# Reitz Family Geneology (Kenneth Robert Reitz) - Philemon WHALE III b. 11/27/1625 d. 12/23/1625

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# Philemon WHALE III b. 11/27/1625 d. 12/23/16251

# Philemon WHALE III b. 11/27/1625 d. 12/23/16251 - Pedigree

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Philemon WHALE II2 1599-1675 Chickney, Essex, England |  | (unknown image type)

Philemon WHALE I 1564-1620

Edward FROST3 1561-1616 Glemsford, Suffolk, England |  | (unknown image type)

John FROST 1540-1609

John BELGRAVE 1535-1591

Elizabeth FROST4 1588-1647 Stanstead, Suffolk, England |  | (unknown image type)

Thomasine BELGRAVE5 1560-1653 Leverington, Fenland District, Cambridgeshire, England |  | (unknown image type)

Joanna STRUTT 1541-1577

Ann SCOTT 1538-1588

Agnes NORWOOD 1561-1626

Philemon WHALE III1 1625-1625 Colchester, Essex, England

## Notes

1. [[Category: Stanstead, Suffolk]] == Biography == {{England Sticker}} {{Died Young}}Philemon Whale was born to Philemon Whale and Elizabeth Frost November 1625, in Stanstead, Suffolk, England. He was christened November 25, 1625, Stanstead, Suffolk, England. He died on December 23, 1625 in Stanstead, Suffolk, England. It is possible that he was christened and buried at [http://www.suffolkchurches.co.uk/stanstead.htm St James]. ==Research Notes== Philemon WHALE - RootsWeb - Ancestry.comhttps://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db...id...Mar 28, 2017 - BIBLIOGRAPHY: Anderson, Robert Charles, The English Origins of Philmon Whale of Sudbury, Massachusetts, in The Genealogist, vol 6 no 2, Fall 1985, pp131-41. Banks, Charled Edward, Topographical Dictionary of 2885 English Emigrants to New England 1620-1650, Philadelphia, PA: Elijah Ellsworth ... == Sources == <references />*[https://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=wtm&id=I17102 Birth, Christening, Death] Ref: Anderson WHALE p138
2. {{Puritan Great Migration}} == Biography == Philemon Whale was a weaver.<ref name=Hunt>John G. Hunt, "Ancestry ofPhilemon Whale," in 'The New England Historical and Genealogical Register, Vol 114 (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1960): 155, citing Parish Registers of Chickney, Essex, England: "Baptized: 1599--27 May, Philemon, son of Philemon Whale." [http://www.americanancestors.org/databases/new-england-historical-and-genealogical-register/image/?pageName=155&volumeId=11737&filterQuery=databasename:New%20England%20Historical link]</ref> He was christened 27 May 1599 in Chickney, Essex, England.<ref name=Hunt/> He was the son of Cleric Philmon Wale of Chickney and possibly his wife Agnes or Ann Norwood.<ref name=Hunt/> He was named along with his siblings Jonas, Henry, Mary andElizabeth in the will of his uncle John Whale dated March 21, 1609 proved May 4 1609.<ref>"The will of John Whale nowe in the parish of St. Mary, Towne of Colchester, County of Essex" in The New England Historical and Genealogical Register, Vol 63 (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society): 35 [http://www.americanancestors.org/databases/new-england-historical-and-genealogical-register/image/?pageName=35&volumeId=11606&rId=242354918 link]</ref><ref name=DawesGatesWhale/> His father's will dated 4 Apr 1618 probated 19 May 1620 names his wifeAgnes and two sons: Jonas and Philemon.<ref name=Hunt/> He was made afreeman on 10 May 1648 (C. R., Vol. II. p. 202) and purchased land inSudbury before 1643.<ref name=DawesGatesWhale/> Agnes named in his father's will, relict of Philemon Whale, cleric, may have been Anne Norwood who Philemon Whale married 4 Sept. 1587, according to the parish registers of Great Canfield, Essex.('NEHGR 114:155 citing Col. Banks’MSS in the Library Congress; The Register, vol 53, p. 303).