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[{"user_id": 1002, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297554097.109982, "user_id": 719}], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297553048.1406901, "message": "thanks; I have it installed now, so I can use it moving forward.", "group_id": 81, "id": 87887}, {"user_id": 1002, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297549816.649982, "message": "I was provided an old version of Debian  and the apt-get installs v 1.0.2 of Django. I'd like to get current. Is there a way to use apt-get and force it to install a later version?  Thanks, in advance.", "group_id": 81, "id": 87710}, {"user_id": 719, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297550357.037466, "message": "@leehinde You'd probably need to extend \"/etc/apt/sources.list\" and add additional repositories.", "group_id": 81, "id": 87725}, {"user_id": 719, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297550562.0092061, "message": "@leehinde You could go the \"easy_install\" > \"pip install\" route instead. Unless you have a reason not to.", "group_id": 81, "id": 87747}, {"user_id": 719, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297550720.7080841, "message": "Fair enough. I suspect it'd be more straightforward though.", "group_id": 81, "id": 87763}, {"user_id": 7129, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297551650.9428589, "message": "Judging by the Python and Django version you mention, you are running Debian Lenny. You can specify sqeeze's sources in /etc/apt/sources.lst and then just `apt-get install python-django`. Alternatively you can find the .deb directly the the mirrors and `dpkg -i` it: it has no real dependencies. Cannot recommend mixed Debian and pip/easy_whatever though.", "group_id": 81, "id": 87842}, {"user_id": 719, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297550457.3257191, "message": "@leehinde Just wondering. What version of python do you have installed?", "group_id": 81, "id": 87733}, {"user_id": 1002, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297550459.5465889, "message": "cool, a starting point. Thanks", "group_id": 81, "id": 87734}, {"user_id": 1002, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297550486.8178909, "message": "python is 2.5.2", "group_id": 81, "id": 87736}, {"user_id": 1002, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297550542.709841, "message": "so, per this: http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&keywords=python-django", "group_id": 81, "id": 87746}, {"user_id": 1002, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297550620.9169869, "message": "no, reason not to, I use that on my Mac, but I'm not terribly (i.e., not at all) debian savy. So, I was -at first - trying to play the hand I was dealt.", "group_id": 81, "id": 87755}, {"user_id": 1002, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297551853.717659, "message": "It is Lenny.", "group_id": 81, "id": 87857}, {"user_id": 1002, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297551576.6507699, "message": "pip's installed. :-)", "group_id": 81, "id": 87836}, {"user_id": 1002, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297552123.4779229, "message": "So, pip install django worked, and I'm able to move on to the next learning opportunity. Thanks...", "group_id": 81, "id": 87862}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297554007.331403, "user_id": 141}], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297552983.5228381, "message": "@leehinde Unless there is a specific need *not* to (and you'd know if there was :)), installing Python libraries via pip is the way to go", "group_id": 81, "id": 87882}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297553015.5980201, "message": "works the same on any Unix platform, allows far greater control over which releases of the library you want to install, etc", "group_id": 81, "id": 87886}, {"user_id": 1736, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297562086.5105369, "message": "Also installing each project into a virtualenv is usually for the best so you don't have to deal with multi-version conflicts.", "group_id": 81, "id": 87986}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297618468.4940181, "message": "that'll get you a pretty out o fdate venv, not sure how recent the pip will be", "group_id": 81, "id": 92282}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297618477.2286739, "message": "though you might be able to `pip install -U pip`", "group_id": 81, "id": 92283}, {"user_id": 927, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297618396.9961851, "message": "What @coderanger said: use APT to install Python, pip and virtualenv and then manage everything else inside your virtualenv with the possible exception of modules like database drivers, lxml, etc. which are stable and have heavy C dependencies stable", "group_id": 81, "id": 92278}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297618455.1145401, "message": "I wouldn't even necessarily apt install pip/venv", "group_id": 81, "id": 92281}, {"user_id": 927, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297618660.8943551, "message": "It's not recent but I've been lazy about doing the \"pip install -U pip\" and have yet to have a problem on simple projects.", "group_id": 81, "id": 92302}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297618480.87763, "message": "and then use the updated pip to install venv", "group_id": 81, "id": 92284}, {"user_id": 1736, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297622888.816587, "message": "On my dev boxes I will usually install a few things globally to make life easier, ipython, unittest2, etc.", "group_id": 81, "id": 92824}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297622331.9076869, "message": "I aptitude install python-setuptools, sudo easy_install pip, then pip install virtualenv+wrapper and any other \"global\" tools I need (like hg for the occasional hg-using requirement)", "group_id": 81, "id": 92743}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297622339.3821261, "message": "and then everything else goes into virtualenvs", "group_id": 81, "id": 92745}, {"user_id": 6415, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297629091.5434239, "message": "Distribute is not package in distribs but it can be install with distribute_setup.py See details on distribute's Pypi page http://pypi.python.org/pypi/distribute", "group_id": 81, "id": 93175}, {"user_id": 6415, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297630727.1414759, "user_id": 4156}], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297628948.7602749, "message": "Like @bitprophet does except I don't install python-setuptools and use distribute instead. Distribute", "group_id": 81, "id": 93162}, {"user_id": 1736, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297631906.648042, "message": "@davidpaccoud Oddly enough, on current versions of Ubuntu python-setuptools actually is Distribute.", "group_id": 81, "id": 93787}, {"user_id": 6415, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297633521.9317851, "message": "@coderanger Really? This is quite misleading. Do you know which version made the switch?", "group_id": 81, "id": 93994}, {"user_id": 1736, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297633608.635745, "message": "Not off hand", "group_id": 81, "id": 94009}, {"user_id": 1736, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297633685.2599211, "message": "Looking at the package sources, lucid.", "group_id": 81, "id": 94015}, {"user_id": 6415, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297633905.0009439, "message": "Ok, thanks. I'll definitely check that.", "group_id": 81, "id": 94036}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297696163.7240291, "message": "Actually just checked my current machine and I skipped the global pip installation entirely. Don't need it, everything goes in a virtualenv anyway, and virtualenvs come with pip.", "group_id": 81, "id": 100432}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297695858.148237, "message": "Apt-installed pips tend to be quite old.", "group_id": 81, "id": 100359}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297696079.931694, "user_id": 5582}, {"date_created": 1297697100.911341, "user_id": 4156}, {"date_created": 1297706642.551369, "user_id": 6415}], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297696066.572716, "message": "@alex I wouldn't do that; the apt-installed pip will get uninstalled and replaced with the pip-installed pip, in a different location. Meaning apt thinks it's got pip installed, but you've (outside of apt) removed those files. Removing apt-installed files outside of apt == yuck.", "group_id": 81, "id": 100401}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297695841.7346611, "message": "I do the same as @bitprophet - get setuptools/distribute via apt, then easy_install pip, pip install virtualenv, and everything else in a virtualenv.", "group_id": 81, "id": 100356}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4621, "date_created": 1297695919.8040781, "message": "@carljm would it work to apt-get install pip && pip install -U pip", "group_id": 81, "id": 100376}]