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[{"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935265.1437089, "message": "sip", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423463}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935301.625052, "message": "malditas tablas", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423471}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935270.4237871, "message": "o whatever", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423466}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935060.9973071, "message": "te lo escupen.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423411}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935531.405659, "message": "hahahahahaha", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423514}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300932096.6957719, "message": "Yo creo que es justo cobrar por un proyecto full de 15-20k si es de 0.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 422856}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300932211.00175, "message": "\u00bfqu\u00e9 opinas?", "group_id": 7552, "id": 422881}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300932418.51738, "message": "Si cobras poco por tus proyectos es natural que pagues poco a tu team.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 422938}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300931901.4743531, "message": "Para M\u00e9rida y para mi un sueldo de 12K - 15K se me hace razonable y justo. Esa viene siendo mi constante ya desde hace unos a\u00f1os, pero igual la mayor\u00eda de mis trabajos vienen de fuera.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 422799}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300932015.4541249, "message": "10K gana el pero lo mismo su empresa hace trabajos de fuera. Otra cosa es el nivel de los programadores.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 422837}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300932110.865782, "message": "suponiendo que trabajen dos programadores en ese proyecto", "group_id": 7552, "id": 422859}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300932112.2503419, "message": "10 y 10", "group_id": 7552, "id": 422860}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300931665.1165631, "message": "Depende de d\u00f3nde est\u00e9s ubicado.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 422759}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300932055.7466531, "message": "Creo que tiene relaci\u00f3n. Parece que los que terminan devaluando m\u00e1s nuestro trabajo son aquellas empresas que est\u00e1n comenzando o que solo tienen script kiddies.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 422845}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300932103.6313009, "message": "un trabajo de un mes.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 422858}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300932261.796936, "message": "Pues es poco para la carga de trabajo.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 422892}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300932770.0499229, "message": "economicos pero de esos que se venden bastante", "group_id": 7552, "id": 422967}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300932374.188432, "message": "de hecho.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 422921}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300931959.7851491, "message": "Creo que eso es lo que pagan en promedio en empresas de IT aqu\u00ed en M\u00e9rida. Borre en su empresa me coment\u00f3 que ganaba algo similar a esa cantidad.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 422818}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300932230.8622341, "message": "Daniel en Pulsem creo que gana 7k al mes.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 422886}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300932396.173368, "message": "Pero creo que tiene que ver el approach.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 422929}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300931982.9593999, "message": "El problema es que hay muchas empresas que se est\u00e1n devaluando para poder mantenerse a flote haciendo cantidades est\u00fapidas de trabajo por precios muy bajos.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 422824}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300932296.7220991, "message": "Suelo trabajar menos y ganar mas =/", "group_id": 7552, "id": 422902}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300932723.8495171, "message": "Si cobras poco debes vender mucho", "group_id": 7552, "id": 422964}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300932743.788481, "message": "Con una dise\u00f1adora del DF ando viendo sacar sitios de presencia para vender", "group_id": 7552, "id": 422966}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933398.558223, "message": "nop de hecho eso es para clientes que NO quieren modificaciones ni nada a medida", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423080}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933428.515799, "message": "Es un buen plan entonces :)", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423092}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933450.77214, "message": "asegurate de que el admin panel sea super intuitivo", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423098}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933500.031559, "message": "el de CodeIgniter?", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423109}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933645.728471, "message": "yo uso mailchim", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423134}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933647.0022891, "message": ";)", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423135}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933669.0680971, "message": "debe haber alg\u00fan servicio'", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423137}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933784.0344279, "message": "los rails devs cobran caro", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423153}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933819.3470609, "message": "yo igual tengo aws ;D", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423156}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934000.7324121, "message": "sip.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423177}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934043.5057869, "message": "Mil usos <- cu\u00e1nto?", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423193}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934101.0217631, "message": "Eso es lo que se espera de un buen coder.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423203}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933120.2924359, "message": "hm", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423008}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933562.9546609, "message": "usa algo como appengine o Heroku", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423116}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934127.240576, "message": "cu\u00e1ntas horas de trabajo?", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423210}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934395.2415781, "message": "por eso es bueno se hybrid.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423293}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934399.7854781, "message": "Front-to-Back", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423294}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934425.327013, "message": "considero que un buen front-end engineer deber\u00eda estar cobrando 10k-13k al mes. En M\u00e9rida.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423298}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934443.955265, "message": "13-18k", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423302}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934452.6179149, "message": "los hybrids 18-25k", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423303}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934536.0840931, "message": "Lo que me gustar\u00eda ver para variar", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423316}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934560.2810071, "message": "por ejemplo un trabajo de fuera puedes jalar 10k usd de un tir\u00f3n por algo no muy complejo.