convore.json/groups/django-community/wtf-is-this/messages.json

[{"user_id": 539, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297134985.063041, "message": "cool.", "group_id": 81, "id": 48684}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136232.1180241, "message": "(Eventually the realtime bits will probably move to Java, etc.)", "group_id": 81, "id": 48765}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297134058.9267571, "message": "http://gizmodo.com/ How horrible is that?", "group_id": 81, "id": 48634}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297134415.3740971, "message": "@asenchi nope :)", "group_id": 81, "id": 48658}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297134494.7959261, "message": "@justinlilly how can anyone use that site.", "group_id": 81, "id": 48664}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297135866.742672, "message": "@ericflo cool, sorry to interrupt topic :)", "group_id": 81, "id": 48745}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136264.9251001, "message": "Java?", "group_id": 81, "id": 48767}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297135880.9524319, "message": "@davisp Yeah, just eventlet.wsgi hosting the Django wsgi app", "group_id": 81, "id": 48746}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297136200.1886439, "user_id": 1}], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136162.2909529, "message": "Cool. If you run into issues with Gunicorn I know a guy who knows a guy that works on that", "group_id": 81, "id": 48764}, {"user_id": 539, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297134187.506937, "message": "Ouch.", "group_id": 81, "id": 48642}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297134280.645869, "message": "or the giant 1997 eye-candy logo?", "group_id": 81, "id": 48646}, {"user_id": 505, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297134515.6527231, "message": "@asenchi  @asenchi  @asenchi  @asenchi  @asenchi  @asenchi  @asenchi  @asenchi", "group_id": 81, "id": 48666}, {"user_id": 539, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297134955.7424459, "message": "eventlet, you mean gunicorn w/ eventlet?", "group_id": 81, "id": 48681}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297134430.972595, "user_id": 1}, {"date_created": 1297134511.590843, "user_id": 505}, {"date_created": 1297137280.122519, "user_id": 521}], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297134421.4020641, "message": "@ericflo Thank God. LOL", "group_id": 81, "id": 48659}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297135785.908843, "user_id": 216}], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297135771.4015961, "message": "I don't know why I didn't use gunicorn", "group_id": 81, "id": 48734}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297135777.2966111, "message": "I have a ticket open to switch to it, actually", "group_id": 81, "id": 48735}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297198622.100987, "user_id": 227}], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297135812.2375841, "message": "@ericflo the star moves when i got to click it, perhaps add 'reply' after the start when i hover over?", "group_id": 81, "id": 48736}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136338.907861, "message": "Oh, well, that makes sense then", "group_id": 81, "id": 48778}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136485.0957861, "message": "Really?", "group_id": 81, "id": 48792}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297134218.8453021, "message": "Are you referring to the giant ad that covers their main stories?", "group_id": 81, "id": 48644}, {"user_id": 539, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297134300.345118, "message": "how about the ridiculous scrolling (try wheeling inside the right 'frame'), and the absurd design?", "group_id": 81, "id": 48648}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136652.188725, "message": "@ericflo to do what, 500k on Java, or on PyPy?", "group_id": 81, "id": 48813}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136695.5318251, "message": "@bryan +1", "group_id": 81, "id": 48820}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297134288.075398, "message": "@justinlilly yes", "group_id": 81, "id": 48647}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297134346.264792, "message": "feels like an ipad site.", "group_id": 81, "id": 48650}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297134356.6312521, "message": "which is absurd to navigate with a mouse and scrollwheel.", "group_id": 81, "id": 48651}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297325742.618592, "user_id": 4546}], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297134357.3686521, "message": "Seriously, I haven't seen a website design that bad since http://webking.com", "group_id": 81, "id": 48652}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297134374.35746, "message": "I really don't think it's bad", "group_id": 81, "id": 48653}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297134401.8476169, "message": "@ericflo that's what I said!  mind you I *never* go to gizmodo so I don't really give a shit", "group_id": 81, "id": 48655}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297134509.3324389, "message": "I'd rather read feeds without a reader.", "group_id": 81, "id": 48665}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297136277.4836569, "user_id": 507}, {"date_created": 1297136608.1667459, "user_id": 177}, {"date_created": 1297279246.2743969, "user_id": 216}, {"date_created": 1297286051.2043221, "user_id": 206}, {"date_created": 1297307135.938396, "user_id": 4328}, {"date_created": 1297360607.826736, "user_id": 4382}, {"date_created": 1298054469.7900939, "user_id": 13597}], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297134738.4399271, "message": "@jespern We're Python, Django, Eventlet, nginx, PostgreSQL, Celery, Redis, Solr. We're hosted on Rackspace, use S3 for