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[{"user_id": 2493, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304364717.073235, "message": "Qu'est-ce que vous pensez de phonegap ou appcelerator comme remplacement \u00e0 cocoa? Trop slow?", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888094}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304364947.710037, "message": "tant que tu frappes pas un mur dans l'implantation de leur SDK, tu es golden", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888184}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304364916.674665, "message": "par contre, \u00e0 l'\u00e9poque ils faisaient beaucoup de manipulation HTML dans un UIWebView (wrapper webkit) pour simuler des trucs natif", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888168}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304364927.3239551, "message": "effectivement", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888173}, {"user_id": 775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304364854.2106619, "message": "\u00e0 part la vitesse, quels sont les drawbacks? ces frameworks utilisent les contr\u00f4les UI natifs de iOS ou fournissent les leurs?", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888149}, {"user_id": 775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304364911.8271079, "message": "ok cool \u2014 donc tout ce que \u00e7a fait c'est comme \u00e9crire du code \u00e0 ta place? \u00e7a fait juste acc\u00e9l\u00e9rer le dev?", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888167}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304364785.245038, "message": "Je ne suis pas un tr\u00e8s grand fan des framework d'abstraction, alors c'est assez difficile de dire que je l'utiliserais", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888117}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304364874.4614611, "message": "je vais parler pour ce que je connais: Natif sur iOS", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888158}, {"user_id": 32006, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365729.951957, "message": "Tu peu prototyper ton app rapidement et ensuite coder en obj-c les parties que tu trouves pas assez optimis\u00e9es", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888400}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304364747.851764, "message": "Phone Gap jamais utilis\u00e9, pour Titanium (Appcelerator) je l'ai utilis\u00e9 \u00e7a fait maintenant plus d'un an, d\u00e9j\u00e0 \u00e0 l'\u00e9poque c'\u00e9tait bien", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888100}, {"user_id": 775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304364867.794791, "message": "(noob iOS ici)", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888155}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304364995.881784, "message": "impl\u00e9mentation de leur SDK", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888196}, {"user_id": 775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365307.651926, "message": "Corona?", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888282}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366124.894978, "message": "tu m'appelleras ce jour l\u00e0", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888503}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366501.4708371, "message": "pis la batterie est drainer", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888625}, {"user_id": 32006, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365492.6725039, "message": "iz", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888327}, {"user_id": 775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365216.4855759, "message": "c\u2019est la m\u00eame chose pour les apps b\u00e2ties en flash et \"compil\u00e9es\" en app iOS?", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888260}, {"user_id": 32006, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365672.863651, "message": "T'as toujours une porte de sortie si tu te p\u00e8te le nez sur les limites du sdk", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888376}, {"user_id": 32006, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366132.0175769, "message": "Attends pas mon appel ;)", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888505}, {"user_id": 2493, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365147.7864039, "message": "C'est int\u00e9ressant d'abord si c'est compil\u00e9 en cocoa natif.", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888233}, {"user_id": 32006, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365515.0507791, "message": "C'est sur j'allais prendre le bait", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888339}, {"user_id": 32006, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366089.552691, "message": "Je vais trouver une solution magique un jour", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888489}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365274.9155519, "message": "flash, tu veux dire Corona?", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888275}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366236.786777, "message": "Side note: Nouveau github bug tracking est awesome.", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888535}, {"user_id": 32006, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365797.7805631, "message": "Si je faisais une app je le prendrais for sure", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888418}, {"user_id": 32006, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365963.1952789, "message": "http://impactjs.com/", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888449}, {"user_id": 775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365347.9292159, "message": "https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Corona_(software_development_kit) ?", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888292}, {"user_id": 775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365385.4332349, "message": "je pensais que c\u2019\u00e9tait une feature built-in de Flash CS-something\u2026 de pouvoir builder ton projet en app native iOS?", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888298}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365455.6967349, "message": "@remi scuse oui je parlais de ce SDK l\u00e0, pour le Flash CS-* \u00e7a me dit vaguement quelque chose, mais je suis pas certain. si c'est compiler en objective-C, fort probablement c'est l\u00e0 m\u00eame chose que Titanium", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888316}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365485.5736949, "message": "@jeedee Hahaha!", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888324}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365514.1847489, "message": "@remi