convore.json/groups/django-community/wordpress-release-31-codename-django/messages.json

[{"user_id": 2024, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298475732.747685, "message": "@micrypt I actually see pretty high potential for confusion. LOTS of people just assume that WordPress is the way to go for websites. When I was freelancing it was quite common for me to have to explain what Django was in terms of what the client knew about WordPress. That conversation just got a bit harder.", "group_id": 81, "id": 188153}, {"user_id": 5981, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298475996.8208389, "message": "well, if we're worried about ambiguity in search results, we're just making things worse talking about it. These convores are indexable, right?", "group_id": 81, "id": 188195}, {"user_id": 719, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298475525.3120029, "message": "Wordpress does have a history of using jazz musicians as code names.", "group_id": 81, "id": 188121}, {"user_id": 1126, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298475672.4405961, "message": "in the post they said they have no plans to deviate from php", "group_id": 81, "id": 188142}, {"user_id": 719, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298476009.9674499, "message": "@gsiegman @joshourisman Eek! True.", "group_id": 81, "id": 188198}, {"user_id": 719, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298475431.9970419, "message": "@skohler You can haz no markup language.", "group_id": 81, "id": 188111}, {"user_id": 14024, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298475153.262373, "message": "Thoughts on this one?", "group_id": 81, "id": 188078}, {"user_id": 14024, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298475298.1521699, "message": "[quote]\nThe long-awaited fourteenth release of WordPress is now available. WordPress 3.1 \u201cDjango\u201d is named in honor of the jazz guitarist Django Reinhardt. Version 3.1 is available for download, or you can update from within your dashboard.\n[/quote]", "group_id": 81, "id": 188097}, {"user_id": 1126, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298475664.3450291, "message": "they are aware", "group_id": 81, "id": 188141}, {"user_id": 1126, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298475677.142596, "message": "with a link to djangoproject.com", "group_id": 81, "id": 188144}, {"user_id": 5981, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298475810.2177441, "message": "see - I was about to release a custom spin of fedora, code name \"OSX11\"", "group_id": 81, "id": 188166}, {"user_id": 5981, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298475837.6475091, "message": "maybe I'll just sit on that for a while", "group_id": 81, "id": 188169}, {"user_id": 5981, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298475843.581847, "message": "come back to it later", "group_id": 81, "id": 188170}, {"user_id": 2024, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298475982.643645, "message": "@micrypt the fact that it's just the codename certainly reduces the potential confusion, but (especially now that it's causing such a ruckus) it's not inconceivable that you mention Django to a potential client, they google it, and think you're talking about WordPress.", "group_id": 81, "id": 188191}, {"user_id": 5981, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298476211.481298, "message": "@skohler, oh snap", "group_id": 81, "id": 188223}, {"user_id": 1126, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298475430.6026759, "message": "\"Django is a registered trademark of the Django Software Foundation.\"", "group_id": 81, "id": 188109}, {"user_id": 14024, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298475267.7475629, "message": "See: http://wordpress.org/news/2011/02/threeone/", "group_id": 81, "id": 188092}, {"user_id": 2024, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298475375.6219831, "message": "At the very least, it's a really fucked up move... Is there a trademark on Django or anything?", "group_id": 81, "id": 188104}, {"user_id": 1126, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298475436.079252, "message": "ruh-roh", "group_id": 81, "id": 188112}, {"user_id": 1132, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298477060.2918191, "message": "Matt has posted a response on HN: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2254466", "group_id": 81, "id": 188298}, {"user_id": 719, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298475598.7862699, "message": "Wordpress 3.0 was named after \"Thelonious Monk\". I'd doubt there'd be any confusion anyway.", "group_id": 81, "id": 188132}, {"user_id": 1126, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298475620.2671101, "message": "they could have used his last name", "group_id": 