images, and MailGun for our e-mail, Hudson for CI, Trac for ticketing", "group_id": 81, "id": 48675}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297134968.527334, "message": "Nope, just eventlet.wsgi", "group_id": 81, "id": 48682}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297135748.8230381, "user_id": 1}, {"date_created": 1297135776.7135301, "user_id": 216}], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297135748.0019259, "message": "I mean... totally rad.", "group_id": 81, "id": 48732}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297135764.038141, "user_id": 218}, {"date_created": 1297135780.776763, "user_id": 216}], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297135759.4473071, "message": "Sorry...", "group_id": 81, "id": 48733}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297135838.327086, "message": "to django", "group_id": 81, "id": 48742}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297135896.7026689, "message": "@asenchi Already posted it in feedback. you could star that topic... or rather.. star the topic where I request starring topics... oh wait. #meta", "group_id": 81, "id": 48747}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297135909.7106121, "message": "@davisp For the live endpoint, I wrote a pure wsgi app, not using Django, and that's hosted using eventlet.wsgi too", "group_id": 81, "id": 48748}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297135972.516458, "message": "I was actually starting to wonder if you were using node.js though", "group_id": 81, "id": 48753}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297135975.1399829, "message": "or an erlang thing", "group_id": 81, "id": 48754}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297134406.1727281, "message": "It's basically this whole idea of a \"web app\" instead of a website, where it's all thick client, etc.", "group_id": 81, "id": 48656}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297134407.429637, "message": "@ericflo Are you the primary designer for convore?", "group_id": 81, "id": 48657}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297134425.745168, "message": "@asenchi that's almost as bad as http://havenworks.com", "group_id": 81, "id": 48660}, {"user_id": 539, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297134659.9473369, "message": "@ericflo what's your stack on convore?", "group_id": 81, "id": 48671}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136431.5756309, "message": "so... it's a mockery being destroyed by Oracle.", "group_id": 81, "id": 48784}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136563.942939, "message": "err mercilessly", "group_id": 81, "id": 48800}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136617.7731769, "message": "I've been reading up on it lately, i'd like to learn more of it", "group_id": 81, "id": 48808}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136663.011204, "message": "@davisp I promise not to cheat :)", "group_id": 81, "id": 48814}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297137506.309238, "message": "No", "group_id": 81, "id": 48868}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297137673.8011229, "message": "or a parallel one, or both :)", "group_id": 81, "id": 48880}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297134438.108639, "message": "which I might ad is a real website that gets updated and such.", "group_id": 81, "id": 48661}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297134468.651674, "message": "@justinlilly the webking guy is real also. He hosted his site at the company i used to work for. Which I might add also hosted zombo.com :)", "group_id": 81, "id": 48662}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297134552.351069, "message": "lol, yes?", "group_id": 81, "id": 48668}, {"user_id": 539, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297134907.6208489, "message": "why thank you :)", "group_id": 81, "id": 48680}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297135816.7772329, "message": "What're you actually even using for deployment?", "group_id": 81, "id": 48737}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297135818.957181, "message": "/me should probably move that into feedback", "group_id": 81, "id": 48739}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297135834.9899161, "message": "err", "group_id": 81, "id": 48741}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297135850.8156259, "message": "@asenchi Yeah we know, the reply thing is supposed to be an image, we just need to rasterize it.", "group_id": 81, "id": 48744}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136506.7588489, "message": "I can't say that I've seen numbers, and its definitely been about four years since I did any sort of Java programming", "group_id": 81, "id": 48795}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136547.640167, "message": "heh", "group_id": 81, "id": 48798}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136669.7573011, "message": "heh", "group_id": 81, "id": 48816}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297137479.5648451, "message": "But yeah, he did the CPython removal and it was apparently epically hard and didn't give much return", "group_id": 81, "id": 48864}, {"user_id": 229, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297137631.0250759, "message": "@davisp I'm sure there's things I'm not considering, but you'd definitely have to be careful with object initialization with that many active users. But I bet you could go pretty far.", "group_id": 81, "id": 48875}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297135751.5061619, "user_id": 1}, {"date_created": 1297135775.1800771, "user_id": 216}], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297135732.047009, "message": "NOT COOL", "group_id": 81, "id": 48730}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297135833.16519, "message": "Just a straight eventlet wsgi to gunicorn?", "group_id": 81, "id": 