<ref name=Hunt/> Philemon Whale has been the subject of exhaustive research. Unfortunately older erroneous legacy publications have been the source of confusion. However, his story helps us elucidate and identify many early connections in Sudbury. We know now he married three times.<ref name=DawesGatesWhale>Mary Walton Ferris, "Whale" in Dawes-Gates Ancestral Lines, A memorial volume: The American ancestry of Rufus R.Dawes, Vol 1 (Wisconsin: Cuneo Press, 1931-43): 660 -- 665 [http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/005730222 link]</ref><ref name=DawesGatesWright>Mary Walton, "Wright" in Ferris, Dawes-Gates Ancestral Lines, A memorial volume: The American ancestry of RufusR. Dawes, Vol 1 (Wisconsin: Cuneo Press, 1931-43) p 678 -- 686 [http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/005730222 link]</ref><ref name=DawesGatesMoore>Mary Walton Ferris, "Moore" in Dawes-Gates Ancestral Lines, A memorial volume: The American ancestry of Rufus R.Dawes, Vol 1 (Wisconsin: Cuneo Press, 1931-43) p 446 - 450 [http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/005730222 link]</ref><ref name=TAG66>John Plummer, "The English Origin of John1 Moore of Sudbury, Massachusetts," The American Genealogist Vol 66 (New Haven, Conn.: D.L. Jacobus, Jan 1991): 75-77 [http://www.americanancestors.org/databases/american-genealogist-the/image/?pageName=75&volumeId=12961&filterQuery=BROWSE link]</ref><ref name=TG6>Robert Charles Anderson, ""The English Origins of Philemon Whale of Sudbury, Massachusetts," The Genealogist Vol 6 (1985): 131-4</ref> He married first to Elizabeth (Frost) Rice the daughter of Edward Front and Thomasine Belgrave on 24 Jan 1621 in Chickney, Essex,England.<ref name=TAG66/> She was the widow of Henry Rice of Subury.<ref name=TAG66/> <ref name=DawesGatesWhale/><ref name=DawesGatesMoore/> Philemon Whale adopted Elizabeth Rice thebiological of daughter of Elizabeth (Front) Rice and the late Henry Rice. <ref name=TAG66/><ref name=TG6/> Philemon' stepdaughter, Elizabeth Rice, changed her name to Elizabeth Whale before she married to John Moore of Sudbury. <ref name=TAG66/><ref name=TG6/> (Note previous genealogies had assumed Elizabeth Whale was Philemon Whale's biological daughter). After his first wife died in 20 JUN 1647 in Sudbury, Philemon Whale married second to Sara (unknown) the widow of Thomas Cakebread on 7 Nov1649 in in Sudbury.<ref name=DawesGatesWhale/> She was the mother of Mary Cakebred who married Ensign John Grout.<ref name=DawesGatesWhale/> Mary Cakebred and Ensign John Grout had a son John Grout who marriedRebecca Toll. After the death of Thomas Cakebread Ensign John Grout is recorded as being in possession of eight parcels of land in Watertown, seven of which had been owned previously by Thomas Cakebread and after John Grout moved to Sudbury he took over the operation of the millthat Thomas Cakebread had built.<ref name=DawesGatesWhale/> In 1670 court records Ensign John Grout called the late Thomas Cakebread his father-in-law. These items together prove Ensign John Grout's first wifeMary was the daughter of Thomas and Sara Cakebread.<ref name=DawesGatesWhale/> Sara died on 28 DEC 1656 in Sudbury and Philemon Whale married a third and final time to Elizabeth (Uknown) Griffen on 9 Nov 1657 in Sudbury ("WHALE, Philemon and Elizabeth Griftine, Nov. 9, 1657. MR Subury marriages p 282)").