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[{"user_id": 29952, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21273, "date_created": 1303759452.262475, "message": "@ericflo It depends on what your definition of \"is\" is", "group_id": 1295, "id": 806344}, {"user_id": 29952, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21273, "date_created": 1303759591.9394679, "message": "Tracking is such a loaded term. From a business perspective, that means there's some central intelligence pulling all the locations together to create an overall record of activity for analysis. You know, like an ad network might. :)", "group_id": 1295, "id": 806362}, {"user_id": 29952, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21273, "date_created": 1303759265.4720559, "message": "Q: Steve,\n\nCould you please explain the necessity of the passive location-tracking tool embedded in my iPhone? It's kind of unnerving knowing that my exact location is being recorded at all times. Maybe you could shed some light on this for me before I switch to a Droid. They don't track me.\n\nA: Oh yes they do. We don't track anyone. The info circulating around is false. \n\nSent from my iPhone", "group_id": 1295, "id": 806311}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21273, "date_created": 1303759406.138571, "message": "Yeah...not really sure how he thinks that's a true statement.", "group_id": 1295, "id": 806330}, {"user_id": 29952, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21273, "date_created": 1303759426.9301181, "message": "A.k.a: \"Could you please {validate my perception of what your product is doing}?\"", "group_id": 1295, "id": 806335}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21273, "date_created": 1303759497.3981071, "message": "@noahmittman Yeah, true, I mean there are ways you could interpret the statement that make it true, but the obvious straightforward ways of reading it seem false IMO.", "group_id": 1295, "id": 806351}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21273, "date_created": 1303759731.2966461, "message": "Very true.", "group_id": 1295, "id": 806382}, {"user_id": 4149, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21273, "date_created": 1303759815.465467, "message": "as a developer i can see why they save the location to a file just for quicker access for, but i have nothing to hide let them track me, they see how boring my life is, go to school, go home, go to girlfriends house that is about it LOL but i think google is actually making databases from the information that is a little shady i which that was open a little more", "group_id": 1295, "id": 806386}, {"user_id": 29952, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21273, "date_created": 1303759854.5730519, "message": "There's definitely a need to create better understanding of how we leave these tracks, that's for sure.", "group_id": 1295, "id": 806393}, {"user_id": 29952, "stars": [{"date_created": 1303772866.8913119, "user_id": 141}], "topic_id": 21273, "date_created": 1303760056.1244941, "message": "I wish there was an ESRB-like stamp that gave you high-level descriptions of what data trail you'll create by using a product", "group_id": 1295, "id": 806420}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21273, "date_created": 1303760107.667655, "message": "@noahmittman I think that's what Google is kind of trying to do with their approval stuff when you install an app...they say up-front what data it'll access.", "group_id": 1295, "id": 806422}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21273, "date_created": 1303760118.315598, "message": "That being said, it could be a lot better.", "group_id": 1295, "id": 806423}, {"user_id": 25705, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21273, "date_created": 1303771621.2219391, "message": "Regardless of the outcome, this illustrates how end user agreements need to be completely reformed. No more legal babble, just make it clear what the user is giving, and what the provider is taking.", "group_id": 1295, "id": 808059}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21273, "date_created": 1303771846.40081, "message": "@geekwhisperer Couldn't agree more.", "group_id": 1295, "id": 808080}, {"user_id": 12346, "stars": [{"date_created": 1303783740.0235541, "user_id": 4149}], "topic_id": 21273, "date_created": 1303783107.074223, "message": "LOL! Switching to a Droid because of tracking? How ironic is that? iPhone saves your location data, but Android saves it and sends it to Google, unlike Apple does, who only saves it.", "group_id": 1295, "id": 808994}, {"user_id": 29952, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21273, "date_created": 1303787832.7478199, "message": "respond. (dang iPhone send key)", "group_id": 1295, "id": 809677}, {"user_id": 29952, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21273, "date_created": 1303787806.0549009, "message": "Yeah, that was an unnecessary empty threat at the end. But ironically enough that's what seemed to have moved Jobs to", "group_id": 1295, "id": 809674}, {"user_id": 4149, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21273, "date_created": 1303788242.8288541, "message": "not only is google getting the data but they are building databases which will be public at some point js", "group_id": 1295, "id": 809721}, {"user_id": 9932, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21273, "date_created": 1303802053.290905, "message": "@apfeljonas iPhone only saves it you think?! Oh poor guy... iPhone also sends information about GPS-position, next cell tower and all WiFis around you to Apple that they can have their own database for locating on all three ways. And Apple began with first iPhone so much longer than Google now.", "group_id": 1295, "id": 811343}, {"user_id": 30354, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21273, "date_created": 1303832722.8647289, "message": "\"Apple claimed in its letter last year that the geodata is stored on the device, then anonymized and transmitted back to Apple every 12 hours, using a secure Wi-Fi connection.\" http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/04/iphone-location-opt-out/", "group_id": 1295, "id": 815795}, {"user_id": 30354, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21273, "date_created": 1303832850.918195, "message": "Not sure about Android anonymising stuff; though.", "group_id": 1295, "id": 815817}, {"user_id": 30354, "stars": [{"date_created": 1303836551.0609901, "user_id": 9932}], "topic_id": 21273, "date_created": 1303832826.485167, "message": "Who cares that it's sending anonymous data back. It helps the companies build better products. Google use location tracking to see how fast traffic is moving, they can use that for maps etc. Apple doesn't have your location, they have _a_ location where there's an iPhone, and it's not tied to your device. So who cares?", "group_id": 1295, "id": 815815}, {"user_id": 9932, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21273, "date_created": 1303836675.344142, "message": "@Lloyd Of course Android/Google is anonymising too - only facebook is connecting everything to real persons, also when not a facebook-user or when you are logged out (and the cookie is actual)", "group_id": 1295, "id": 816507}, {"user_id": 18485, "stars": [{"date_created": 1303851183.913604, "user_id": 9932}], "topic_id": 21273, "date_created": 1303839787.2081029, "message": "if people want to be anonymous don't use a cell phone and don't go on the Internet.", "group_id": 1295, "id": 817025}, {"user_id": 12346, "stars": [], "topic_id": 21273, "date_created": 1303914638.991318, "message": "Your device willsave it either way, but you can opt in to sending it to apple when you first sync it with itunes.", "group_id": 1295, "id": 826505}]