convore.json/groups/django-community/when-do-you-use-django-and-for-what/messages.json

[{"user_id": 5388, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297592073.665653, "message": "When do you use Django (over Rails for example), and for what?", "group_id": 81, "id": 89498}, {"user_id": 2987, "stars": [{"date_created": 1298279109.1845081, "user_id": 14024}], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297592555.668473, "message": "@ericflo groovy. the transparency in convore is inspiring and admirable.", "group_id": 81, "id": 89546}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297592197.529053, "message": "We use it for Convore", "group_id": 81, "id": 89509}, {"user_id": 141, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297592275.016562, "message": "i use it over Rails always and for web sites, so i can write the python instead of the ruby", "group_id": 81, "id": 89518}, {"user_id": 141, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297592357.7270811, "message": "i keep trying to find a microframework for tiny projects, since Django can seem like overkill for them sometimes", "group_id": 81, "id": 89527}, {"user_id": 141, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297593114.6514831, "message": "which is probably what i'd try next since i haven't gotten comfortable with any of the tiny frameworks", "group_id": 81, "id": 89597}, {"user_id": 2987, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297592273.3914509, "message": "@ericflo what do you use postrgres for inside of #convore? auth? I would imagine sessions might be faster in redis. Curious to know how you split it up.", "group_id": 81, "id": 89516}, {"user_id": 5388, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297593531.413357, "message": "oh.. I need to hunt down some good resources on how to enable CGI/python scripts for Nginx. I'm at a loss so far. :(", "group_id": 81, "id": 89673}, {"user_id": 141, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297593628.7496691, "message": "so i think you use it like mongrel but i'm not really familiar", "group_id": 81, "id": 89692}, {"user_id": 2987, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297592490.133405, "message": "@markpasc agreed. flask is a good second option if you are not in need of such a robust tool as django.", "group_id": 81, "id": 89540}, {"user_id": 141, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297592669.4687691, "message": "@alfredchiesa yep! and i've used itty a couple times and looked at bottle.", "group_id": 81, "id": 89560}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297724037.141418, "user_id": 4937}], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297592390.48212, "message": "@alfredchiesa PostgreSQL is the canonical source of data for all messages, users, groups, etc.  We use Redis for sessions, and for all of the live updating pub/sub stuff.", "group_id": 81, "id": 89531}, {"user_id": 141, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297593224.5474119, "message": "once you have a python development environment Django installs pretty easily, i think", "group_id": 81, "id": 89612}, {"user_id": 5388, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297593225.5438681, "message": "(Should remove Nginx and go back to Apache - I don't have enough free time to get gritty with the configs. ):", "group_id": 81, "id": 89613}, {"user_id": 5388, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297593270.9114909, "message": "@markpasc care to elaborate on the PDE?", "group_id": 81, "id": 89621}, {"user_id": 141, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297653549.0370409, "user_id": 7451}], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297593511.769676, "message": "http://gunicorn.org/deploy.html", "group_id": 81, "id": 89669}, {"user_id": 141, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297592981.955992, "message": "i really like Flask's docs, and the design of http://flask.pocoo.org/ is nice", "group_id": 81, "id": 89588}, {"user_id": 5388, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297593049.5016739, "message": "@markpasc Thanks, itty looks pretty neat too!", "group_id": 81, "id": 89592}, {"user_id": 141, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297593061.960366, "message": "i think in another thread (can't find it) somebody suggested just making a wsgi app yourself with Routes and WebOb, but their docs are a little inscrutable", "group_id": 81, "id": 89594}, {"user_id": 141, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297593369.477107, "message": "for my public sites i'm using nginx + gunicorn too.", "group_id": 81, "id": 89639}, {"user_id": 5388, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297593163.9039831, "message": "Now I just have to try Flask, Bottle and Itty - they seem a lot easier to use than Django - at least when it comes to installing.", "group_id": 81, "id": 89602}, {"user_id": 141, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297593173.063338, "message": "hehe", "group_id": 81, "id": 89604}, {"user_id": 141, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297593545.316783, "message": "yeah", "group_id": 81, "id": 89674}, {"user_id": 2987, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297593254.8598731, "message": "@Zolomon gunicorn . . . . go green amigo.", "group_id": 81, "id": 89616}, {"user_id": 141, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297593308.080056, "message": "i was thinking virtualenv + pip, not so much on deploying to a public site", "group_id": 81, "id": 89631}, {"user_id": 141, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297593566.904243, "message": "gunicorn is a separate web server that you can use as an application server, then proxy to with nginx", "group_id": 81, "id": 89679}, {"user_id": 5388, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297593849.96071, "user_id": 141}], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297593573.3856821, "message": "@markpasc <3 Thanks! That looks like a step in the right direction.", "group_id": 81, "id": 89681}, {"user_id": 141, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297593687.1889729, "message": "(or like http://unicorn.bogomips.org/ of course i guess)", "group_id": 81, "id": 89706}, {"user_id": 5388, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297596196.8271301, "message": "Cool", "group_id": 81, "id": 89991}, {"user_id": 7179, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297612247.9517839, "message": "I use Django for everything, from simple mobile server-based APIs, to robust websites. Never disappointed me. Sometimes I use Flask for smaller things and Node.js for experimental stuff.", "group_id": 81, "id": 91504}, {"user_id": 5778, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297623768.9182889, "message": "I use Django for just about any site I build nowadays.  