<ref name=DawesGatesWhale/><ref name=Upton>Mary Walton, "Upton" in Ferris, Dawes-Gates AncestralLines, A memorial volume: The American ancestry of Rufus R. Dawes, Vol 1 (Wisconsin: Cuneo Press, 1931-43) p 639 -- 641 [http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/005730222 link]</ref><ref name=SudburyMR>Sudbury, Middlesex, Massachusetts, United States.Vital Records of Sudbury, Massachusetts, to the Year 1850. (Boston, Massachusetts: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1903)</ref> Elizabeth (Uknown) Griffen had married first to an unknown man named Upson with whom she had a daughter Hannah Upson (1638 - 1708) who married Edward Wright (1634-1703) on 18 Jun 1659 in Sudbury. <ref name=SudburyMR/><ref name=Upton/> Many unsuccessful attempts have been made to identify her first husband. As widow Elizabeth (Unknown) Upson she married second to Hugh Griffin of Sudbury on before Feb 1637 and they had four more children: Abigail, Sarah, Shemuel and Jonathan.<ref name=SudburyMR/> He died on 21 Jun 1656 or 27 Jun 1656<ref>"Sudbury Records," The New England Historical and Genealogical Register Vol 17 (Feb 1863): 254</ref><ref name=SudburyMR/> (Researchers should take care not to conflate this couple of Sudbury and their children with Humphrey Griffin who married Elizabeth Andrews in Ipswich whose will was probated in 19 Nov 1661). Elizabeth (Unknown) Griffin married a third time to Philemon Whale after the death of Hugh Griffin as Philemon's final wife. <ref name=DawesGatesWhale/> <ref name=Upton/> <ref name=SudburyMR/> He died in Sudbury 24 Feb 1675.<ref name=Sudbury /> Philemon Whale's will was signed on January 19, 1675 in Sudbury and an inventory of hisestate was taken on March 28, 1676, showing a valuation of over £87.<ref name=DawesGatesWhale/> He left his entire estate to his third wife Elizabeth and after her death "unto ye foure sonnes of my loveing daughter ELIZABETH Moores, vizt. William, Jacob, Joseph and BENJAMIN equally to be divided amongst them." (Dawes-Gates citing PCC wills, reg. Soames, 1620)<ref name=DawesGatesWhale/> He was clearly referring to his adopted daughter Elizabeth Rice (1612-1690) who was now the widow of John Moore (1602-1673) and also to their four sons.<ref name=DawesGatesWhale/><ref name=DawesGatesWhale/> These probate records make it clear that Philemon Whale, Weaver of Sudbury had no biological children of his own and no record of such has been found. His third wife survived him and two months after Philemon Whale's death on 21 Apr 1676, Sudbury was attached by 500 - 1,000 of King Phillip's soldiers. His widowreported a loss of £24 by fire or by plunder but survived the ordeal.<ref name=DawesGatesWhale/> She died 8 NOV 1688 in Sudbury.<ref name=DawesGatesWhale/><ref name=Upton/> == Father's Will == Will of Philemon Whale, Clerk of Chickney, Essex Reference: PROB 11/135/551 Description: Will of Philemon Whale, Clerk of Chickney, Essex Date [proved]: 19 May 1620 Held by: The National Archives, Kew Legal status: Public Record Philemon Whale of Chickney, co. Essex, clk. (Dat. 4 Apr 1618.) Bur. in chan. or chyd. of Chickney; eld. son Jonas Whale; books, Wilcockes upon the Psalms and Ursinns, his Cathechisme; youngest son Philemon Whale; eld. dau. Sara Ingreeme; dau. Margt., wife of Wm. Brocke, the yr.,of Shepreth; dau Eliz., wife of Wm Cofeild of Henham; youngest dau. Mary Whale; Extx: wife Agnes; eld. bro. John Whale, decd.; Eliz Ingreeme (und. 19), dau. of dau. Sara. [Philemon Whale] Wits: Bartholmewe Collin, Laurence Collin. (Pr. 19 May 1620.) <ref>Abstracts of Wills in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury at Somerset House, London, England,edited by J. Henry Lea (Boston, MA: New England Historic GenealogicalSociety, 1904) p 208 [http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk: link]</ref> Name: Philemon WHALE or WHALEY College: ST JOHN'S Entered: Michs. 1565More Information: Matric. pens. from ST JOHN'S, Michs. 1565. Ord. deacon (Peterb.) June 28; priest, Sept. 23, 1575. R. of Chickney, Essex, 1578-1620. Buried Mar. 23, 1619-20. Will proved (P.C.C.) May 19, 1620.Father of Jonas (1597-8).