convore.json/groups/codeconf/project-and-community-management-with-github-andy-lester/messages.json

[{"user_id": 28365, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457302.744478, "message": "@rkarwa We need a \"github\" for users.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611576}, {"user_id": 16, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457471.1787901, "message": "@doolin you can set a wiki to readonly, so that users cant edit it", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611616}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457508.9922349, "message": "and actually sometimes 'brew install' is the instructions for things non-developers need", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611624}, {"user_id": 3906, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457712.80301, "message": "any high-profile or popular project could benefit from a domain. Homebrew is popular enough to qualify", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611649}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457891.3795741, "message": "but I only ever do tools for developer type projects", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611683}, {"user_id": 4416, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457933.2843201, "message": "@mislav I agree, though project pages are kinda wonky", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611693}, {"user_id": 7300, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302458032.6695211, "message": "cause I wanted to get people using hub", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611720}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457353.6120429, "message": "github pages are fine, not enough projects bother to set them up, I bet he would argue", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611586}, {"user_id": 3906, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457363.808316, "message": "http://mxcl.github.com/homebrew/ is a great example of a home page hosted on github", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611591}, {"user_id": 3906, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457370.6007121, "message": "all it really needs is its own domain", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611594}, {"user_id": 28220, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457545.5931909, "message": "@timocratic yep, like that page for homebrew saves me a lot more time compared to projects that just have a readme at the bottom that's full of text that doesn't get me anywhere, with install directions or what have you hidden somewhere in the middle", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611630}, {"user_id": 4290, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302458083.804543, "message": "It wouldn't be so strange if it didn't require a big incantation to setup", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611741}, {"user_id": 4290, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302458377.268786, "message": "@icco indeed! is there an equivalent for your os of choice?", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611804}, {"user_id": 28365, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457392.1435101, "message": "@timocratic I'm going to try the github wiki next, but will be writing the content myself.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611597}, {"user_id": 1899, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457496.828644, "message": "it shows you take your project seriously.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611622}, {"user_id": 28370, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457943.4622531, "message": "Josh Duran?  I went to school with a Josh Duran...", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611696}, {"user_id": 28419, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457886.9628069, "message": "you crazy kids and your open source projects...", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611682}, {"user_id": 16, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457904.882009, "message": "i never do either, but i only do dumb tools for myself", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611687}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302458308.163348, "message": "@adelcambre that's the last straw, I'm installing soloist and chef'ing that up", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611794}, {"user_id": 28432, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457286.6789351, "message": "Good ideas to get \"non-developers\" involved in open source projects", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611573}, {"user_id": 22563, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302458441.4974141, "message": "Well there's apt. But what hub/rvm/gist does is best: curl http://defunkt.io/hub/standalone -sLo ~/bin/hub", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611815}, {"user_id": 28220, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302457478.427552, "user_id": 1899}], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457459.359118, "message": "arguably homebrew is not something that'd be used by someone that would be uncomfortable with github. but i really like that that page tells me upfront about how to get started.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611614}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457357.3425579, "message": "ack", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611588}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457868.3371439, "message": "I never generate one for my projects :/", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611678}, {"user_id": 4416, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457968.5830441, "message": "would have been happier if pages used a special directory instead", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611701}, {"user_id": 3906, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457989.674751, "message": "@tsaleh it's not horrifically uncommon. Git even has a flag these days to help you create those", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611709}, {"user_id": 1899, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457990.8585351, "message": "@mislav, you also have the luxury that you know people will use your stuff no matter how poor your docs are", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611710}, {"user_id": 4290, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302458492.4447961, "message": "@icco yeah, I prefer something allows easy upgrades without having to remember where the url to curl was", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611827}, {"user_id": 3, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302458050.461879, "message": "Yeah it's super useful", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611728}, {"user_id": 22563, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457393.748857, "message": "Which gh thankfully makes easy", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611598}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457484.9322519, "message": "nice pages are helpful even for us developers", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611617}, {"user_id": 16, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302457500.891655, "user_id": 1899}], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457496.162498, "message": "http://gembundler.com/ is a great example too", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611621}, {"user_id": 16, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302457697.5025949, "user_id": 25354}], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457607.5675931, "message": "Basho uses Gollum to generate static pages for their site: http://wiki.basho.com/", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611636}, {"user_id": 7300, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457731.5593109, "message": "agreed. most projects are not high-profile popular", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611656}, {"user_id": 16, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457914.089891, "message": "though Gollum could use a sweet site", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611688}, {"user_id": 28365, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457268.7671349, "message": "This talk is instantly actionable for me.  