convore.json/groups/django-community/alternatives-to-managepy-startapp-and-startproject/messages.json

[{"user_id": 1822, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11395, "date_created": 1299542490.534955, "message": "seems like a good place for the community to gather around some best practices/conventions, I'd rather delete forms.py and admin.py if not needed in exchange for learning that those are good places to put that code (for example)", "group_id": 81, "id": 292547}, {"user_id": 1822, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11395, "date_created": 1299542365.149024, "message": "have people posted some good starting points in terms of paster scripts etc that build out better or more complete starter directory structures", "group_id": 81, "id": 292534}, {"user_id": 1822, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11395, "date_created": 1299542405.3694799, "message": "I have one for apps that sets up a full dist folder layout, with docs, readme, setup.py etc.  But it is sort of primitive and I'm sure someone has done a better job", "group_id": 81, "id": 292537}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11395, "date_created": 1299542566.788733, "message": "pinax provides some of this, the last time I looked at it basic_project was a slightly more modern version of startproject", "group_id": 81, "id": 292551}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11395, "date_created": 1299542779.5982161, "message": "(I think with \"starter projects\" there's an inherent tradeoff between useful and generic. The more specific bits I stick in that _I_ almost always need for the types of projects I do, the less likely it is that someone else will find it matches their use cases.)", "group_id": 81, "id": 292568}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11395, "date_created": 1299542704.3527319, "message": "I do this internally, but haven't really tried to clean it up for public use. It's not very generic, it's highly opinionated.", "group_id": 81, "id": 292564}, {"user_id": 1822, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11395, "date_created": 1299543157.0675659, "message": "my current solution involves renaming a number of placeholders by hand", "group_id": 81, "id": 292595}, {"user_id": 1822, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11395, "date_created": 1299543144.4384251, "message": "on the app side, seems like the easier it is to make an app well packaged and shareable, the more the community wins", "group_id": 81, "id": 292593}, {"user_id": 215, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299572070.520607, "user_id": 1}], "topic_id": 11395, "date_created": 1299562297.999341, "message": "with that, i am off to bed for my flight in the morning. see everyone at PyCon (hopefully everyone) :-)", "group_id": 81, "id": 294339}, {"user_id": 215, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11395, "date_created": 1299562177.9738491, "message": "@ericflo in Pinax 0.9 (our development release) zero_project is the sweet spot IMO. it is a normal Django project with staticfiles and debug_toolbar. see it at https://github.com/pinax/pinax/tree/master/pinax/projects/zero_project", "group_id": 81, "id": 294312}, {"user_id": 215, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11395, "date_created": 1299562247.973743, "message": "we've been rebasing every other project on its parents. so it goes zero > account > basic > social (basically)", "group_id": 81, "id": 294325}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11395, "date_created": 1299562201.3866429, "message": "@brosner Boom.", "group_id": 81, "id": 294317}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11395, "date_created": 1299562215.1823931, "message": "Exactly what I was thinking of, I knew Pinax had something for that.", "group_id": 81, "id": 294320}, {"user_id": 4936, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11395, "date_created": 1299570893.8975201, "message": "With LFS and LFC we are using zc.buildout: https://bitbucket.org/hoehne/lfs-buildout-development/src/381dc0dc59ac/buildout.cfg", "group_id": 81, "id": 294877}, {"user_id": 2588, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299617419.9011641, "user_id": 16762}], "topic_id": 11395, "date_created": 1299608910.4449799, "message": "Not sure if this is what you're after but we have a project bootstrapper we use for new projects: https://github.com/lincolnloop/django-startproject  Charles Leifer also has a similar project that looks nice: https://github.com/coleifer/django-site-gen", "group_id": 81, "id": 298153}, {"user_id": 15927, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11395, "date_created": 1299665590.3910699, "message": "It can create startproject, with database, serverconfig and more more.", "group_id": 81, "id": 303384}, {"user_id": 15927, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11395, "date_created": 1299665533.793849, "message": "Im use my tool: http://packages.python.org/makesite/", "group_id": 81, "id": 303365}, {"user_id": 15927, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11395, "date_created": 1299665689.370364, "message": "http://packages.python.org/makesite/modules.html#django", "group_id": 81, "id": 303401}, {"user_id": 1822, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11395, "date_created": 1299700204.823812, "message": "surprised not more out there for scaffolding a distributable, reusable app, with setup.py, docs, README, LICENSE, etc", "group_id": 81, "id": 307751}, {"user_id": 19676, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11395, "date_created": 1299782514.733839, "message": "I think django-command-extensions provides a means of copying from a template directory:  http://code.google.com/p/django-command-extensions/wiki/CommandExtensions", "group_id": 81, "id": 315422}]