<ref>Cambridge University Alumni, 1261-1900 [database online], Provo, UT: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 1999:</ref> == Sudbury Vital Records == Sudbury Marriages WHALE, Philemon and Sarath Cakebread, Nov. 7, 1649. MR (p. 282) WHALE, Philemon and Elizabeth Griftine, Nov. 9, 1657. MR (p. 282) Sudbury Deaths WHALE, Elizabeth, w. Phelemon, June 20, 1647. (p. 329) WHALE, Sarah, w. Phelimon Whall, Dec. [torn], 165[torn]. [w. Philemon, Dec. 28, 1656. MR](p. 329) WHALEY, (see Whale, Whall), Philemon, Feb. 24, 1675. MR (p. 329) WHALL, Elizabeth, Nov. 8, 1688. MR (p. 329) <ref name=Sudbury>Vital Records of Sudbury Massachusetts to the Year 1850, NEHGS, Boston, 1903</ref> == Parish Records from NEHGR 114:155 == Baptisms 1599-27 May, Philemon, son of Philemon Whale 1593-31 Jan., Elizabeth, dau of Philemon Whale 1610-30 Oct. – Philemon, son of Jonas Whale and Frances Whale Burials: 1603–John, son of Philemon Whale 1616–Henry son of ” ” 23 Mar. 1619 — Philemon Whale 25 Apr. 1621 — Jonas Whale Philemon Whale Torrey & Supplements has Philemon marrying three times: == Torrey == Whale, Philemon (-1676) & 1/wf Elizabeth ____, (-1647) ca 1619?, ca 1615; Sudbury Whale, Philemon (-1676) & 2/wf Sara (?) Cakebread, w. Thomas; 7 Nov 1649; Sudbury (Also found p. 282 Sudbury VR) Whale, Philemon (-1676) & 3/wf Elizabeth (Upson) Griffine (-1688) w Hugh; 9 Nov 1657; Sudbury. (Also found p. 282 Sudbury VR) (1st Supplement) 1/wf Elizabeth FROST Rice (c 1585-1647) w of Henry; m. 24 Jan 1621/2 St Mary’s Bury St Edmonds, co Suffolk/Sudbury [TG 6:131]. == Sources == <references /> See also:# James Flint, comp., Index to the Probate Records of the County of Middlesex County, Massachusetts, 1648-1870; Cambridge, MA, USA: 1912. # ''Brewer Genealogy'' # ''New England Family History''# ''The New England historical and genealogical register, Volume 17,'' By New England Historic Genealogical Society, pg 171, 254, 312 [[Space:NEHGS|attached.]]# [http://mayflowerfamilies.com/?page_id=538 This link is a bit confusing but has good sources - read the biography above first]# <span id='VRSM'></span>''[[Space:Vital Records of Sudbury Massachusetts to the Year 1850|Vital Records of Sudbury Massachusetts to the Year 1850]]'' (NEHGS, Boston, Mass., 1903) [https://archive.org/stream/vitalrecordsofsu00sudb#page/282/mode/1up Page 282] <!-- Please edit, add, or delete anything in this text, including this note. 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3. [[Category: St James Churchyard, Nayland, Suffolk]] {{Puritan Great Migration Adjunct}}:''Due to controversies about his origins and relationships, and thathe is father of multiple Great Migration-era immigrants, his profile is being tracked and protected by the Puritan Great Migration project.'' == Biography ==Edward Frost<ref name="Hunt">Hunt, Bessie B., "Ancestors & Descendants of Jonathan Burris" Sun Printing</ref> '''Edward Frost''':'''Baptized:''' 13 March 1560/61 at Glemsford, Suffolk, England<ref name="Thre">Threlfall, John B., ''Fifty Great Migration Colonists of New England and Their Origins'', Madison, Wisconsin: Privately Printed,1990 (reprinted at Bowie, Maryland: Heritage Books, 1992).</ref>:'''Married:''' 1585 at Glemsford, to Thomasine Belgrave<ref name="Thre"/> :'''Occupation:''' clothier<ref name="Thre"/>:'''Residence:''' removed c. 1588-9 to Stanstead (the next town to the northeast)<ref name="Thre"/>:'''Buried:''' 3 August 1616 at Stanstead (wife surviving him)<ref name="Thre"/> May be buried at St. James Church, Standstead.<ref>[http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=116093760 Find-a-Grave entry for Edward Frost], no citations provided; use with caution.</ref> === Origin ===Edward was baptized 13 Mar 1560, Glemsford, England<ref name="Hol">Holman, Mary L., "English Notes on Edmund Rice" in ''The American Genealogist,'' volume 10, pp 134-35 [https://www.americanancestors.org/DB283/i/11841/135/23568281 Link at AmericanAncestors ($)]</ref> He was a son of [[Frost-62|John Frost]] and [[Scott-243|Ann Scott]].