convore.json/groups/django-community/is-django-any-moreless-scalable-than-rails-3-out-of-the-box/messages.json

[{"user_id": 4219, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6104, "date_created": 1297787811.1249101, "message": "Or are the pain points the same on both frameworks...", "group_id": 81, "id": 112615}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6104, "date_created": 1297788481.15571, "message": "I think the answer to the question you've asked will lie somewhere with which framework sets up indexes by default that align most closely with your access patterns.", "group_id": 81, "id": 112678}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6104, "date_created": 1297788209.7585821, "message": "define \"out of the box\" ?", "group_id": 81, "id": 112642}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6104, "date_created": 1297788234.9875, "message": "also, scalable by what metric? req/sec?", "group_id": 81, "id": 112646}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6104, "date_created": 1297788311.210665, "message": "I think your question is going to be very difficult to answer.", "group_id": 81, "id": 112659}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297798966.682102, "user_id": 141}, {"date_created": 1297803094.4266329, "user_id": 4156}, {"date_created": 1297807899.194725, "user_id": 374}], "topic_id": 6104, "date_created": 1297788421.6127119, "message": "My inclination is that there is no \"out-of-the-box\" when you're dealing with scaling issues.", "group_id": 81, "id": 112668}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297798786.4787569, "user_id": 3880}, {"date_created": 1297805303.579597, "user_id": 7722}], "topic_id": 6104, "date_created": 1297798210.091815, "message": "\"it's the database\"", "group_id": 81, "id": 114046}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297807076.9504509, "user_id": 4893}], "topic_id": 6104, "date_created": 1297805438.361048, "message": "@d0ugal a linear ratio (or sub) between hardware and req/s", "group_id": 81, "id": 115433}, {"user_id": 592, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6104, "date_created": 1297805321.233314, "message": "@alex what is?", "group_id": 81, "id": 115406}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6104, "date_created": 1297805449.8792579, "message": "Single machine req/s is nonsense in a scale discussion", "group_id": 81, "id": 115439}, {"user_id": 7378, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6104, "date_created": 1297803654.195282, "message": "*sends question to /dev/null/*", "group_id": 81, "id": 115082}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6104, "date_created": 1297805673.4984579, "message": "@alex I disagree. If my system needs to respond to 80,000 req/sec, and it can only respond to 40,000 req/sec.. then you could say the service \"doesn't scale\", as in \"does not scale to meet the needed req/sec\"", "group_id": 81, "id": 115509}, {"user_id": 7378, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6104, "date_created": 1297806169.2313049, "message": "@alex Agreed.", "group_id": 81, "id": 115617}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297804682.083313, "user_id": 1}], "topic_id": 6104, "date_created": 1297804463.9024651, "message": "@justinlilly req/s is not scale.  Good day sir.", "group_id": 81, "id": 115259}, {"user_id": 7378, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6104, "date_created": 1297805344.1615031, "message": "@alex is not webscale. K, thx, bai.", "group_id": 81, "id": 115412}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6104, "date_created": 1297805769.9773769, "message": "though I do understand the point you're trying to make.", "group_id": 81, "id": 115526}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297830633.171896, "user_id": 4581}, {"date_created": 1297875752.10783, "user_id": 6415}, {"date_created": 1297885759.4372699, "user_id": 594}], "topic_id": 6104, "date_created": 1297806003.1480801, "message": "I don't care what people say :)  scale != performance", "group_id": 81, "id": 115580}, {"user_id": 7378, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6104, "date_created": 1297805629.7923441, "message": "Can I buy a bigger better machine to put either on? Yes. Can I put an instance on multiple servers and load balance across? Yes. Can you connect to multiple dbs.. yes. Are you able to interface with a memcached/something else cluster? Yes. Can both be used out of the box in a really dumb way? Yes. Does that mean devs might make things less scaleable? Yes... etc etc etc", "group_id": 81, "id": 115487}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297830676.2393579, "user_id": 4581}], "topic_id": 6104, "date_created": 1297805812.9716949, "message": "I also think \"req/sec?\" is a legitimate question when someone asks \"does x scale more than y?\". To a lot of people, scaling is what ab or jmeter says.", "group_id": 81, "id": 115539}, {"user_id": 1147, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6104, "date_created": 1297808754.888334, "message": "+1 on scale != performance... two different things", "group_id": 81, "id": 116068}]