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423321}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934623.9782879, "message": "ahora ando considerando hacer eso", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423331}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934657.1782351, "message": "primero es empezar con lo base", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423336}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934711.2089181, "message": "2 en Miami y uno en SF", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423352}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934809.032443, "message": "ese es el otro rumbo", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423366}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933250.7426331, "message": "La idea es trabajar sobre layouts predefinidos, solo aplicarles eldise\u00f1o", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423048}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934646.5088279, "message": "No le veo el caso tener una empresa propia donde te pones un sueldo alto :P empezando", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423334}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933865.699544, "message": "No es tan complejo hacer un sistema para deployar con git, hacer un buen servicio apra eso si", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423161}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933940.8396239, "message": "Ya nos fumos del tema =x", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423166}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934074.904376, "message": "Si 10K - 15K una empresa establecidad y haciendo webs complejas", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423197}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934091.110913, "message": "Yo creo que por que esta comodo.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423202}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934164.3559611, "message": "que veo que piden mucho de eso saqu\u00ed", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423223}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934203.2905569, "message": "no programa nada no ma maqueta", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423239}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934316.782886, "message": "Depende del proyecto si la empresa es grande y se dedica a proyectos grandes", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423270}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934676.444159, "message": "yo con 5K puedo estar bien", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423340}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933708.5271621, "message": "esa es otra opcion", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423143}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934008.420454, "message": "por depende de la explotaci\u00b4on que te den", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423178}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934139.2196109, "message": "8 horas como todo trabajador", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423217}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934909.6331301, "message": "una tabla en excell", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423387}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934924.3667581, "message": "con gastos y entradas posibles", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423390}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934943.3329079, "message": "al inicio si", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423393}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934951.447391, "message": "tome varios escenarios", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423394}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934966.8377891, "message": "un script kiddie podria ser bueno si no mas vas hacer sitios de presencia", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423396}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933603.368067, "message": "uh ni que lo digas, hace un tiempo hice un plugin para wordpress..", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423123}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933272.3133299, "message": "y ya el cms sencillito  muy b\u00e1sico", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423054}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933481.6687591, "message": "Si sencillo pensaba usar pyrocms pero es bien pinche complejo me caga", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423108}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933717.1767199, "message": "pero quiero tener todo lo mas centralizado posible", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423144}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934302.8983619, "message": "nacional?", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423266}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933371.308574, "message": "si creo que venda; pero igual tienes que dejar claro que no tienen pensado hacer modificaciones pesadas en su contrato.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423068}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933524.8810439, "message": "lo medio le\u00ed en su \u00e9poca y no me termin\u00f3 de convencer.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423111}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933544.3210089, "message": "ahora vi que los de CodeIgniter por fin hicieron lo que debieron hacer hace a\u00f1os: dar control a la comunidad.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423112}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933556.5940681, "message": "En todo caso creo que es mala opci\u00f3n usar php para ese tipo de desarrollos.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423114}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933583.999558, "message": "dudo mucho que llegue a costarte un sitio de presencia considerando la cantidad de visitas que adquieres.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423119}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935290.990659, "message": "script kiddies", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423470}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933687.084769, "message": "igual y recuerda que puedes hostear algo en bluehost por ejemplo", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423138}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933695.4008551, "message": "y cuentas de correo y shit", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423141}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933702.46492, "message": "pones el dominio ah\u00ed, y configuras las cuentas con google apps.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423142}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933749.060611, "message": ".. no hay mejor fomra de tener control", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423145}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933750.637871, "message": "que usar heroku", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423146}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933763.9472129, "message": "porque no lo puedes sacar de tu cuenta; y no tienes que dar acceso.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423148}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933779.832232, "message": "si son barateros", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423151}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933821.6248479, "message": "y git pro", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423157}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933619.990823, "message": "pero por mas esta mousntroso he considerado heroku .... los mails tengo que tener un server de mail de todas formas", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423128}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933655.046207, "message": "no me convence aja para mandar pero para recibir?", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423136}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933691.5726161, "message": "que te da domains ilimitados", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423140}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933776.6360109, "message": "tambi\u00e9n en dado caso que alguien lo compre dudo que se puedan deshacer de ti r\u00e1pido", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423149}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933803.862675, "message": "contrate aws :P espero hacer algo para deployar eh estado jugando con git", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423155}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933915.1945541, "message": "de hecho.