{{Citation Needed}} === Family ===Edward married on 26 September 1585 [or on 26 July 1585, on p. 91] atGlemsford, Suffolk, England to Thomasine Belgrave, daughter of John and Joanna (Strutt) Belgrave. She was baptized 1 February 1561/2 at Leverington in Cambridgeshire.<ref name="Thre"/> Children (after about 1588-9, children baptized at Stanstead)<ref name="Hol"/>:# Anne (Died as Infant) (bp. 28 Nov 1586-bur. 27 Dec 1586) in Glemsford# Elizabeth (bp. 24 Mar 1587/8 Glemstead) m. Henry Rice, Stanstead, in Nov 1605; apparently m. (2) St. Mary's Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, 24Jan 1621/2 Philemon Whale # William (bp. 3 Aug 1589-) # Ann (bp. 3 Dec 1592-), m Laurence Collen # Alice (bp. 1 Dec 1594-), m Thomas Blower # Mary (bp. 21 Sep 1596- bur. 23 Nov 1596)# Thomasine (bp. 11 Aug 1600-1654), may have married the Immigrant Edmund Rice after her father's 1616 death, when she is still single. # Edward Frost bpt 11 Nov 1605 # Mary bpt 21 Jan 1607 # John Bpt 20 Jan 1609# Thomas (bp 30 April 1615: bur 23 June 1615)<ref>TAG 61:166, citing parish records</ref># Thomas (bp 21 April 1616; not mentioned in father's will)<ref>TAG 61:166, citing parish records</ref> === Will === Edward Frost of Stanstead, co. Suffolk, clothier, will dated 26 July 1616, proved 4 October 1616. I make bequests to Thomasine my wife, William Frost my son; my five daughters, Elizabeth, now the wife of HenryRice; Anne now the wife of Laurence Collen; Alice, wife of Thomas Blower, Mary Frost and Thomasine Frost; and to Edward Rice, son of my daughter Elizabeth Reice. Executrix, my wife Thomasine. Witnesses, Ambrose Bigges, senor & Ambrose Bigges, junior. (PCC 129 Cope.)<ref name="Hol"/> === Death and Legacy ===Edward was buried 3 Aug 1616 Stanstead, Suffolk, England<ref name="Hol"/> His wife survived him.<ref name="Hol"/> == Notes ==[http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=d274d9da-952a-45ba-9456-ed7f8b551b80&tid=24279608&pid=1760718113 Frost Coat of Arms] (Warning: these arms may have no tie with Edward Frost the individual) == Sources == <references /> See also:* [http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=116093760 Find-a-Grave Entry for Edward Frost] * Rice Gen'l Register, p. 1.* Harold F. Jr Porter, "The Strutt Ancestry of Thomasine Frost", ''The American Genealogist,'' vol 61 (1986), p. 165-166. [https://www.americanancestors.org/DB283/i/12790/166/0 Link at AmericanAncestors ($)]* Harold F. Jr Potter, "The Paternal Ancestry of Thomasine Frost", pp. 134, 135; 164-165 See the changes page for the details of contributions and edits. <!-- Please edit, add, or delete anything in this text, including this note. Be bold and experiment! If you make a mistake you can always see the previous version of the text on the Changes page. -->
4. {{Puritan Great Migration}} == Biography == Elizabeth Frost, daughter of Edward Frost, was baptized in Glemsford,Suffolk, England on 24 March 1587/8.<ref>"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N5Y4-BXB : 30 December 2014, Elizabetha Frost, 24 Mar 1587); citing GLEMSFORD,SUFFOLK,ENGLAND, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 950,452.</ref> That Elizabeth Frost who married Henry Rice was daughter of Edward Frost and Thomasine Belgrave is claimed in "Ancestry of Thomasine (Frost) Rice," in ''The American Genealogist,'' 63:134::"Edward [Frost] bp. 13 March 1560/1... m. Glemsford 26 July 1585 THOMASINE BELGRAVE... Edward and Thomasine were the parents of the immigrants Elizabeth Frost (bp. Stanstead 24 March 1587[/8]), who m. (1) Henry Rice and (2) Philemon Whale, later of sudbury, Mass.;..." This is apparently also discussed further in Robert Charles Anderson,"The English Origins of Philemon Whale of Sudbury, Massachusetts," in''The Genealogist,'' 6(1985):131-141. Died 20 Jun 1647 Sudbury, Middlesex, Massachusetts?