48740}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297135952.3383069, "message": "We just run like 8 of those processes per frontend", "group_id": 81, "id": 48749}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297135955.8284709, "message": "(the live ones)", "group_id": 81, "id": 48750}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297135961.867646, "message": "@ericflo I'll give you a pass then. I could see wanting to avoid the heavier bits for the realtime bits", "group_id": 81, "id": 48751}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297326745.860765, "user_id": 4546}], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136287.9160719, "message": "It's a programming language developed by Sun :)", "group_id": 81, "id": 48770}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136325.64171, "message": "s/developed/being destroyed/", "group_id": 81, "id": 48775}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136453.925184, "message": "Err, I should've said, \"What makes you say that vs something like eventlet/gevent/node.js/erlang?\"", "group_id": 81, "id": 48786}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136454.0434549, "message": "@ericflo Erlang doesn't compete?", "group_id": 81, "id": 48787}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136583.3127289, "message": "@alex re: Erlang performance, I find it much like anything else, can be quick if you know which pitfalls to avoid", "group_id": 81, "id": 48802}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297136648.921577, "user_id": 1}], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136611.274601, "message": "I've been looking into Go lately", "group_id": 81, "id": 48807}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297136647.913547, "user_id": 1}, {"date_created": 1297357514.9056909, "user_id": 6}], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136637.218013, "message": "Go is interesting to me also", "group_id": 81, "id": 48810}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136639.2855301, "message": "@alex That's not even a fair comparison.  The amount of domain knowledge to make that happen is just insane.", "group_id": 81, "id": 48811}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136681.002342, "message": "hrm, I think I've seen two bugs, can someone @reply me?", "group_id": 81, "id": 48817}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136755.636008, "message": "There it is", "group_id": 81, "id": 48825}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136760.8688691, "message": "haha, I just spammed the star button", "group_id": 81, "id": 48826}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136767.139282, "message": "Ohhh", "group_id": 81, "id": 48828}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136830.695632, "message": "So @mtrichardson I can has your java server?", "group_id": 81, "id": 48835}, {"user_id": 229, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297137148.1601081, "message": "I bet python could do 500k; the main ingredient wasn't Java, it was lowering memory usage in the kernel. But dealing with 500k connections efficiently in CPython would definitely be harder.", "group_id": 81, "id": 48850}, {"user_id": 229, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297137311.3842499, "message": "You'd definitely want something that did epoll at the bottom, and the server @cscotta built in Java makes very good use of threads for support tasks. I'm curious, though, how much of those would be unduly penalized by the GIL in practice.", "group_id": 81, "id": 48852}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297137421.739435, "message": "@robotadam Oh, I was assuming more turnover", "group_id": 81, "id": 48861}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136409.0488861, "message": "Really?", "group_id": 81, "id": 48782}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136503.0776379, "message": "http://urbanairship.com/blog/2010/08/24/c500k-in-action-at-urban-airship/", "group_id": 81, "id": 48794}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136542.8094239, "message": "I don't see a comparison with non JVM stuff", "group_id": 81, "id": 48797}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136665.2107699, "message": "@alex on PyPy", "group_id": 81, "id": 48815}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136725.4018021, "message": "Hrm. It seemed like I was getting a popup notification twice there. perhaps not", "group_id": 81, "id": 48823}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136804.5155389, "message": "Is there an issue tracker?", "group_id": 81, "id": 48832}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297137530.917774, "message": "@robotadam Ahh. My comment on the refcounting was from a note that I heard from someone or other doing similar things hitting limits on object creation/destruction", "group_id": 81, "id": 48869}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136028.9473209, "message": "Yeah the realtime bits will probably stay eventlet.wsgi, but I think our non-realtime bits will move to sync gunicorn", "group_id": 81, "id": 48759}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136324.810235, "message": "you suck sir!", "group_id": 81, "id": 48774}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136335.5700409, "message": "ah there you go... yep. D:", "group_id": 81, "id": 48777}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136476.0008249, "message": "@davisp Oh man, eventlet/gevent/node.js wouldn't hold a candle to Java for performance", "group_id": 81, "id": 48790}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136495.148473, "message": "maybe on CPython", "group_id": 81, "id": 48793}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136586.4202449, "message": "(Or node.js)", "group_id": 81, "id": 48803}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136606.6643491, "message": "heh, yeah it is", "group_id": 81, "id": 48805}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136610.24826, "message": "@ericflo