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[{"user_id": 1376, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297306529.228929, "message": "I typically develop on various linux distros, recently started developing some things on a macbook.  Is there a standard setup/tools to ease development on OSX?", "group_id": 81, "id": 63781}, {"user_id": 1376, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297306968.2923069, "message": "@alex no vim?", "group_id": 81, "id": 63910}, {"user_id": 3946, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297307359.37465, "user_id": 141}, {"date_created": 1297318767.7673011, "user_id": 1057}], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297306765.764493, "message": "I've yet to see something beat: MacPorts(me) or brew(damn near everyone else) + virtualenv + pip + Your favorite editor + Your favorite terminal", "group_id": 81, "id": 63858}, {"user_id": 1736, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297306888.5251069, "message": "pythonbrew is handy if you want to have a lot of Python versions installed", "group_id": 81, "id": 63893}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297306923.1860089, "message": "gedit + brew + virtualenv + pip", "group_id": 81, "id": 63903}, {"user_id": 1376, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297308813.642731, "message": "@alex what is wtf? vim is very interesting maybe.", "group_id": 81, "id": 64212}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [{"date_created": 1308943250.316478, "user_id": 8391}], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297306976.416213, "message": "wtf is a vim?", "group_id": 81, "id": 63911}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297307314.956634, "message": "though if you're going standard osx... homebrew, $EDITOR, iterm2 (it has 256 color support), virtualenv, pip", "group_id": 81, "id": 63946}, {"user_id": 4341, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297307664.90695, "message": "I'd have to chime in +1 on pip + virtualenv + homebrew ... oh, and emacs! I use this combination pretty seamlessly across my os x and linux machines.", "group_id": 81, "id": 64002}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297311323.178504, "user_id": 3019}], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297307263.255569, "message": "http://vagrantup.com/  -- I would likely look heavily at this.", "group_id": 81, "id": 63941}, {"user_id": 4514, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297311010.9180379, "message": "I was waiting to see someone mention emacs... I use Mac, Linux, and Windows desktops at home and at work, emacs lets me use the same familiar tools everywhere.", "group_id": 81, "id": 64583}, {"user_id": 4520, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297311099.440069, "message": "Hahaha", "group_id": 81, "id": 64591}, {"user_id": 1963, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297311362.2073109, "message": "vagrant will do it for you", "group_id": 81, "id": 64615}, {"user_id": 4512, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297311050.876076, "message": "I use jedit for development", "group_id": 81, "id": 64587}, {"user_id": 1963, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297311022.89518, "message": "+1 for vagrant. writing from OSX and running in a linux VM has been easiest for me.", "group_id": 81, "id": 64584}, {"user_id": 1376, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297311096.0914409, "message": "@statico quitter.", "group_id": 81, "id": 64590}, {"user_id": 1376, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297311299.4339459, "message": "@pmclanahan I'm totally going to inappropriately explore Vagrant.", "group_id": 81, "id": 64609}, {"user_id": 1376, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297311468.4448249, "message": "Thanks all for the suggestions.  I love options.", "group_id": 81, "id": 64625}, {"user_id": 1376, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297312229.823334, "message": "@statico I don't hate ;)", "group_id": 81, "id": 64713}, {"user_id": 4520, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297311128.729352, "message": "@benjaminws Y'know what did it for me? Perfect indentation in (a) CSS and (b) JavaScript inside <script> tags. Sold.", "group_id": 81, "id": 64593}, {"user_id": 1963, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297311171.8158309, "message": "new Komodo is pretty sweet. especially w/ improved django support", "group_id": 81, "id": 64596}, {"user_id": 4520, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297311580.930232, "message": "@benjaminws FWIW, a coworker uses PyCharm, a Python IDE built using IntelliJ. I was really, really impressed.", "group_id": 81, "id": 64645}, {"user_id": 4520, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297362631.882026, "user_id": 1715}], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297311043.029232, "message": "I switched to Emacs after 10 years of Vim. Totally worth it.", "group_id": 81, "id": 64586}, {"user_id": 1963, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297311364.0766261, "message": "so great", "group_id": 81, "id": 64616}, {"user_id": 1398, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297310818.242306, "message": "Textmates", "group_id": 81, "id": 64568}, {"user_id": 3946, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297311120.854403, "message": "I didn't mention it because I didn't want to fight :O", "group_id": 81, "id": 64592}, {"user_id": 3946, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297310934.0867901, "message": "What kind of emacs is that?", "group_id": 81, "id": 64578}, {"user_id": 1376, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297311220.389225, "message": "@statico well good on ya.  