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423164}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934052.3460951, "message": "no?", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423195}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934075.5925951, "message": "no importa que lo exploten; quiere seguir ah\u00ed. Y esta bien", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423198}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934228.2916069, "message": "dise\u00f1ador != front-end engineer", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423248}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934288.511636, "message": "un front-end engineer.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423264}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934343.5131459, "message": "yo he visto que nacional en odesk bien hecho andan por ah\u00ed de los 570 pesos", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423277}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934660.485441, "message": "10k por ejemplo", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423337}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934680.2452421, "message": "yo planeaba negrear gente con 5k", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423341}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934682.2887299, "message": "exacto", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423342}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934683.138557, "message": "jajaja", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423343}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934717.377233, "message": "que nos pueden mandar trabajos como outsourcing.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423353}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934753.699347, "message": "osea complejiodad", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423357}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934796.9960041, "message": "yo como dise\u00f1ador soy pesimo", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423365}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934811.4832709, "message": "capacitar.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423367}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934818.8526111, "message": "yo puedo con eso, soy bastante bueno en ese campo.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423369}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934825.9157879, "message": "pero si me dices quiero que la cosita de vueltas y haga mil porquerias, asi te lo entrego", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423370}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934880.2503891, "message": "si, es un sueldo que muchas empresas dan", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423378}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934915.1834249, "message": "lol", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423388}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934917.6979699, "message": "haha", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423389}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934980.8011889, "message": "para sistemas mas complejos NO", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423399}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934995.3480189, "message": "un script kiddie que la hara de integrador", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423401}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935008.5530479, "message": "5  - 6 k se me hace razonable", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423403}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935054.686588, "message": "osea", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423410}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933451.899838, "message": "eso vende", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423099}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933822.0854721, "message": ":D", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423158}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933959.7123499, "message": "retomemos..", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423168}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933968.30373, "message": "\u00bfentonces cu\u00e1nto es lo sano?", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423170}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933974.6680629, "message": "para cobrar en M\u00e9rida?", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423172}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934013.2596991, "message": "hahah", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423181}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934023.6499431, "message": "yo a Daetherius le he ofrecido", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423186}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934024.779031, "message": "12k", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423187}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934201.0095451, "message": "de hecho", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423237}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934218.774174, "message": "que puede cobrar igual que un back-end engineer", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423246}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934285.7202411, "message": "cu\u00e1nto crees que cobra alguien por hacer eso?\nbien hecho?", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423263}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934346.68606, "message": "el problema recae en lo siguiente: las empreasas quieren pagar lo mismo a todos.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423278}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934594.6145179, "message": "7k / 3 que trabajen en la empresa.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423326}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934606.7193849, "message": "28k MXN", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423328}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934745.7862549, "message": "ahora por ejemplo", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423355}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934755.4836531, "message": "solo el front-end.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423358}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935026.1153409, "message": "soi queremos mercado US", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423407}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935218.4542651, "message": "tiene que quedar como el PSD", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423451}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935220.4049361, "message": "y adem\u00e1s dicen", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423452}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935377.328331, "message": "@nekrox ?", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423483}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933502.6683271, "message": "aja", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423110}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933580.1325631, "message": "Pues es un CMS completo, mas f\u00e1cil de extnder que wp", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423118}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933644.3478379, "message": "eh estado probando cloudmailin y otro no lo recuerdo pero meh", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423133}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934013.1049659, "message": "for an example", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423180}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934026.922575, "message": "yo soy mil usos y me pagan poco por todo lo que hago u.u", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423188}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934075.9000981, "message": "la hago desde sisadmin hasta de proyect manager pasando por \"el programador que hace las cosas raras\"", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423199}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934181.134964, "message": "\u00bfque hace un integrador?", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423228}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934264.1907029, "message": "ok pero no, integrador que no mas le den el psd locorte", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423253}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934274.6088009, "message": "por ejemplo", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423257}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934321.655354, "message": "10K - 15K", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423271}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934481.399622, "message": "quiero que alguien le diga eso a mi jefe :')", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423306}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934684.8660469, "message": "5 k", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423344}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934734.855448, "message": "que clase de trabajos?", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423354}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934869.71313, "message": "Yo as\u00ed pienso", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423376}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934971.7978671, "message": "o cosas sencillas", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423398}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935137.557256, "message": "@nekrox mmmm mas bien del tipo que no queda como el psd o que si le hace feo el que hace seo", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423431}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935170.712471, "message": "@nekrox esa es otra jaladota, usar templetes de dreamweaber", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423437}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935175.063864, "message": "usar dreamweaber \u00ac\u00ac", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423440}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935264.0106361, "message": "xD", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423462}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935376.7496281, "message": "juntarnos rentar un local y cada quien trabaje por su cuenta", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423482}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933607.836848, "message": "me caga c\u00f3mo funciona", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423124}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933611.055023, "message": "con sus event listeners y shit", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423125}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933966.3214691, "message": "Yo quiero usar heroku, pa mi cosa", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423169}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933998.584168, "message": "trabajando en una empresa?", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423176}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934038.256994, "message": "exactament.e", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423192}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934089.392405, "message": "ahh, pero eso es normal Borre.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423201}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934123.5604379, "message": "entonces, promedio deber\u00eda ser de 10 a 15 al mes", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423207}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934256.0575349, "message": "esa era nuestra platica de ayer precisamente, buscar dise\u00f1ador que sepa de interfaces graficas", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423250}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934578.226994, "message": "me parece justo dividir el 70% entre los que trabajaron el proyecto", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423322}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934578.7213509, "message": "bueno, tambien dependiendo que clase de proyecto", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423323}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934617.57372, "message": "as\u00ed es", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423330}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934749.8014679, "message": "hice un sitio m\u00f3vil", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423356}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934892.4138861, "message": "Hace poco hice mi bussines plan", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423381}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935025.4193521, "message": "mas bonos", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423406}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935052.502305, "message": "@Kuroir exaaacto, no te los pagan :\\", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423409}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935061.434387, "message": "el codigo puede estar espagueti", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423412}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935081.8856001, "message": "as\u00ed como la amiga de @mantus", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423418}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935160.106216, "message": "eso es otro pecado", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423433}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935163.2224591, "message": "por ejemplo", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423434}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935360.0213611, "message": "Sabes que prefiero hacer", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423479}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935232.573705, "message": "\"this are mockups, integrate them so they look like the design.\"", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423456}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933956.516968, "message": "de hecho.....", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423167}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933987.3848829, "message": "trabajando en una empresa* no siendo freelancer.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423174}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934204.0693181, "message": "eso he visto que piden mucho", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423240}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934210.5392101, "message": "pero no confundas.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423243}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934213.354531, "message": "Hay front-end engineer.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423244}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934356.96854, "message": "por ejempo", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423282}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934494.406697, "message": "los proyectos.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423310}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934511.6484439, "message": "porque se deval\u00faan mucho para poder estar en el mercado.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423315}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934652.698878, "message": "as\u00ed es", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423335}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934847.159198, "message": "volviendo al tema de los sueldos:", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423372}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934895.442836, "message": "3.5k", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423383}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935102.0351, "message": "te lo escupen.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423424}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300933993.4053521, "message": "Depende experiencia", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423175}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934013.69542, "message": "pero yo creo para alguien que hace la talacha tipo @daetherius 8K - 10K se me ahce justo", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423183}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934056.3466849, "message": "como que medio apaeche?", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423196}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934132.300555, "message": "y es que 8K es sueldo \"alto\" por que hay lugares donde pagan 4 o 5", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423213}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934159.8626649, "message": "5 o 6 se me hace correcto para un integrador", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423221}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934192.6807849, "message": "integrar html a cms", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423232}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934198.624012, "message": "lol", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423235}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934218.380496, "message": "nono no dise\u00f1ador", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423245}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934383.8143921, "message": "Pero ten encuenta que no todas las empresas necesitan un front end engineer", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423289}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934666.473037, "message": "o hasta menos", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423339}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934029.0778019, "message": "pero ese cabr\u00f3n es medio apache..", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423189}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934038.087059, "message": "Para desarrollo de webs mas complejas 10K - 15K", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423191}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934051.5598199, "message": "10-15k me parece bien en una empresa ya establecida.