Definitely want the slides.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611569}, {"user_id": 22563, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457358.6346769, "message": "http://betterthangrep.com/", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611590}, {"user_id": 3, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302458559.1907461, "message": "@icco I got that trick from ack", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611838}, {"user_id": 1295, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302458908.2962091, "message": "@jacobian develop on feature branches, no-ff merge them into master (or staging) as you finish.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611866}, {"user_id": 25354, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457830.088182, "message": "any good gembundler.com -like layouts out there?", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611671}, {"user_id": 16, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457841.8053119, "message": "Comment and Close", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611674}, {"user_id": 4290, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302458141.9357131, "message": "@mislav: brew install hub; alias git='hub'", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611751}, {"user_id": 22563, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302458333.829145, "user_id": 23882}], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302458301.087971, "message": "@adelcambre People also forget that not all of us use macs.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611792}, {"user_id": 3906, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460911.4836719, "message": "s/%/5/", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612287}, {"user_id": 22563, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457314.935287, "message": "@doolin Github pages?", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611577}, {"user_id": 28365, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457546.0195911, "message": "@technoweenie For this project, I have it's own domain with a blog already running, but it's not hitting the mark exactly right.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611631}, {"user_id": 28370, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302457742.314218, "user_id": 7300}, {"date_created": 1302458180.917716, "user_id": 22563}, {"date_created": 1302459642.4748991, "user_id": 15793}], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457727.9267321, "message": "He didn't mention, we do have a project page generator.  It's basic, but it should at least give you a good start on a basic user-facing page", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611654}, {"user_id": 28365, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457850.2609179, "message": "@eridius I use a simple test: if the project could turn into a product, I consider setting up it's own domain.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611675}, {"user_id": 2, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457852.083837, "message": "I totally love ack", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611676}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457856.9387591, "message": "mislav yeah, the general github pages would work fine for most projects, but more projects could stand to use them", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611677}, {"user_id": 7300, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457897.6842229, "message": "most of my projects are tools for developers so I don't sweat over having nice designed pages", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611684}, {"user_id": 4416, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457948.3518641, "message": "having a git branch that has nothing to do with master is strange", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611697}, {"user_id": 28360, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457345.5678229, "message": "what's the alternative to grep that Andy made?", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611584}, {"user_id": 28360, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457364.262568, "message": "cool, tnx!", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611592}, {"user_id": 7300, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457684.366405, "message": "lot of people say every project needs a domain. it does not. github wiki or github pages as main page to send users to is just fine for most.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611645}, {"user_id": 28370, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457743.594219, "message": "just go into your repo admin and turn on Pages, it'll offer to generate one", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611659}, {"user_id": 2079, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457758.12468, "message": "+1", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611662}, {"user_id": 10831, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457976.2125039, "message": "you would, tammer", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611702}, {"user_id": 28419, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457979.1056621, "message": "beware nerd wrath", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611704}, {"user_id": 1899, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302457993.0110371, "message": ";)", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611711}, {"user_id": 3, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302458010.1410649, "message": "@mislav and yet you made that awesome hub page", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611716}, {"user_id": 7300, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302458066.1448929, "user_id": 25354}], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302458054.6503489, "message": "anyone here not using hub? stop what you're doing http://defunkt.io/hub/", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611731}, {"user_id": 5852, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302458420.0435641, "message": "Wait, can someone explain to me why I shouldn't be developing on master?", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611814}, {"user_id": 22563, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302459335.5645969, "message": "@defunkt Oh cool. I had never seen ack before today. I may have to switch.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611911}, {"user_id": 28396, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302459827.945544, "message": "On solo things and pre 1.0 things, the only branch is master, and sometimes refactor.