pourquoi", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888338}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365550.849932, "message": "haha", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888348}, {"user_id": 32006, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365550.8843739, "message": "\u00c7a compile Android aussi :)", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888349}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365551.19823, "message": "@remi oh, je voyais que la bi\u00e8re moi dans tout \u00e7a..", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888350}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366057.537739, "message": "@jeedee c'est-tu quelque chose que tu vas utiliser? ou tu stick avec obj-c", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888475}, {"user_id": 32006, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366079.800163, "message": "Pour l'instant mes trucs c'est pas mal un shit sandwich", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888484}, {"user_id": 32006, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365474.988121, "message": "Corona c'est fait par des v\u00e9t\u00e9rans de Flash (Carlos Icaza) et sa compile natif apr\u00e8s avoir converti le layer LUA", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888323}, {"user_id": 775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365496.2269671, "message": "Corona, c\u2019est clever comme nom.", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888330}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365506.626919, "message": "Quand j'ai lu \u00e7a, je me suis dit, \u00e7a la du @jeedee style", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888333}, {"user_id": 775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365528.159826, "message": "Cocoa\u2026 Corona\u2026", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888342}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365697.977248, "message": "@jeedee alors probablement que ce serait mon choix principal, mais je suis biais\u00e9, je code obj-c", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888386}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366298.349159, "message": "j'avais pas vu, merde.", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888557}, {"user_id": 32006, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365853.629055, "message": "Et c'est en javascript alors c'est assez straightforward", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888426}, {"user_id": 32006, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365984.6840799, "message": "Ouais sont engine s'envient bien", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888457}, {"user_id": 32006, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365995.837791, "message": "Ya un wrapper sur iOs", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888461}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365608.9062891, "message": "Dans tous les cas possible, si on choisi titanium, corona, flash, obj-c \u00e7a revient toujours \u00e0 la m\u00eame chose: Ce sp\u00e9cialiser dans un SDK pr\u00e9cis", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888357}, {"user_id": 32006, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365659.413095, "message": "Titanium est le seul de la gagne qui \u00e0 l'avantage d'\u00eatre extensible via Obj-C", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888369}, {"user_id": 775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365695.6415751, "message": "cool", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888385}, {"user_id": 775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365742.7608869, "message": "@jeedee est-ce que titanium tu l\u2019utilises pour des trucs persos ou m\u00eame chez molecube tu t\u2019en sers?", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888404}, {"user_id": 32006, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365785.53392, "message": "Jadis je m'en servais mais je fais plus ben ben d'app. J'ai utilis\u00e9 la 0.8 qui g\u00e9n\u00e9rait des webviews et qui \u00e9tait dogslow mais ensuite avec la 0.9 c'\u00e9tait compil\u00e9 natif alors c'\u00e9tait #1", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888413}, {"user_id": 775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365872.9136069, "message": "ok", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888430}, {"user_id": 32006, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365990.4543841, "message": "son*", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888460}, {"user_id": 2493, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366279.5268929, "message": "juste pour toi.", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888549}, {"user_id": 2493, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365929.4291019, "message": "merci de ces \u00e9claircissements", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888441}, {"user_id": 775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365937.0582781, "message": "il y a quand m\u00eame des frameworks de jeux en JS pour iOS, non?", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888443}, {"user_id": 32006, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365952.014246, "message": "Il y a impact maintenant", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888446}, {"user_id": 775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365941.822401, "message": "m'semble j'ai vu \u00e7a la semaine pass\u00e9", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888445}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366310.1991091, "message": "Qui srait partant pour faire une app iPad avec moi pour manager les issues de github", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888561}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366623.2756219, "message": "@jeromegn pour faire quoi? des apps mobile web?", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888659}, {"user_id": 32006, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366063.1726029, "message": "Il converti les calls canvas vers opengl bref", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888477}, {"user_id": 2493, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366397.9514251, "message": "@remi je suis tu dans le champ, moi qui te parle de Arrested Development depuis un bout? \u00e7a serait une m\u00e9chante co\u00efncidence que tu utilise autant de jokes de \u00e7a dans tes projets haha", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888586}, {"user_id": 32006, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366435.1865489, "message": "@pothibo amen", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888600}, {"user_id": 775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365964.6907489, "message": "ah ouais exact,", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888450}, {"user_id": 