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423194}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934076.6458631, "message": "es fiel.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423200}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934273.16292, "message": "y lo vuelta un template para wp", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423255}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934275.421556, "message": "y ya", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423258}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934305.70051, "message": "aja", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423267}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934330.2578909, "message": "lo mismo que un back-end dev aprox.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423273}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934334.571085, "message": "si", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423275}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934477.3768671, "message": "Depende mucho de que tipo de empresa sea y que proyectos maneje", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423305}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934590.781909, "message": "De hecho", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423325}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934624.9043009, "message": "un sueldo alto para reinvertir en la misma empresa", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423332}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934856.458729, "message": "entonces, 10-15k para una empresa ya estable.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423373}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934898.898608, "message": "cu\u00e1l es comparte.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423385}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935023.2409101, "message": "ese es un peque\u00f1o problema.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423405}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935031.8881681, "message": "no podemos dar trabajos hecho por script kiddies.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423408}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935074.9159279, "message": "olvidate del back end", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423415}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935085.0704701, "message": "que muchos saben.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423419}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935192.017283, "message": "\"table-less, seo optimized, haml, sass, compass, colors changeable with variables.\"", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423442}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300935297.1133411, "user_id": 20522}], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935280.2342219, "message": "en india y he visto trabajos con tablas.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423469}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935336.681375, "message": "po reso lo hice.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423477}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935434.296021, "message": "jaja", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423495}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934370.2635379, "message": "un proyecto de 30k lo quieren dividir igual entre 4", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423285}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934376.7226219, "message": "7500 <- ", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423288}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934436.8326809, "message": "los back-end engineers; dependiendo de qu\u00e9 tan complejo", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423299}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934501.887599, "message": "si manejas proyectos nacionales, estas jodido", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423312}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934541.72998, "message": "es una empresa que sea transparente con eso.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423317}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934242.081656, "message": "Designer -> Front-End Engineer -> Back-End Engineer.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423249}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934347.609668, "message": "pasar un psd a wp", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423279}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934483.9217319, "message": "eso es otra cosa.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423307}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934558.1879871, "message": "exaaacto", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423320}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934582.759896, "message": "y el resto para crecimiento de la empresa.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423324}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934599.2444479, "message": "2333.333333 <- usd", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423327}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934608.234726, "message": "En el caso de que sea mi empresa yo prefiero sacrificar mi sueldo", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423329}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934692.6714239, "message": "hay que hacerlo", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423345}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934694.8115339, "message": "yo tengo plata ahora.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423346}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934701.918051, "message": "y tengo un inversionista de US", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423348}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934703.836544, "message": "dos*", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423349}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934707.1626279, "message": "3*", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423350}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934710.464757, "message": "yo no mucho tiempo :(", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423351}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934764.1240339, "message": "cosas relativamente simples", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423359}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934771.241343, "message": "en especial si usas rails", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423360}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934785.511749, "message": "pero necesitar\u00eda que supieran front-end", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423364}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934861.1884, "message": "5-6k para una empresa que comienza.