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611986}, {"user_id": 2079, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302458222.1031489, "message": "hahah", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611769}, {"user_id": 28396, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302459785.4340529, "message": "@jacobian long-running development in master makes it harder for collaborators to grab the latest source and start work. Instead they have to back up a few changesets and start from there. Git is awesomely complex and its really easy to do something wrong if you're inexperienced.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611978}, {"user_id": 1295, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460727.125453, "message": "@timocratic It's useful to push WIP commits (you are creating WIP commits, right?). You wouldn't want those on master", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612207}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460875.4293571, "message": "no more, no less", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612271}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302459977.4614649, "message": "s/and/on/", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612019}, {"user_id": 28400, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460788.3764751, "message": "but those are surprisingly rare", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612231}, {"user_id": 1899, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302458461.7078791, "message": "@jacobian I don't see it as a hard and fast thing, but on bigger projects i use git-flow, and so master only has releases.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611821}, {"user_id": 28396, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460729.589972, "message": "@timocratic it's a matter of scale and discipline. Eventually something gets through and that can back up your whole process for hours.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612208}, {"user_id": 7300, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302458465.305316, "message": "@jacobian you can if you want.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611823}, {"user_id": 28396, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460814.8491099, "message": "rebase == SATAN", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612241}, {"user_id": 3906, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460910.084177, "message": "s/EHAD/HEAD/", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612286}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460970.1907499, "message": "@nuclearsandwich you will never know if devs use rebase on their local flow, though", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612303}, {"user_id": 28396, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460980.8078949, "message": "@eridius and @steveklabnik I'm open to having my mind changed but I need good reasons.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612308}, {"user_id": 5852, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461103.8504469, "message": "@nuclearsandwich sadly, for me at least Git is complex experience or no. I'm two years and a bit into using Git and it still makes me feel like a n00b at least once a week.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612341}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302458613.1300521, "message": "I think the pow pipe to sh is sexy", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611841}, {"user_id": 3, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302458587.708055, "message": "It spans multiple files but builds into a single standalone", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611840}, {"user_id": 4290, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302458625.382226, "message": "indeed", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611842}, {"user_id": 15793, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302459340.232671, "message": "@mislav My hope is that by using a better home page, more projects can become high-profile popular.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611913}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302459969.6539409, "message": "@nuclearsandwich only if you push shite?  As long as you develop and master, and keep CI green your fine. ;)", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612015}, {"user_id": 28396, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302459943.0203991, "user_id": 1899}], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302459673.8499351, "message": "@jacobian The reason I try to encourage not developing in master at work is because it discourages concurrent development on separate features.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611958}, {"user_id": 28365, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302459743.690572, "message": "@nuclearsandwich That's a stupendously good reason.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 611970}, {"user_id": 28240, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460520.0006521, "message": "it needs to have lots of inside joke features too", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612162}, {"user_id": 28370, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461674.925668, "message": "You're Doing It Wrong\u2122", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612486}, {"user_id": 28370, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461702.1164711, "message": "@timocratic I love pointing them to gitref.org", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612492}, {"user_id": 28240, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302460541.678658, "user_id": 1899}], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460504.044209, "message": "second order of business, wire up irc bot to CI i hope", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612159}, {"user_id": 15793, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460955.969691, "message": "@timocratic: I understand that they blur, but yet, discrete documented releases are important to your users.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612297}, {"user_id": 1295, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302460161.211163, "user_id": 1899}], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460085.2195439, "message": "@timocratic that's fine if you're solo, but when developing in a group/community, you should develop on feature branches... for your own sanity. That doesn't mean you ever have to push those feature branches", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612047}, {"user_id": 3906, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460770.2006879, "message": "I absolutely love being able to say `git log --first-parent` and seeing all the merges that tell me what they did really quickly without having to see a dozen commits", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612223}, {"user_id": 1295, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460808.20035, "message": "@timocratic I completely disagree. WIP is useful. Small, frequent commits", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612237}, {"user_id": 3906, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460821.9433291, "message": "@timocratic I use WIP when I need to go work on something else and don't think I have a single logical commit right now. I don't usually push them though", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612244}, {"user_id": 28396, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460840.63869, "message": "history should not be mutable. We don't have time machines.