like I said, show me some sauce and I'll make PyPy do it, come hell or high water", "group_id": 81, "id": 48806}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136649.9404271, "message": "@alex \"import mycext; mycext.run()\" is enough python to make it equivalent?", "group_id": 81, "id": 48812}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136707.6416121, "message": "@davisp test?", "group_id": 81, "id": 48821}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136799.66552, "message": "OK time to go home, BBL", "group_id": 81, "id": 48831}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136988.0731051, "message": "@ericflo Also, for 500K connections, there's also this article that I'm sure you've read: http://www.metabrew.com/article/a-million-user-comet-application-with-mochiweb-part-1", "group_id": 81, "id": 48843}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297137003.0140719, "message": "Also, double-tab completes break tab completes", "group_id": 81, "id": 48846}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297137349.8806551, "message": "(FYI I'm contemplating applying for PyPy GSOC with a task of removing the GIL)", "group_id": 81, "id": 48855}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297137437.6748519, "message": "@davisp Adam Olsen also worked on it and ultimately gave up too", "group_id": 81, "id": 48862}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297137624.561595, "message": "@davisp PyPy has an advantage here, I can implement this at the RPython level, have it work across the entire codebase, and then have the JIT remove locking", "group_id": 81, "id": 48874}, {"user_id": 229, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297137656.868248, "message": "but but but but. Let's start every sentence with but.", "group_id": 81, "id": 48878}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136308.6826749, "message": "s/Sun/Oracle/ :(", "group_id": 81, "id": 48773}, {"user_id": 207, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136344.1574309, "message": "s/programming language/mockery/", "group_id": 81, "id": 48779}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136386.816458, "message": "All that being said, if you want high performance web stuff without dealing with stack overflows, pointer math, and unsafe code, it's kind of the way to go IMO.", "group_id": 81, "id": 48780}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136453.457521, "message": "Not C#?", "group_id": 81, "id": 48785}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136471.2229149, "message": "Erlang's performance isn't really that good", "group_id": 81, "id": 48788}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136475.8243229, "message": "it's just massively concurrent", "group_id": 81, "id": 48789}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136537.0636611, "message": "Someone write me a small Java server, I'll write a PYthon equivilant and then percisiely optimize PyPy", "group_id": 81, "id": 48796}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136551.0073831, "message": "(Accepting funding on this task)", "group_id": 81, "id": 48799}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136582.4689181, "message": "@davisp Yeah, I'm just saying, 500k open connections, I'd like to see Python do that.", "group_id": 81, "id": 48801}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136602.099539, "message": "Yeah Erlang competes, but it's just...weird.", "group_id": 81, "id": 48804}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136633.1914101, "message": "*erlang that is.", "group_id": 81, "id": 48809}, {"user_id": 177, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297136695.2703941, "user_id": 1}], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136684.507894, "message": "I must say, what this conversation has turned into is a hell of a lot more interesting than the Gizmodo redesign. :applauds:", "group_id": 81, "id": 48818}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136691.2557039, "message": "@ericflo no, I'll write a normal Python equiv, and then do the optimizations in PyPy, so future servers benefit", "group_id": 81, "id": 48819}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136714.7452221, "message": "@alex curious, how much money you think you need?", "group_id": 81, "id": 48822}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136733.2591281, "message": "@asenchi No idea, I don't have a sense of the scope of the task at all ATM", "group_id": 81, "id": 48824}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136765.363708, "message": "I think he's doing that on purpose", "group_id": 81, "id": 48827}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136769.5762689, "message": "heh. gotchya", "group_id": 81, "id": 48829}, {"user_id": 177, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136817.467118, "message": "http://f.cl.ly/items/00101o1S0P0p1X0A2s2z/Screen%20shot%202011-02-07%20at%207.46.44%20PM.png", "group_id": 81, "id": 48833}, {"user_id": 177, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297136822.9837999, "message": "It's quantum @ericflo.", "group_id": 81, "id": 48834}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297137317.648299, "message": "@robotadam Though I tend to wonder if the refcount gc would get all crazy there", "group_id": 81, "id": 48853}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297137331.047797, "message": "@davisp why would refcounting matter?", "group_id": 81, "id": 48854}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297137351.4825649, "message": "that too. There was an article about Java threading and reducing thread stack allocations that allowed for insane numbers of threads", "group_id": 81, "id": 48857}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297137418.9452119, "message": "@davisp For CPython though right?", "group_id": 81, "id": 48860}, {"user_id": 229, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297137371.1257949, "message": "@davisp