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423374}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934864.2357559, "message": "(?)", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423375}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934891.8318551, "message": "de hecho, he visto hasta menos", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423380}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934902.5345881, "message": "y mas o menos esos sueldos considere", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423386}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934926.4059501, "message": "\u00bfy qu\u00e9 tipo de developers?", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423391}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300934928.430073, "message": "script kiddies?", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423392}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935018.9598711, "message": "para un programador 7 - 8K", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423404}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935066.7424519, "message": "pero si no lo haces bien", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423413}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935071.128526, "message": "no te lo pagan", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423414}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935080.9460199, "message": "que es lo m\u00e1s evidente", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423417}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935092.35274, "message": "si usas tablas, o si carga lento", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423420}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935094.7894959, "message": "o si no usas sprites", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423421}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935097.891983, "message": "o si no hay SEO", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423423}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935153.327179, "message": "usa templates de dreamweaver", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423432}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935171.3235061, "message": "ahora me contrataron para un front-end \"maquetaci\u00f3n\"", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423438}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935077.925344, "message": "incluso el front-end", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423416}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935176.6828499, "message": "me pidieron explicitamente lo siguiente:", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423441}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935317.827214, "message": ":) verdad", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423474}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935332.6004601, "message": "estoy pensando que necesitamos un grupo as\u00ed de develoeprs.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423476}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935254.9303701, "message": "pero bueno, a estas alturas, alguien todavia hace algo con tablas? xD", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423460}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935263.5941851, "message": "que no sea prescisamente una tabla?", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423461}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935422.849299, "message": "si @nekrox, yo andaba pensando tambi\u00e9n en algo as\u00ed, ora que me corran me llevo los clientes conmigo \u00ac\u00ac", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423491}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935515.6164711, "message": "\u00bfpor donde vas a andar @nekrox?", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423509}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935540.920428, "message": "brb... compraron una compu... creo.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423516}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935201.7319429, "message": "tiempo de entrega. Lunes a Domingo.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423445}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935266.226038, "message": "los indios", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423464}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935267.98458, "message": "indus", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423465}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935273.712358, "message": "ah\u00ed hacen mucho outsourcing", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423467}, {"user_id": 20522, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935306.6197929, "message": "oye este chat esta chido", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423472}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935403.933224, "message": "Hace como un mes vi unas oficinas", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423487}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935420.600209, "message": "no mas estoy esperando que me adelanten dinero y rentare una ... pero no quiero solo :$", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423490}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935495.6948199, "message": "de hecho ... para finales de abril con gente o si gente lo mas seguro es que rente", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423506}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935522.8918109, "message": ":P", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423512}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935383.746135, "message": "si nos podemos ayudar entre nosotroschido", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423485}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935434.6379859, "message": "en mi casa estoy comodo", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423496}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935423.9944119, "message": "osea para mi solo para que", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423492}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935451.1261981, "message": "y hable con 2 o 3 cuates y si le entran", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423502}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935438.6098089, "message": "yo no puedo", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423497}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935445.702847, "message": "no me puedo llevar mi iMac", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423499}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935447.0169539, "message": ":(", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423501}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935522.261735, "message": "ahaha por mi casa", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423511}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935548.6969149, "message": "igual andan construyendo unas nuevas", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423517}, {"user_id": 4653, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935565.734499, "message": "\u00bfcu\u00e1nto te costar\u00e1 el chiste?", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423518}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935699.9694941, "message": "Los primeros meses =/ como 8K los demas como 5K", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423524}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300935880.4315441, "message": "La joda es que te piden meses por adelantado", "group_id": 7552, "id": 423537}, {"user_id": 12727, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300951719.7027559, "message": "Junior Developer  8k - 10k\nSenior Developer 10k - 15k", "group_id": 7552, "id": 424543}, {"user_id": 12133, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300985285.2211781, "message": "la ultimavez que me ofreciero trabajar en merida fue por 6K mensuales", "group_id": 7552, "id": 428602}, {"user_id": 24690, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300991131.6211021, "message": "Pues eso es lo que te pagan en casi cualquier empresa del CITI...", "group_id": 7552, "id": 429445}, {"user_id": 24405, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300989473.347239, "message": "Si esta mal pagado aqui en merida.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 429118}, {"user_id": 24690, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300991356.698632, "message": "Obviamente buscar en otros lados, por eso siguen pagando esos sueldos, porque muchos los toman \"porque es el CITI\" \u00ac\u00ac", "group_id": 7552, "id": 429489}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300991274.217169, "message": "Y que debe hacer un programador ante esa situaci\u00f3n? aceptar el trabajo, rechazarlo, buscar en otros lados?", "group_id": 7552, "id": 429478}, {"user_id": 24405, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300990969.471776, "message": "ahora que recuerdo, Sistemex ofrec\u00eda trabajo por la m\u00f3dica cantidad de 4 mil al mes... (mas comisiones, #dicen) Eso si es un insulto.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 429398}, {"user_id": 12133, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300994635.5695641, "message": "@nekrox ser freelance", "group_id": 7552, "id": 430123}, {"user_id": 22663, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1300993594.6704581, "message": "Es una pena que nuestra labor est\u00e9 tan mal pagado en nuestro medio.", "group_id": 7552, "id": 429970}, {"user_id": 24427, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1301319275.097753, "message": "Por donde esta el local @nekrox ?", "group_id": 7552, "id": 457793}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 14867, "date_created": 1301332279.0347519, "message": "50 x 53f fco montejo", "group_id": 7552, "id": 460032}]