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612254}, {"user_id": 28396, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460889.000221, "message": "I see why the kernel uses it, I'd never allow it in my devel process.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612277}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302461559.2602291, "user_id": 28365}], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461351.5007429, "message": "@jacobian ah yeah, it's definitely the C/assembly of source management :/", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612424}, {"user_id": 16, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302462202.604162, "user_id": 28396}], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461631.495064, "message": "it sucks that people yell at anyone over something so silly", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612479}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460682.176533, "message": "everything is trade-offs, and branches have a cost", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612192}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460779.2890029, "message": "I'd argue actually WIP is a sign of *lack* of discipline :D", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612226}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460014.7486401, "message": "s/your/you're/ *facepalm*", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612028}, {"user_id": 3906, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460724.0179081, "message": "even when working on solo projects, I tend to use branches for features", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612206}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460870.081481, "message": "rebase is a powerful and dangerous tool", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612269}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461010.200676, "message": ":D", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612317}, {"user_id": 28396, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461183.200109, "message": "@defunkt precisely, everyone on my team is a git newbie (even me, I prefer hg)", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612373}, {"user_id": 16, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461615.813509, "message": "we're talking about nerds, right?", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612476}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302461686.9211669, "user_id": 1003}], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461671.787761, "message": "git is painful enough to learn for new users without the assholes", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612485}, {"user_id": 16, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461732.1238029, "message": "at GitHub, we keep merge commits because they contain useful data", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612502}, {"user_id": 15793, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302461924.972971, "user_id": 3906}, {"date_created": 1302461928.400842, "user_id": 28365}], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461918.5598431, "message": "At some point a Benevolent Dictator has to cut it off and say \"here's what we're doing\".  See also: tabs vs. spaces, etc.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612547}, {"user_id": 1899, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460801.358851, "message": "@timocratic only if you don't rebase them later.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612234}, {"user_id": 1899, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460851.7594531, "message": "no no no no no.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612258}, {"user_id": 3906, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460900.5898311, "message": "@nuclearsandwich I can't imagine _not_ using it. Rebase is incredibly powerful and useful", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612281}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461002.4116261, "message": "@listrophy those aren't WIP", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612314}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461649.6141779, "message": "I mean you will say \"Sure, that is a valid way to use git\" (cause you aren't an asshole)", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612482}, {"user_id": 16, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461722.3388269, "message": "if you dont bother w/ rebase, then the hardest thing is multiple/remote branches", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612500}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302462095.8080039, "message": "which was kinda hilarious", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612582}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460819.6619909, "message": "@steveklabnik obviously :D", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612243}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460852.4819319, "message": "@eridius yeah, those I push into a feature branch and then reset master back one commit", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612259}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460917.5746, "message": "@petdance if you do continuos release those barriers blur", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612288}, {"user_id": 28396, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461001.166189, "message": "@timocratic if anyone at work does it, I hit them with a stick.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612313}, {"user_id": 28396, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461094.3980379, "message": "I prefer @steveklabnik's analogy to @eridius's", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612337}, {"user_id": 28396, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461098.8111551, "message": "Give me a situation in git where rebase is appropriate on a four man team.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612340}, {"user_id": 1899, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461148.8478, "message": "git is hard because it's easy. it's like c, or assembly. it's low level, doesn't do much, but it means it can be iffy to reason about sometimes.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612359}, {"user_id": 28396, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461234.52086, "message": "@timocratic me too. More fun that way.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612395}, {"user_id": 5852, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461263.0719841, "message": "@timocratic not really - I barely use rebase. Stuff like when to -ff and when not, when to branch and when not, what gets pushed where, how tracking works, ... Git regularly makes me feel confused and stupid.