{{citation needed}}:There was an "Elizabeth, w. of [[Whale-11|Philemon Whale]]" who diedin Sudbury on this date.<ref>[http://ma-vitalrecords.org/MA/Middlesex/Sudbury/Images/Sudbury_D329.gif Sudbury Vital Records to 1850], Deaths, p 329</ref> But how do we know her origins? Here's what Anderson says:<ref>''Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to N.E. 1620-1633, Vols. I-III,'' p 206 (Profile for Richard Brackett)</ref>:"Alice Frost, was sister of... Elizabeth Frost, who married first Henry Rice and then Philemon Whale, the latter also an immigrant to Sudbury [TAG 15:227, 26:10-11; TG 6:131-41; Stevens-Miller Anc 143-144]." But WHICH Henry Rice?:"Philemon Whale, who married Henry Rice's widow ("The English Origins of Philemon Whale of Sudbury, Massachusetts," ''The Genealogist,'' [TG] 6[1985]:131-41). '''Henry Rice is believed to be a brother of Edmund Rice of Sudbury,''' from whom John Moore purchased land in 1642."<ref>John Plummer, "The English Origins of John1 Moore of Sudbury, Massachusetts," in ''The American Genealogist,'' 66:75</ref> == Sources == <references /> <!-- Please edit, add, or delete anything in this text, including this note. Be bold and experiment! If you make a mistake you can always see the previous version of the text on the Changes page. -->
5. [[Category: St James Churchyard, Nayland, Suffolk]] == Biography ==Thomasine Belgrave was baptized 1 Feb 1562, Leverington, Cambridgeshire, England.<ref>Harold F. Porter, Jr., ''The Strutt Ancestry of Thomasine Frost wife of Edmund Frost of Sudbury, Mass.,'' TAG 61:161-166, p. 165, available at [https://www.americanancestors.org/DB283/rd/12790/165/144276924 americanancestors.org]</ref> :'''NOTE:''' she should not be confused with the Thomasine Clench (wife of immigrant Edmund -- not Edward -- Frost) who died 13 June 1653, Sudbury, Middlesex, Massachusetts. Thomasine Belgrave married Edward Frost 26 sep 1585 in Glemsford, Suffolk, England.<ref>Name Edrus. Frost Spouse's Name Thomasina Belgrave Event Date 26 Sep 1585 Event Place Glemsford,Suffolk,England Citing this Record"England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NLMX-56Y : 10 February 2018), Edrus. Frost and Thomasina Belgrave, 26 Sep 1585; citing Glemsford,Suffolk,England, reference , index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 950,452.</ref> They had the following children: # Anne (Died as Infant) (bp. 1586-) # Elizabeth (bp. 1588-) m. Henry Rice # William (bp. 1589-) # Ann (bp. 1592-), m Laurence Collen # Alice (bp. 1594-), m Thomas Blower # Mary (bp. 1596-) # Mary (~1598-)# Thomasine (bp. 1600-1654), may have married the Immigrant Edmund Rice after her father's 1616 death, when she is still single.# Thomas (bp 1615: bur 1615)<ref>TAG 61:166, citing parish records</ref># Thomas (bp 1616; not mentioned in father's will)<ref>TAG 61:166, citing parish records</ref> Thomasine Belgrave Frost was still alive 26 jul 1616, when husband Edward wrote his will. == Sources == <references /> See also:# [http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Frost&GSfn=Thomasine&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=116093904&df=all& Find-a-Grave entry for Thomasine Belgrave Frost] # Rice Gen'l Register, p. 1. # Harold F. Porter, Jr., "The Strutt-Biggs Relationships", page?# Harold F. Porter,, Jr., "The Strutt Ancestry of Thomasine Frost", in ''The American Genealogist'', vol, 61 (1968), pp. 161-166.# Harold F. Porter, Jr., "The Paternal Ancestry of Thomasine Frost", in ''The American Genalogist'', vol. 63 (1988), pp. 129-37, 164-165.# Mary Lovering Holman, "Notes on Edmund Rice", in ''The American Genealogist,'' Volume 10, p. 135.# Bessie Burris Hunt, ''Ancestors & Descendants of Jonathan Burris,''Sun Printing