775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365971.9850421, "message": "j'ai jou\u00e9 \u00e0 Drop, c'est cool", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888453}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366113.1436341, "message": "lol", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888499}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366136.0624299, "message": "hahaha", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888507}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304365986.146281, "message": "html5 canvas no?", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888458}, {"user_id": 32006, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366010.683269, "message": "http://www.phoboslab.org/log/2011/04/ios-and-javascript-for-real-this-time", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888469}, {"user_id": 2493, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366598.5699589, "message": "@pothibo c'est juste une question de temps avant que je cr\u00e9e un layer par dessus Backbone.js pour le mobile (en fait j'ai \u00e9t\u00e9 lazy, j'attends Cinco de 37signals, je pense qui veulent faire la m\u00eame affaire)", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888652}, {"user_id": 32006, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366159.5880129, "message": "Sinon Corona c'est pas mal awesome mais il manque encore des trucs... je bug Carlos pour qu'il ouvre la possibilit\u00e9 d'avoir des modules obj-c", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888516}, {"user_id": 32006, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366188.3413661, "message": "Au moins ils font des bons move genre releaser une nightly build ect", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888528}, {"user_id": 2493, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366274.683804, "message": "@pothibo pis ils ont \u00e9t\u00e9 assez fins pour ajouter les milestones \u00e0 leur API", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888547}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366285.841315, "message": "i shit", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888551}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366314.7160759, "message": "je lance l'invitation :D", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888563}, {"user_id": 775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366338.9222369, "message": "BOOYA! http://githubissues.heroku.com/", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888566}, {"user_id": 2493, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366356.1228271, "message": "haha", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888573}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366372.9245811, "message": "c HTML :(", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888578}, {"user_id": 775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366395.501801, "message": "cappuccino", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888584}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366428.243017, "message": "anyhow, cappucino c'est heavy en simonak", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888595}, {"user_id": 2493, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366430.4984601, "message": "h\u00e9 boy, ils ont pas r\u00e9invent\u00e9 la roue! #mail.app", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888596}, {"user_id": 32006, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366375.062819, "message": "Ahh c'est le truc fait en objective-j", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888579}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366377.0175481, "message": "backbone.js?", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888580}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366417.5301809, "message": "ah ouais t'a raison @remi", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888590}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366490.670979, "message": "Fully charged iPad qui run cappucino in idle", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888620}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366466.3680639, "message": "Hoo ah!", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888611}, {"user_id": 775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366434.9786539, "message": "@jeromegn tu serais dans le champ pourquoi?", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888599}, {"user_id": 2493, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366452.3912201, "message": "@remi t'as jamais confirm\u00e9 I guess ;)", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888607}, {"user_id": 32006, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366456.9589789, "message": "Les apps webs qui s'arrange pour avoir l'air d'une app desktop c'est un sin", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888608}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366496.875937, "message": "iPad 1 je lui donne 3 heure de work", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888622}, {"user_id": 775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366512.7574279, "message": "@jeromegn hmm\u2026 je te confirme que j\u2019essaie le plus souvent possible de faire des r\u00e9f\u00e9rences \u00e0 Arrested. *tout le temps* :)", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888632}, {"user_id": 2493, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366538.6484311, "message": "@remi awesome. Je viens de me reclaquer tous les \u00e9pisodes, pis j'ai d\u00e9j\u00e0 envi de recommencer.", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888636}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366678.85218, "message": "javascript + iOs = trouble", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888673}, {"user_id": 2493, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366730.062644, "message": "@pothibo pour le moment j'avoue que c'est pas le gros char... mais ouais id\u00e9alement \u00e7a serait pour faire des apps mobile web. je catch pas comment mes transitions natives webkits peuvent \u00eatre plus saccad\u00e9es que animate() de jquery :@", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888697}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366825.0059409, "message": "@jeromegn heu.. quel genre de transform tu fais?", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888715}, {"user_id": 31997, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304366856.25828, "message": "si tu fais des transform() tu n'utilise pas le GPU, faut t'utilise transform3d()", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888721}, {"user_id": 2493, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33254, "date_created": 1304367223.424531, "message": "@pothibo Ouais je suis au courant :) faudrait probablement que je refasse des tests.", "group_id": 9469, "id": 888787}] |