81, "id": 188134}, {"user_id": 719, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298475910.8822291, "message": "@joshourisman Interesting... most people I've come across have no idea what Wordpress code names are. That would be troubling.", "group_id": 81, "id": 188179}, {"user_id": 3261, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298475932.5260069, "message": "strange sure", "group_id": 81, "id": 188181}, {"user_id": 12775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298475993.8683331, "message": "It's pretty obvious what they're doing. In the near future, people searching for django with the hopes of building a blog will get search results linking them to Wordpress", "group_id": 81, "id": 188194}, {"user_id": 12775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298476071.0113621, "message": "...and Wordpress 3.3 - Codename: Node", "group_id": 81, "id": 188206}, {"user_id": 14024, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298476260.9405489, "message": "So is djangowordpress.com taken? Anyone registering it?", "group_id": 81, "id": 188230}, {"user_id": 5582, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298476282.0665021, "message": "*phew* No jazz musicians called 'Flask', 'AppEngine', 'web.py' or 'Bottle'. And I guess the Ruby frameworks are safe, too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_jazz_musicians", "group_id": 81, "id": 188232}, {"user_id": 5582, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298475629.0393281, "message": "why couldn't they use the full name? or just the last name?", "group_id": 81, "id": 188135}, {"user_id": 6396, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298475800.761549, "message": "This is ridiculous; why do it? What they can possibly hope to gain from the confusion caused by this.", "group_id": 81, "id": 188164}, {"user_id": 5582, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298475646.8273859, "message": "I can't believe that they were not _aware_ that the name is taken", "group_id": 81, "id": 188136}, {"user_id": 12775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298476450.561938, "message": "Hacker News 1.1 - Codename: Convore?", "group_id": 81, "id": 188247}, {"user_id": 14024, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298476531.3013561, "message": "But seriously though - what were / are they tinking? Can anyone get Matt on the convore ... I mean phone?", "group_id": 81, "id": 188254}, {"user_id": 1126, "stars": [{"date_created": 1298476134.7090471, "user_id": 2024}, {"date_created": 1298476157.59372, "user_id": 14024}], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298476081.8504391, "message": "iOS 5: Codename Android", "group_id": 81, "id": 188210}, {"user_id": 14024, "stars": [{"date_created": 1298476205.6185091, "user_id": 12775}, {"date_created": 1298476325.5021181, "user_id": 6396}, {"date_created": 1298478494.0781491, "user_id": 5195}, {"date_created": 1298479288.5370021, "user_id": 8746}, {"date_created": 1298498974.2938969, "user_id": 3645}], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298476188.4926791, "message": "Django release 1.3 codename: Wordpress?", "group_id": 81, "id": 188220}, {"user_id": 1916, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298475968.3816819, "message": "@micrypt Google knows", "group_id": 81, "id": 188189}, {"user_id": 14024, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298476021.4223869, "message": "I don't think it's too big of a deal if they used the full name Django Reinhardt. But just using Django is somehow confusing, isn't it?", "group_id": 81, "id": 188201}, {"user_id": 12775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298476226.257102, "message": "@skohler - absolutely", "group_id": 81, "id": 188226}, {"user_id": 12775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298476007.4308839, "message": "I can see Wordpress 3.2 being Codename: Rails", "group_id": 81, "id": 188197}, {"user_id": 15180, "stars": [{"date_created": 1298475987.6037469, "user_id": 2024}, {"date_created": 1298475996.05914, "user_id": 6396}, {"date_created": 1298478469.8491769, "user_id": 5195}], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298475965.70525, "message": "Me: We do Django. Client: Oh.. you do wordpress and are up-to-date", "group_id": 81, "id": 188187}, {"user_id": 14024, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298476492.4444959, "message": "ICQ 7.5 - codename: Skype?", "group_id": 81, "id": 188252}, {"user_id": 15261, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298477129.086581, "message": "Jacob just sent this on Twitter - http://twitter.com/#!