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612401}, {"user_id": 28240, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460509.511755, "message": "i mean that's just Best Practices", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612160}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461999.111187, "message": "yeah, I mean that man is a (unpaid) profession troll :D", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612564}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302462089.2592881, "message": "see reddit vs hackernews", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612580}, {"user_id": 3906, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460905.5226181, "message": "rebase -i --autosquash EHAD~%", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612283}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460932.7718749, "message": "for instance", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612292}, {"user_id": 5852, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302461218.186512, "user_id": 28546}, {"date_created": 1302461251.458971, "user_id": 28396}], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461158.2961781, "message": "I feel about Git the same way I feel about my chainsaw. I love them, and feel like a badass using them, but I'm always scared I'm going to hurt myself.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612361}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461225.971231, "message": "so I always giggle when I use it", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612388}, {"user_id": 5852, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461358.970001, "message": "I guess it's more \"best practices\" than day-to-day usage that escape me. I just feel like I'm perpetually DOIN IT RONG.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612427}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461587.897665, "message": "@jacobian you should just say \"The github guys said I can do it this way\" whichever way you decide (rebase or not).  I think they'll back that up, right @technoweenie?", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612470}, {"user_id": 3906, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302461749.7293301, "user_id": 28365}, {"date_created": 1302461910.458992, "user_id": 1899}], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461737.7321489, "message": "@jacobian It definitely is. Git supports practically any workflow under the sun. Projects should be defining their workflow just like they define their code style", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612504}, {"user_id": 28396, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460481.862325, "message": "@timocratic we haven't rolled CI yet. I'm p/t right now and in school. Going f/t in Summer. First order of business set up CI and server management. (now manual)", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612155}, {"user_id": 1899, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460732.792969, "message": "i think there's a big difference between the web and desktop apps", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612210}, {"user_id": 28396, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460527.4181521, "message": "@thedaniel IRC and notifo, yeah.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612164}, {"user_id": 3906, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460732.9837019, "message": "any time I have a series of commits that should be conceptually grouped together, I consider using a branch", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612211}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460790.7270491, "message": "exactly", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612232}, {"user_id": 28396, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460877.4876921, "message": "I started with a flame, but really reasonably, rebase is dangerous for small things.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612272}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460929.112999, "message": "rvm is great at constantly releasing changes", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612291}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460978.7546339, "message": "it works fine for unpushed stuff ;)", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612307}, {"user_id": 1899, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461000.0515959, "message": "it's better to provide a clear history than an accurate history.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612312}, {"user_id": 3, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302461079.6507859, "user_id": 3906}, {"date_created": 1302461081.8753059, "user_id": 22563}, {"date_created": 1302461101.6682489, "user_id": 1899}, {"date_created": 1302461147.263665, "user_id": 28426}, {"date_created": 1302467027.081805, "user_id": 28461}], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461073.771734, "message": "rebase is horrible for newbies. It should require a breathalyzer and git certification", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612327}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302461225.3225019, "user_id": 28396}, {"date_created": 1302461270.434181, "user_id": 28220}], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461218.7941761, "message": "yeah, my biggest problem with reflog is in my head it's pronounced re-flog", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612386}, {"user_id": 5852, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302461427.6045189, "user_id": 3}, {"date_created": 1302461452.6868279, "user_id": 1899}, {"date_created": 1302461820.5688269, "user_id": 28282}, {"date_created": 1302467097.8606739, "user_id": 28461}], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461405.4390261, "message": "git's the worst dvcs except for all the others", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612438}, {"user_id": 5852, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461507.888145, "message": "@technoweenie but see that's kinda what I'm talking about. When I started using Git, one of the arguments about why I should use it was that it has rebase. Then a few months later a kernel hacker told me that rebase was evil and I stopped using it. Then I got yelled at a few months later for not using pull --rebase. THen a few months after *that* I got yelled at *for* using pull --rebase.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612452}, {"user_id": 3, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302461363.0971961, "user_id": 5852}], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461346.0099549, "message": "@jacobian that's what happens when we let kernel hackers create user experiences", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612422}, {"user_id": 28365, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461493.4925089, "message": "git is like the worm drive of skilsaws http://www.skiltools.com/en/AllTools/Category/Product/default.html?pid=HD77&cid=45", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612448}, {"user_id": 3906, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461195.0916331, "message": "reflog, even", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612377}, {"user_id": 5852, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302462013.4356761, "user_id": 28365}], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461934.0595789, "message": "See http://programming-motherfucker.com/ :)", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612551}, {"user_id": 16, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302462075.580817, "message": "and _why at the same time", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612577}, {"user_id": 28365, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461266.7752359, "message": "@jacobian Chainsaws are cool.