I think memory usage is pretty stable, since connections tend to be fairly long lived and there's a fixed number of support systems.", "group_id": 81, "id": 48858}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297137407.612129, "message": "@alex Talk to Mark Hammond who is @skippyhammond on Twitter. He did it. It didn't go very far.", "group_id": 81, "id": 48859}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297137448.198396, "message": "@alex Oh, missed the PyPy Gil part", "group_id": 81, "id": 48863}, {"user_id": 229, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297137480.7730911, "message": "Well, they do lose a connection fairly often as people move between networks, but it's more stable than a comet app would be. A good analogy would be IM.", "group_id": 81, "id": 48865}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297137833.3168719, "message": "@alex Was there more fall out after that? I just thought it was an intriguing middle ground when I read about it but I've not at all groked the GIL issues other than to say \"Shit gets weird\"", "group_id": 81, "id": 48886}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297137882.2285581, "message": "There was some neat stuff by the one group that patched the linux kernel that I can't remember the name of or what project it was for", "group_id": 81, "id": 48889}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297137492.060945, "message": "Did the BrainFuck scheduler patch ever get committed?", "group_id": 81, "id": 48867}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297137666.6391749, "message": "the hard work is writing a concurrent GC", "group_id": 81, "id": 48879}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297137915.2785571, "message": "But it was basically \"insert code to deal with page faults\" and it fixed up pointers to do pause-less GC", "group_id": 81, "id": 48890}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297138054.368309, "message": "@alex I think that's what I'm thinking of actually", "group_id": 81, "id": 48892}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297137947.6690099, "message": "Azul has a JVM that does something like that I think", "group_id": 81, "id": 48891}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297141064.7537379, "user_id": 216}], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297140985.5884621, "message": "In keeping with the topic, \"In fact, Membase, which has raised $15 million in funding, says that its core technology powers 18 of the top 20 largest websites.\"", "group_id": 81, "id": 48998}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297140989.148129, "message": "lolwhut?", "group_id": 81, "id": 48999}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297141056.0327489, "message": "Definitely a \"WTF is this...\"", "group_id": 81, "id": 49001}, {"user_id": 224, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297141057.4267709, "message": "are they trying to commercialize memcached or something?", "group_id": 81, "id": 49002}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297168472.7411399, "message": "To @alex's point earlier... I've heard some recent high-praise for C#. Anyone with experience care to comment?", "group_id": 81, "id": 49222}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297168967.202508, "message": "... in a new comment, perhaps?", "group_id": 81, "id": 49223}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297168971.5433819, "message": "s/comment/topic/", "group_id": 81, "id": 49224}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297173177.7760091, "message": "@justinlilly I mucked around with it a *very* small amount since a friend of mine's high school class was using it.  I wasn't overly impressed felt a lot like java.  I'm told there's nice stuff at the high-end though so I guess that's where the wins are.", "group_id": 81, "id": 49256}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297175634.5319569, "message": "@justinlilly A friend of mine uses C# daily and moved to it from Java (previous job). He claims it's considerably better than Java and really enjoys working in it.", "group_id": 81, "id": 49318}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297174891.1932759, "message": "There was a thread at work which was basically \"Every java programmer should learn about C# so you know what you're missing out on\"", "group_id": 81, "id": 49294}, {"user_id": 544, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297175456.9223499, "message": "Out here on the wild plains of the Web, we shrug off both those languages a lot ;)", "group_id": 81, "id": 49314}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297180000.041676, "message": "That should probably tell you something.", "group_id": 81, "id": 49342}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297186095.1640029, "message": "@davisp that \"considerably better than java\" just ain't that great", "group_id": 81, "id": 49357}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297187037.0171499, "message": "\"considerably better than java\" with regards to concurrency.", "group_id": 81, "id": 49359}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297187040.743902, "message": "Not that great?", "group_id": 81, "id": 49360}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297187053.511445, "message": "\"considerably better than java\" with regards to tool support", "group_id": 81, "id": 49361}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297187074.2699461, "message": "There is quite a lot that java has going for it, even if its not something you value highly.", "group_id": 81, "id": 49362}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297187188.0713339, "message": "I won't dispute concurrency, but half of the java tooling is to support how craptastic the language is", "group_id": 81, "id": 49363}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297187236.6227579, "message": "well, concurrency isn't even that