Honestly, I don't think my muscle memory would let me switch.  My fingers would revolt and shrivel up.", "group_id": 81, "id": 64601}, {"user_id": 4514, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297311234.011847, "message": "@statico Same here, used vim for years and thought it was excellent, figured I'd give emacs another shot since all the old gurus rave about it... they're right. Emacs ftw", "group_id": 81, "id": 64603}, {"user_id": 521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297311325.59568, "message": "+1 for textmate + homebrew + virtualenv", "group_id": 81, "id": 64611}, {"user_id": 1963, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297311352.1165061, "message": "@benjaminws yeah. I was building VMs like a sucker.", "group_id": 81, "id": 64614}, {"user_id": 4520, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297311273.928827, "message": "@benjaminws True. I still type the wrong keys, and Emacs text-editing ability isn't up to Vim's sometimes. I miss the \"delete in\" prefixes and repeating the last thing with the dot key.", "group_id": 81, "id": 64606}, {"user_id": 1376, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297311442.350261, "message": "@statico dot ftw", "group_id": 81, "id": 64619}, {"user_id": 4520, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297311543.3084271, "message": "Yeah, I know using Emacs isn't cool. Despite the anti-aliasing it still feels like I've put a saddle on a dinosaur. But it's just so damned useful...", "group_id": 81, "id": 64640}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297314837.986057, "user_id": 960}], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297313564.6015601, "message": "(As a user of both who identifies more with Python, it's slightly saddening to see that almost all the language-agnostic OS X hacking tools (homebrew, vagrant etc) are in Ruby...heh)", "group_id": 81, "id": 64987}, {"user_id": 653, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297312751.269814, "user_id": 3019}, {"date_created": 1297312846.4211049, "user_id": 1376}, {"date_created": 1297313391.7319491, "user_id": 177}], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297312725.4309511, "message": "Having just had to rebuild my entire dev environment from a fresh OS install, I really cannot recommend Homebrew more. It turned a day long process into something that took maybe an hour.", "group_id": 81, "id": 64799}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297313554.1063471, "user_id": 1376}, {"date_created": 1297313928.6538689, "user_id": 209}], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297313476.5498741, "message": "big +1 for vagrant here, started using it last Friday, and by about Sunday it became an indispensable tool in my arsenal.", "group_id": 81, "id": 64968}, {"user_id": 1376, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297313609.853899, "message": "I would have Homebrews babies.", "group_id": 81, "id": 64997}, {"user_id": 3354, "stars": [{"date_created": 1298037664.5013659, "user_id": 5582}], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297314853.405, "message": "I've been using my MacBook for about six weeks now, and I am seriosuly thinking of going Linux.", "group_id": 81, "id": 65220}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297313552.6717961, "user_id": 1376}], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297313521.51964, "message": "And honestly, unless you've spent a lot of time using both homebrew and macports and found good reasons to prefer the latter, there's no excuse for not using homebrew for managing any OSX-local development.", "group_id": 81, "id": 64974}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297315411.962157, "message": "@holdenweb I'd still be on Linux but I got *so* sick of all the rough edges on everything, UI/consistency wise.", "group_id": 81, "id": 65346}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297316164.0979431, "message": "@davisp Yea, that. The combo of simple, Ruby based package definitions and Git/Github for distributing them is absolutely killer.", "group_id": 81, "id": 65607}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297316177.2634339, "message": "totally", "group_id": 81, "id": 65613}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297316316.827332, "message": "@holdenweb like @davisp I've only ever done OS X host + Linux guest, never the reverse.", "group_id": 81, "id": 65666}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297316120.8682821, "message": "The downfall of apt is that it lags by 6 months or so. While sometimes Hombrew acts up, it lets me pin things to bleeding edge DVCS's", "group_id": 81, "id": 65589}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297316135.7703359, "message": "Indeed. And while homebrew is excellent from a package creation/modification standpoint (and I say this having an intermediate understanding of how to make/change .debs) it's a far cry from the power of apt*/dpkg", "group_id": 81, "id": 65595}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297316228.0454531, "message": "Also, yes. being a dev, there's a fine balance between apt's \"make lots of shit work together\" and brew's \"make this shit build\" stances. I can't say that either is 'more' correct.", "group_id": 81, "id": 65635}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297316357.3778679, "message": "@davisp absolutely. I think both are great where they are typically found -- brew is more suited for a workstation and apt for a server", "group_id": 81, "id": 65680}, {"user_id": 594, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297315922.1710911, "message": "Yeah. I certainly prefer OSX over Windows wherever possible, and did give it a pretty fair shake as a dev OS to... I just keep coming back to Linux.", "group_id": 81, "id": 65486}, {"user_id": 594, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297315963.695034, "message": "*compile", "group_id": 81, "id": 65511}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297314944.3890319, "message": "On my linux laptop I have a script bound to a function key to yank the kernel module for the touchpad.", "group_id": 81, "id": 65245}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297315923.2220531, "message": "Seriously though, 90% of the time I am in Chrome or iTerm2, and everything else is a Unix terminal app I could be using regardless of platform :)", "group_id": 81, "id": 65487}, {"user_id": 594, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297315957.5902929, "message": "except when you reach for a quick \"sudo apt-get that-kinda-obscure-package-you-don't-really-want-to-install\"", "group_id": 81, "id": 65509}, {"user_id": 594, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297316328.8495829, "message": "@holdenweb they both work just fine", "group_id": 81, "id": 65671}, {"user_id": 594, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297315997.7360611, "message": "Also, the keyboard shortcut incompatibility drove me nuts", "group_id": 81, "id": 65532}, {"user_id": 594, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297315729.650681, "message": "@bitprophet I suppose that's a fair objection, but it's so much more damn productive for me.", "group_id": 81, "id": 65417}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297315804.7370181, "message": "@paulrmcmillan OS X has enough Unix goodness and power-user apps that I don't really miss very much from Linux, though it's certainly still not *quite* as flexible.", "group_id": 81, "id": 65439}, {"user_id": 594, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297316438.008251, "message": "@holdenweb OSX as a VM came before it was easy to install on vanilla X86 hardware", "group_id": 81, "id": 65709}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297316452.2853711, "message": "@bitprophet I'd definitely agree there.", "group_id": 81, "id": 65717}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297315859.6052561, "message": "These days, a large terminal window + tmux + vim + Chrome (+ Dropbox + 1password + google notifier + quicksilver + ...ok maybe this was a bad idea) == I'm good to go", "group_id": 81, "id": 65456}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297316027.918493, "message": "@paulrmcmillan Eh, most of the time I'm really surprised when I find a package missing from homebrew...though certainly Debian/Ubuntu's apt repos rule all.", "group_id": 81, "id": 65551}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297315986.365756, "message": "I'll note that I do very, very little dev *in* OS X, preferring to use VMs for anything even vaguely server related. If I \"had\" to set everything up natively I'd go freaking crazy.", "group_id": 81, "id": 65526}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297316183.691757, "message": "oops, not IRC", "group_id": 81, "id": 65617}, {"user_id": 594, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297316025.9867699, "message": "+1 for VMs, for sure. For a while I had one set up so I could boot natively or just fire it up with OSX underneath it. Borked it a bit ago though and haven't fixed it yet", "group_id": 81, "id": 65549}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299505299.12956, "user_id": 1243}], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297318090.612663, "message": "@zain I only switched recently; 256 colors (IIRC TerminalColors only boosted you to 16) and fullscreen are both pretty nice.", "group_id": 81, "id": 66115}, {"user_id": 594, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297316071.397238, "message": "Yeah, I'm very spoiled by that, for sure. It's the one thing that works better (if that's the sort of software you're into) than anything else out there as of yet", "group_id": 81, "id": 65573}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297316282.520128, "message": "@holdenweb I've not heard of anyone running OS X as a VM. Probably not impossible, but with numbers I bet Linux as a VM will probably treat you better.", "group_id": 81, "id": 65654}, {"user_id": 594, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297316351.9578171, "message": "@holdenweb I definitely do boot the opposite system from time to time virtually rather than restarting the machine", "group_id": 81, "id": 