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612402}, {"user_id": 3, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302461308.1523321, "user_id": 28396}, {"date_created": 1302461361.933269, "user_id": 28426}], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461278.2163811, "message": "@nuclearsandwich learn rebase when you want to learn rebase, but never before that point", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612406}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460765.6959641, "message": "@listrophy make smaller changes and WIP becomes less common", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612221}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460661.1392591, "message": "@listrophy I was being a little tongue in cheek, but I have an honest question - as long as you keep master shippable, do you really need a bunch of branches?", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612190}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460707.5650101, "message": "perhaps it should be a function of # of devs/concurrent features being developed (aka project size)?", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612199}, {"user_id": 28400, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302462093.3328669, "user_id": 28282}], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460783.970628, "message": "I use branches very selectively. If it's a big overhaul that can't be pushed out in stages, for example", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612228}, {"user_id": 15793, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460808.95924, "message": "@timocratic: Often, people see origin/master as a release, not something-that-you-COULD-release.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612238}, {"user_id": 16, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302460896.884491, "user_id": 1899}], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460868.623301, "message": "as long as the commits arent published, rebase away", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612267}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460804.2015209, "message": "(the Pivotal Hive Mind is in full effect :D)", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612235}, {"user_id": 5852, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461760.8112111, "message": "@eridius Yay. Another thing communities can bikeshed!", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612510}, {"user_id": 5852, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461827.6193609, "message": "@eridius ugh, workflow arguments are the absolute worst for me. A huge amount of energy expended quibbling over meta-work.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612527}, {"user_id": 1899, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461925.232096, "message": "that's why i like git flow so much", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612550}, {"user_id": 1899, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460830.991843, "message": "is there a dislike button? //c @nuclearsandwich", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612249}, {"user_id": 1899, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302460834.327291, "message": "rebase == awesome", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612250}, {"user_id": 28370, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302461566.9174531, "user_id": 3906}], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461559.8829131, "message": "<3 `git pull --rebase`", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612461}, {"user_id": 5852, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302461915.3372991, "user_id": 28426}], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461713.168124, "message": "Thing is, I *want* to know how to do it right! But it seems to me that for Git \"right\" is a matter of taste and context in a lot of places.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612495}, {"user_id": 5852, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302461948.604944, "user_id": 1899}, {"date_created": 1302462839.0547309, "user_id": 3}, {"date_created": 1302461969.8946719, "user_id": 1003}, {"date_created": 1302462313.4427159, "user_id": 28546}], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461923.940331, "message": "My opinion is that people love to think that process will somehow magically make work easier, when in fact the only way to get work done is to Get Work Done.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612549}, {"user_id": 5852, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461058.2074311, "message": "@nuclearsandwich thanks - that makes sense.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612325}, {"user_id": 5852, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461567.080363, "message": "@doolin WANT", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612463}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461008.5645919, "message": "unless you don't do TDD right", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612316}, {"user_id": 3906, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461010.6669011, "message": "@nuclearsandwich Knives are dangerous, but you can't imagine cooking a meal without one", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612318}, {"user_id": 1899, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461028.751003, "message": "and we don't have time machines, but we do write history books that are not entirely accurate, and are out of order, because it makes it more clear", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612321}, {"user_id": 3906, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461190.0013471, "message": "@jacobian reflag can save you from nearly everything", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612374}, {"user_id": 28396, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461321.002744, "message": "@defunkt one of these days...", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612413}, {"user_id": 28365, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302462023.1517539, "message": "@jacobian Zed scores again.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612568}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461194.3281839, "message": "@jacobian you mean rebase?", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612376}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461385.5948291, "message": "git is like ruby - There is More Than One Way To Do It", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612432}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461397.5829949, "message": "that anti-python basically", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612435}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461404.5255139, "message": "s/that/the/", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612437}, {"user_id": 16, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461436.0260041, "message": "just forget anything related to 'rebase' and git is fine", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612441}, {"user_id": 28370, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461713.7814031, "message": "\"go read that and then let me know if you have any more questions\"", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612496}, {"user_id": 28396, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461223.23488, "message": "@defunkt they hopped on it to use github for code hosting. I came on later.