interesting as a language feature, Java is a horrible language with a really good implementation", "group_id": 81, "id": 49364}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297187286.3153341, "message": "*shrug* Merely saying that something being \"better than java\" isn't a marker for failure. Its all about your frame of reference.", "group_id": 81, "id": 49365}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297187551.6386919, "message": "I am sure he could give details, but from a day to day \"spending time in and using X language\" C# has been a significant improvement according to him.", "group_id": 81, "id": 49366}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297187569.800477, "message": "invite him :)", "group_id": 81, "id": 49367}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297187584.6501491, "message": ":)", "group_id": 81, "id": 49368}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297191509.1814971, "message": "Granted there could be some improvements to the language to make more people appreciate/get excited about it.", "group_id": 81, "id": 49403}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297191475.1718299, "message": "@alex I'd disagree with that concurrency as a language feature isn't interesting. Erlang's process/supervision trees model is superb in my opinion", "group_id": 81, "id": 49401}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297191525.564276, "message": "I kinda like Go and its similarities, but its missing the supervision tree aspects.", "group_id": 81, "id": 49405}, {"user_id": 561, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297191623.2435219, "message": "@davisp Agree. It's really nice when components can crash independently and the built-in supervisor behavior is siiick.", "group_id": 81, "id": 49409}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297195440.7062819, "message": "i swear i'll learn erlang and scala by the end of the year and be terrible at both. hurray for solid resolutions!", "group_id": 81, "id": 49568}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297197509.3571999, "user_id": 561}], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297197047.8034289, "message": "@tilgovi Yeah, I really like crash only design", "group_id": 81, "id": 49625}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297201600.355217, "message": "Also, I would agree with @tilgovi that Java's \"concurrency as a language feature\" is actually more of a \"slightly abstract API over mutexes\"", "group_id": 81, "id": 49741}, {"user_id": 224, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297199407.762053, "message": "that and steve buscemi trying to use the bookstore restroom", "group_id": 81, "id": 49723}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297199010.0443261, "message": "@davisp erlang's language concrunncy is cool, but java's builtin concurrency is basically `with synchrnoized(obj):` and @synchrnonized; it's not interesting withot the runtime", "group_id": 81, "id": 49696}, {"user_id": 224, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297199397.78193, "message": "that was one of the best moments of portlandia so far", "group_id": 81, "id": 49722}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297202934.5476451, "user_id": 228}], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297199066.936728, "message": "@alex's real issue with java is that he would be an awful java programmer. So much typing leaves too many opportunities for typos ;)", "group_id": 81, "id": 49697}, {"user_id": 561, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297199217.3634441, "message": "synchronized is crappy shorthand for \"throw a lock on it\"", "group_id": 81, "id": 49707}, {"user_id": 561, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297199205.042383, "message": "I actually think java.util.concurrent is totally BA", "group_id": 81, "id": 49705}, {"user_id": 561, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297199246.399658, "message": "\"Put a bird on it!\" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XM3vWJmpfo", "group_id": 81, "id": 49709}, {"user_id": 507, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297201591.8287511, "user_id": 224}, {"date_created": 1297343781.589443, "user_id": 5388}, {"date_created": 1298139560.4628611, "user_id": 8917}], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297201562.2936289, "message": "I would like to get drunk with Steve Buscemi", "group_id": 81, "id": 49740}, {"user_id": 4060, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297323671.4015141, "user_id": 1}], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297320036.4729011, "message": "o\n/|\\\n/\\", "group_id": 81, "id": 66440}, {"user_id": 4060, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297319746.2686861, "message": "this is a....\ntest!!", "group_id": 81, "id": 66405}, {"user_id": 4060, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297319768.424715, "message": "o  o\n\\____/", "group_id": 81, "id": 66408}, {"user_id": 4857, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297320033.8041, "message": "lolxik", "group_id": 81, "id": 66439}, {"user_id": 4060, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297343653.829324, "message": "icles", "group_id": 81, "id": 69067}, {"user_id": 5473, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297343555.4250281, "message": "test", "group_id": 81, "id": 69052}, {"user_id": 4893, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297343718.626729, "message": "@jespern LOL, I never would have even tried scrolling in the right \"frame\".", "group_id": 81, "id": 69076}, {"user_id": 5296, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1297353921.07059, "message": "...", "group_id": 81, "id": 70857}, {"user_id": 13501, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1883, "date_created": 1298050054.380255, "message": "well, even you stared a post in a topic (are they called posts?) you can't find them later", "group_id": 81, "id": 144617}]