Of course, I don't build sites nearly as much as I did a year or two ago... *sigh*", "group_id": 81, "id": 92871}, {"user_id": 9013, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297638888.5193961, "user_id": 141}], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297638171.4559989, "message": "For serving coffee at my campus. The webby parts of the student-run coffee shop is written in Django.", "group_id": 81, "id": 94419}, {"user_id": 2571, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297637714.2753551, "message": "We use it for our internal time tracking and reports", "group_id": 81, "id": 94378}, {"user_id": 7378, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297645300.3498399, "message": "I don't use it as much as I used to... but we use it at Glasses Direct. Django powers the site and makes calls out to several wsgi services in the background... which using Django for would be overkill (promotions, products, payment, mailservice etc). We have it all split across two data centers, with 2 load balancers (under a virtual IP) distributing load to 4 web servers that contains the django site stuff + services stack on each node. Outside of work I use Django for small things mainly: sleep logging, prototypes etc.. nothing too major these days.", "group_id": 81, "id": 95100}, {"user_id": 7317, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297652487.8636341, "message": "We had to apply all sorts of custom patches in order to make it work", "group_id": 81, "id": 95802}, {"user_id": 9307, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297654071.8236239, "message": "mullas: Django on Google App Engine uses the Python backend, not the Java one.  If you're just starting out with App Engine, I'd recommend using Google's builting 'webapp' framework instead of Django.  You'll probably get 'Hello World' running more quickly that way.", "group_id": 81, "id": 95932}, {"user_id": 7317, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297652464.180387, "message": "Sql Server is a great database, but the django backends for it are very immature", "group_id": 81, "id": 95799}, {"user_id": 9347, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297653080.3434379, "message": "Hey, I just started developing for Google AppEngine. I read in the documentation that we can use Django with it. Not sure how I would go about this since I'm still picking up the ABCs of web development with Java. Could somebody summarize it's use in a sentence providing me with an analogy to illustrate? Thanks.", "group_id": 81, "id": 95868}, {"user_id": 7317, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297652403.129689, "message": "I am using it over Windows Server, IIS and Sql Server", "group_id": 81, "id": 95792}, {"user_id": 56, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297654622.5151279, "message": "We use Django for http://lanyrd.com/", "group_id": 81, "id": 95984}, {"user_id": 3354, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297660994.2840199, "message": "@markpasc take a look at Pyramid - it's lighter in weight and allows you more component choice.", "group_id": 81, "id": 96384}, {"user_id": 4936, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297667884.5637629, "message": "We use it for LFS (Shop - http://www.getlfs.com) and LFC (CMS - http://www.lfcproject.com).", "group_id": 81, "id": 96811}, {"user_id": 9692, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297673073.207233, "message": "I use it for scientific data, to plug a common restful service on top of many legacy databases.", "group_id": 81, "id": 97169}, {"user_id": 141, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297672642.7545919, "message": "@holdenweb thanks! i looked a couple times and have yet to try it, true.", "group_id": 81, "id": 97125}, {"user_id": 9650, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297672782.422467, "message": "We create a samples database for our nanotech research institute.  The institut created even a full-time position for it.", "group_id": 81, "id": 97139}, {"user_id": 7501, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297691772.9712789, "message": "I use Django for almost every new web application. I also have django ORM distributed in wxpython desktop apps and legacy webapps based on a homemade framework (models + views + urls were too much to switch in block, doing one at a time)", "group_id": 81, "id": 99473}, {"user_id": 9219, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297691952.668232, "message": "At work we use it for a bunch of travel eCommerce sites including http://www.gapadventures.com, http://www.discoveryadventures.com and the adventure tour section of http://www.expedia.ca and http://www.expedia.com.au", "group_id": 81, "id": 99521}, {"user_id": 7151, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297720765.2682121, "message": "I use it for a few personal sites, and many of our sites @mozilla", "group_id": 81, "id": 106241}, {"user_id": 7151, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297731003.7611139, "user_id": 141}, {"date_created": 1297742332.005754, "user_id": 209}], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1297720819.4977131, "message": "I find microframeworks not incredibly useful since I can quickly hit the ground running with Django.", "group_id": 81, "id": 106251}, {"user_id": 12747, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1298257999.3341849, "message": "I also use it for scientific data, but am trying to use it for real time display (along with orbited).  We have a prototype, but I hope to have something better out this summer.  It's a bit hard though because our sysadmins are more from a PHP background and are worried about security vulnerabilities.  Does anyone know if there has been a formal audit of Django (1.2 for example)?", "group_id": 81, "id": 155842}, {"user_id": 12817, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4759, "date_created": 1298280209.5455999, "message": "@mullas In addition to what @btubbs said, you can't use Django's ORM on GAE, so anything you read about models and databases in the Django docs won't work - you have to use GAE's database. If that weren't the case I'd be hosting heaps of stuff on there.", "group_id": 81, "id": 157318}]