65677}, {"user_id": 594, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297316477.7708399, "message": "@bitprophet yeah, that's a fair complaint", "group_id": 81, "id": 65723}, {"user_id": 594, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297316164.2832251, "message": "yeah, depending on the package and so forth. It's cliche, but apt does bring a fair bit of stability to packages which otherwise would be at war with each other", "group_id": 81, "id": 65609}, {"user_id": 3354, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297316212.572938, "message": "I think I'd really rather run OSX as a virtual under Linux. Is that practical on a 4GB machine? Guess under Linux I could use VirtualBox, which is pretty lightweight.", "group_id": 81, "id": 65629}, {"user_id": 8, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297317438.7632129, "message": "+ visor", "group_id": 81, "id": 65959}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297316400.189743, "message": "though I do occasionally wish apt offered easier package tweaking, in the vein of brew or eg Arch's pacman", "group_id": 81, "id": 65689}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297316267.242871, "message": "@paulrmcmillan Agree. apt is a good example of needing complexity to effect power. it's got a ton of moving parts but you can do *so much* with it. and I'm still very much at the intermediate level with it, even after 10 years.", "group_id": 81, "id": 65649}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297316434.7040541, "message": "having to run five+ different programs just to try building a stock .deb against a newer upstream is...not really that fun", "group_id": 81, "id": 65706}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297316437.0476141, "message": "but I think I am getting OT", "group_id": 81, "id": 65707}, {"user_id": 3354, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297316351.07078, "message": "Cool, thanks for the information!", "group_id": 81, "id": 65676}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297318129.4003961, "message": "I also never managed to form a visor habit, partly because I never don't have a terminal window open.", "group_id": 81, "id": 66136}, {"user_id": 8, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297317431.7354629, "message": "why iTerm instead of Terminal + TerminalColours?", "group_id": 81, "id": 65954}, {"user_id": 1715, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297362683.07375, "message": "@statico Same here.  Switched after about 10 years. Sad I didn't switch earlier. :)", "group_id": 81, "id": 72474}, {"user_id": 1715, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297363058.3638761, "message": "I use vimpulse though, so I get the vim modal editing as well :)", "group_id": 81, "id": 72511}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297364423.8481829, "message": "i've heard a few different techniques and i'm not exactly happy with any.", "group_id": 81, "id": 72666}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297364394.1114111, "message": "freebsd ports rules all in that brew vs. apt talk. apt gives me greatsadness.", "group_id": 81, "id": 72660}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297364260.8677311, "message": "I just can't get over all of Emacs' chording, vimpulse/vipermode or no :( my hands hurt enough as it is.", "group_id": 81, "id": 72642}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297364285.812516, "message": "and I have no compelling reasons to switch, other than a vague promise of stabler syntax highlighting.", "group_id": 81, "id": 72644}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297364408.169323, "message": "brew users: how do you handle multiple versions of python testing?", "group_id": 81, "id": 72663}, {"user_id": 592, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297366715.722136, "message": "+1 for vagrant up", "group_id": 81, "id": 73387}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1297368759.5901141, "message": "@jacob I'm fortunate that I only need what comes with 10.6 (python 2.6 and below) so I just use the appropriate binaries with virtualenv.", "group_id": 81, "id": 73690}, {"user_id": 1243, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1308926471.556385, "message": "@jacob Have you looked at Pythonbrew?", "group_id": 81, "id": 1476776}, {"user_id": 13496, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1308986778.8400719, "message": "TextMate with Django bundle FTW.", "group_id": 81, "id": 1483213}, {"user_id": 13496, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1308986691.132798, "message": "Does homebrew do an OK job with the notoriously painful installation of the python-mysql bindings?", "group_id": 81, "id": 1483209}, {"user_id": 36991, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1309094875.054162, "message": "+1 on TextMate with Terminal", "group_id": 81, "id": 1488812}, {"user_id": 15343, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1309098085.487489, "message": "PyCharm, virtualenv, ipython, and the occasional MacVim for a quick edit.", "group_id": 81, "id": 1489026}, {"user_id": 15343, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1309098162.576304, "message": "@shacker I haven't had any trouble on Mac OS X with python-mysql, and AFAIK the best way to install is like so: http://wiffu.com/getting-mysqldb-for-python-working-on-snow-leopard", "group_id": 81, "id": 1489030}, {"user_id": 15343, "stars": [{"date_created": 1309284896.663358, "user_id": 8391}, {"date_created": 1309286032.478327, "user_id": 1736}, {"date_created": 1309328916.152452, "user_id": 35597}, {"date_created": 1309604045.6059501, "user_id": 13912}], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1309098931.2079771, "message": "If you like TextMate try Sublime Text 2.", "group_id": 81, "id": 1489076}, {"user_id": 12747, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1309585403.6664469, "message": "homebrew vs macports?", "group_id": 81, "id": 1547051}, {"user_id": 27106, "stars": [{"date_created": 1309635487.3301101, "user_id": 28384}, {"date_created": 1309638943.5036991, "user_id": 15292}, {"date_created": 1309839869.7892489, "user_id": 209}, {"date_created": 1310158575.114171, "user_id": 4156}, {"date_created": 1310769875.3464611, "user_id": 7179}], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1309630827.9141581, "message": "I prefer homebrew", "group_id": 81, "id": 1548940}, {"user_id": 18845, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1309658957.4086461, "message": "Installing PIL still sucks on OS X here is a dead simple guide to doing it http://josh.gourneau.com/blog/2011/04/09/install-python-imaging-library-pil-on-os-x-106-snow-leopard/", "group_id": 81, "id": 1550562}, {"user_id": 257, "stars": [{"date_created": 1309720534.9032841, "user_id": 26925}], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1309690921.253686, "message": "iterm2!", "group_id": 81, "id": 1551529}, {"user_id": 37496, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1309820373.7945099, "message": "SublimeText2  Vagrant  Puppet  Fabric  HomeBrew  Terminal Visor , trying out solarize colorings across the board.  Looking forward to seeing some bootstrap guides for this recipe on Lion", "group_id": 81, "id": 1562489}, {"user_id": 18845, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1309846426.8273959, "message": "For big stacks, I just run a linux VM", "group_id": 81, "id": 1565310}, {"user_id": 27890, "stars": [{"date_created": 1314715573.1410921, "user_id": 25264}], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1309848188.3442509, "message": "Getting all the dependencies running with homebrew is actually really simple. step-by-step guide on setting up python/PIL/mysql/postgres/postgis/... : https://gist.github.com/902296", "group_id": 81, "id": 1565413}, {"user_id": 13006, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1309874298.545795, "message": "Homebrew looks so cool i'm tempted. But when i first started to develop on the Mac back in 2005 fink looked really cool \"hey just like apt\". I've since avoided  things like this.  Why/how is homebrew different?", "group_id": 81, "id": 1567041}, {"user_id": 27213, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1309902181.644526, "message": "macports, virtualenv, pip, macvim, terminal", "group_id": 81, "id": 1570793}, {"user_id": 15269, "stars": [{"date_created": 1309968695.392158, "user_id": 28384}, {"date_created": 1310023962.8235791, "user_id": 26925}], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1309944391.1758211, "message": "Homebrew is awesome because it uses as much as possible of the existing tools / libraries already present on Mac OS X. Also every package version is installed into its own directory and symlinked from there into the respective system folder (e.g. /usr/bin) - this makes removing stuff much easier.", "group_id": 81, "id": 1574161}, {"user_id": 26925, "stars": [{"date_created": 1310694000.6470881, "user_id": 22943}, {"date_created": 1310838409.2318289, "user_id": 11647}, {"date_created": 1314715566.4517119, "user_id": 25264}], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1310024100.906898, "message": "I think Steve Losh's blog post is a very good description of a Django development environment http://stevelosh.com/blog/2011/06/django-advice/", "group_id": 81, "id": 1582790}, {"user_id": 26100, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1310070019.095582, "message": "I've been using macports for anything requiring c-library support (db drivers, PIL, lxml, gevent) and virtualenv+pip for everything else. I use IntelliJ Ultimate for my IDE. The Python plugin lags behind PyCharm, but you get many other languages supported too (PHP, ActionScript, Java, Lua, etc.). I've used Pythonbrew a little in CentOS and was very impressed.", "group_id": 81, "id": 1587517}, {"user_id": 13949, "stars": [{"date_created": 1310862394.049103, "user_id": 1243}], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1310527574.9932439, "message": "+1 Homebrew, virtualenv, pip, Komodo (vim if you know vim, but don't bother until you feel comfortable in your dev env), iterm (better than terminal)", "group_id": 81, "id": 1625752}, {"user_id": 13320, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1310554553.72789, "message": "If you like vim but want some of the autocomplete of Komodo Edit, you can turn on vi keys in Komodo and get the best of both worlds", "group_id": 81, "id": 1627561}, {"user_id": 37496, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3137, "date_created": 1310556495.8645711, "message": "Give sublimetext.com/2 a try     completion.  Vim links and sexy.    Python rewrite of textmate", "group_id": 81, "id": 1627666}]