/jacobian/statuses/40441222669533184", "group_id": 81, "id": 188302}, {"user_id": 2024, "stars": [{"date_created": 1298476342.267771, "user_id": 14024}], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298476314.896893, "message": "There was the famous Chicago Jazz pianist named Google O'Malley...", "group_id": 81, "id": 188237}, {"user_id": 1132, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298477293.8529639, "message": "Jacob also responded on HN. Hopefully this will be the end of it. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2254513", "group_id": 81, "id": 188313}, {"user_id": 1132, "stars": [{"date_created": 1298478411.9887781, "user_id": 2}], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298477420.177176, "message": "I wonder which came first; Wordpress 2.0 Ellington, or http://www.ellingtoncms.com/", "group_id": 81, "id": 188320}, {"user_id": 14024, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298477473.117244, "message": "Fast move from the Wordpress people aka Matt.", "group_id": 81, "id": 188323}, {"user_id": 14024, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298477297.2299891, "message": "Matt on HN: And just updated the post to change the codename to \"Reinhardt,\" just as a sign of good faith and before anyone else gets the wrong idea.", "group_id": 81, "id": 188314}, {"user_id": 2, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298477956.1609199, "message": "I can't believe the drama is already over", "group_id": 81, "id": 188356}, {"user_id": 14024, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298478299.998316, "message": "@leah Nice one - thought so, too.", "group_id": 81, "id": 188379}, {"user_id": 15261, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298477333.148499, "message": "Cool. Issue resolved. =)", "group_id": 81, "id": 188318}, {"user_id": 2, "stars": [{"date_created": 1298478047.51633, "user_id": 719}, {"date_created": 1298478054.9289269, "user_id": 12775}, {"date_created": 1298478302.8905699, "user_id": 14024}, {"date_created": 1298478444.904865, "user_id": 275}, {"date_created": 1298479804.466085, "user_id": 1}], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298477968.6638801, "message": "I was hoping that it would keep the morning exciting for a few hours longer", "group_id": 81, "id": 188357}, {"user_id": 12775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298478051.4096069, "message": "@leah this is what happens when decent people make honest mistakes. I must admit though - I prefer to see things drag out just a liiiiiiitle bit longer", "group_id": 81, "id": 188361}, {"user_id": 2, "stars": [{"date_created": 1298483151.6778209, "user_id": 541}], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298478097.500783, "message": "yeah, both jacob and matt are too reasonable to keep a good internet fight going", "group_id": 81, "id": 188363}, {"user_id": 12775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298477605.271594, "message": "It's good to see", "group_id": 81, "id": 188327}, {"user_id": 12775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298477902.0671959, "message": "The HN thread really exploded in true Reddit style there for a while. This can't be a good thing.", "group_id": 81, "id": 188355}, {"user_id": 14024, "stars": [{"date_created": 1298478879.5160949, "user_id": 2}], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298478628.611773, "message": "I think this was a good use case to use Convore to discuss a topic! Convore rocks. ;-)", "group_id": 81, "id": 188436}, {"user_id": 12775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298478190.1173029, "message": "@leah should we have sent in @freakboy3742 to ask a few more questions?", "group_id": 81, "id": 188375}, {"user_id": 12775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298478741.9709499, "message": "@skohler I agree. It really is something to see the real-time updates flying in on a fast moving topic.", "group_id": 81, "id": 188459}, {"user_id": 13496, "stars": [{"date_created": 1298479878.2713759, "user_id": 1}, {"date_created": 1298499099.6263039, "user_id": 3645}, {"date_created": 1298503504.8718331, "user_id": 4491}, {"date_created": 1298531940.529856, "user_id": 4858}], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298479493.2149429, "message": "Looks like they've started referring to WP 3.1 as \"Rheinhardt\" http://wordpress.org/news/2011/02/threeone/ .  Good, but they srsly didn't see this coming?", "group_id": 81, "id": 188589}, {"user_id": 4748, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298479159.8072801, "message": "I love watching sane, rational adults resolve disputes on the internet by coming to reasonable compromises. At least, I think I do; I've only ever seen it this once.", "group_id": 81, "id": 188519}, {"user_id": 6396, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8333, "date_created": 1298479240.6439991, "message": "Reminds me of finer times when gentlemen still existed ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iJ7bs4mTUY", "group_id": 81, "id": 188530}]