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612387}, {"user_id": 1899, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302462101.9632919, "message": "... and that's what he was doing with programming-mofo", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612584}, {"user_id": 28365, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461538.0910239, "message": "Worm drive, real powerful, cut your leg off real fast.  =)", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612456}, {"user_id": 5852, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302462289.4591291, "user_id": 1003}], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302462002.899358, "message": "Yeah yeah, but the idea's basically sound: no process or toolset or methodology actually gets code written. The only way to write more code is to write more code.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612565}, {"user_id": 5852, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302462029.6647129, "message": "@timocratic have you met Zed? I did, and I have a completely different opinion of the guy. But yes, he's quite good at pissing people off.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612569}, {"user_id": 15793, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302462531.60869, "message": "Should I go through converting my slides to showoff and publishing them?  Would anyone use them?", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612691}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302462078.500453, "message": "which he has publically admitted involves gaming different communities in different ways to show how he can troll them", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612579}, {"user_id": 5852, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461887.111016, "message": "@eridius then I guess I'm doing it wrong because workflow is a constant discussion.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612539}, {"user_id": 3906, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461780.9853089, "message": "@jacobian I disagree. Workflow is very important. No bikeshedding there.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612518}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302462192.1355619, "user_id": 5852}, {"date_created": 1302462157.548079, "user_id": 16}], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302462139.12134, "message": "I think the harcode emphasis of Coda Hale on \"I deliver business value\" is a less flame-baity way to say the same thing", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612589}, {"user_id": 3906, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461853.647166, "message": "@jacobian If people are arguing over workflow, the project maintainer is doing it wrong.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612531}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302462149.345439, "message": "@steveklabnik exactly!", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612591}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302462207.737092, "message": "uggh, hardcore", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612604}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302462046.9229259, "message": "@jacobian I mean his internet persona", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612571}, {"user_id": 28426, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302462210.94806, "message": "freudian slip", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612606}, {"user_id": 1899, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302462832.5250821, "user_id": 3}], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461937.295825, "message": "i think we're going to see a lot of git plugins that add workflows on top of it, wasn't that what linus originally envisioned?", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612552}, {"user_id": 16, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302462066.37414, "message": "i've hacked with zed", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612574}, {"user_id": 5852, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302462071.4880641, "message": "@timocratic yes, totally. There's Zed Shaw and then there's \"Zed Shaw\" :)", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612576}, {"user_id": 1899, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302461965.172395, "message": "heh. there's too much other story behind programming-motherfucker to take it seriously.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612559}, {"user_id": 211, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302462703.557358, "message": "@petdance make sure you obtain copyright clearance from your daughter first. :)", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612738}, {"user_id": 22563, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302463709.389806, "message": "@petdance Could you just put out a pdf of them? I wouldn't mind a copy in that format.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 612945}, {"user_id": 1899, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302466719.9928081, "message": "@petdance i'd love a link to slides, i'm blogging all the talks over at the chagelog. even a pdf would be fine ;)", "group_id": 4804, "id": 613252}, {"user_id": 28363, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302468656.9844241, "message": "@petdance I would love to have a copy of those slides - there's a bunch of people I want to send them to", "group_id": 4804, "id": 613659}, {"user_id": 15793, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302467926.913584, "message": "I definitely want to publish the pyramid.  I'll try to put a PDF of the talk on slideshare tomorrow.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 613474}, {"user_id": 28396, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302477934.1999619, "message": "@petdance Thanks for Ack, first encountered it today. Decided to check it out based on the amount of applause you got for it before even speaking.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 615497}, {"user_id": 15793, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302477576.2061701, "message": "Here are the slides: http://www.slideshare.net/petdance/projects-community-and-github", "group_id": 4804, "id": 615413}, {"user_id": 1899, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302477672.1402769, "message": "great! Thanks!", "group_id": 4804, "id": 615438}, {"user_id": 211, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302477753.522867, "message": "@petdance: Indeed, thanks.  It was a great talk.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 615461}, {"user_id": 15793, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302477898.00495, "message": "Thanks for the kind words.  I'm glad you liked it.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 615489}, {"user_id": 15793, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302479343.7951989, "message": "@nuclearsandwich: Maybe project web pages should have applause-o-meters on them.", "group_id": 4804, "id": 615715}, {"user_id": 4655, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302498372.285893, "message": "anybody here familiar w/ the gollum lib??", "group_id": 4804, "id": 619752}, {"user_id": 28364, "stars": [], "topic_id": 18395, "date_created": 1302501946.287158, "message": "@eggie5 I got a pull request accepted from @technoweenie earlier today; what's your question?", "group_id": 4804, "id": 620400}]