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[{"user_id": 37168, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309301432.0350289, "message": "@MikeDerk Thanks. Any ideas?", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512509}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309301434.629663, "message": "What are you writing?", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512510}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309301394.8828881, "message": "Your title is the best summation I've ever seen of learning Dramatica ever.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512503}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309301931.9728379, "message": "No -- but I haven't gotten any responses from you. Except that one.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512561}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309301763.7828569, "message": "Are my messages posting?", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512543}, {"user_id": 37168, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309301217.150568, "message": "I'm new to Dramatica, but I've read the theory book and used the software and managed to get my story down to one storyform. I'm curious now as to the next step. Is there a place I can see the structure as it has been determined? Which reports are most useful for taking a look at the storyform?", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512483}, {"user_id": 37168, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309301795.8168161, "message": "@MikeDerk That one did. Were there others?", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512549}, {"user_id": 37168, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309301462.266186, "message": "@MikeDerk Screenplay. Thriller.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512514}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309301695.2478099, "message": "Do you have an outline? You know, a non-Dramatica thing.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512533}, {"user_id": 37168, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309301748.822274, "message": "@MikeDerk Just three acts briefly sketched out --almost all plot. no character yet.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512540}, {"user_id": 37168, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309302613.855979, "message": "Yeah, I've read it, and I have a pretty strong handle on the theory -- I'm just not sure how to navigate the software.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512640}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309302750.203979, "message": "Yeah.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512650}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309303152.2380371, "message": "Then see if you can work those ruminations into your existing outline, improving it hopefully.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512687}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309302070.84587, "message": "When you say \"three acts\" do you mean 30-60-30 or 30-30-30-0?", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512572}, {"user_id": 37168, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309302139.124599, "message": "I mean 30-60-30.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512580}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309302479.401078, "message": "Yeah, it will give you structural landmarks. Have you read the theory book?", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512624}, {"user_id": 37168, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309302721.7481899, "message": "Yeah. Under the Plot Progression tile, right?", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512647}, {"user_id": 37168, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309303266.8717799, "message": "Problems? Symptoms? Responses?", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512705}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309302103.8954501, "message": "I mean, do you have a full movie or 3/4 of a movie plot?", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512577}, {"user_id": 37168, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309302111.2430329, "message": "I'm writing a screenplay -- a thriller -- and I have three act briefly sketched out (mostly plot -- little character). I'm sort of curious about the dramatica thing -- will the software give me structural landmarks (like the steps of The Hero's Journey)?", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512579}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309302518.674895, "message": "Sorry, I'm having issues on this end.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512630}, {"user_id": 37168, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309303238.7902679, "message": "Cool. Thanks. When you say \"Work\" these ruminations into the existing outline, I'm guessing you mean that I should be weaving all of them together.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512699}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309303243.8350151, "message": "See if you can get through all five outlines that way, which will eventually all collapse into one outline.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512700}, {"user_id": 37168, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309303508.315819, "message": "Ah, makes sense. I should use these four story points as a sort of guiding light as I'm constructing the narrative.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512738}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309302632.6233721, "message": "Can you find your signposts?", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512642}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309303619.046607, "message": "And each domain has their own, as well. So it comes to 16.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512750}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309302792.4696, "message": "So, basically, what I would do as a first step (but don't take only my word for it; I hope others post) is something like this:", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512653}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309303190.9370911, "message": "And, don't be shy about using the Problems and Symptoms and Responses to heap on the conflict and drama.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512692}, {"user_id": 37168, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309303257.855108, "message": "Got it. Disregard that last question.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512702}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309303121.824553, "message": "Get a bunch of paper, or word documents, enough to make five outlines.\nOne for each throughline (MC, IC, SS, and OS) and one that is the outline you already have.\nThen, take the first signpost for each throughline, and explore it. So, if one is The Past, jot down a bunch of things that are relevant about The Past in that particular throughline. Make sure there's enough conflict in there to push the characters around, so they aren't static. (Like, \"The MC's old gun jams and he's got to talk his way out of the alley where they brought him to die.\") \nSee if somewhere in your ruminations you end up making a trajectory to your second set of signposts. (This will be similar to getting from \"refusal of the call\" to \"meeting the mentor\" or any sort of getting from one stepping stone to another.)", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512682}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309303281.382714, "message": "simulpost.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512708}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309303375.6917169, "message": "Open your Story Engine. Bottom Left corner is your MC's Problem, Solution, Symptom and Response. \n\nBut, regardless of knowing where to find these (and there are other places, too), what do they mean to you?", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512718}, {"user_id": 37168, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309303948.9937711, "message": "Awesome. Thanks so much for the help.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512792}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309303810.389864, "message": "I gotta run, for now. But that is what I would do to get a fuller outline. There are other things I would do after that before I started in on the script, but they're harder to do without a full outline to work from. For me, anyway.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1512780}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309311357.9224391, "message": "Out of curiosity, I'd love to know what your MC Problem, Solution, Symptom & Response are, and an example of each in your story.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1513642}, {"user_id": 7645, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309324480.2156069, "message": "I know you asked others to help post @MikeDerk but I thought that advice was solid. Nothing to add...yet!", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1514982}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309379455.3937049, "message": "I use the Query System.\n\nIn the dropdown menu, you'll see \"Objective Story\" \"Main Character Story\" etc.\n\nLook in there. Under \"Appreciations\" (OS Appreciations Intro, MC Appreciations Intro...)", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1521564}, {"user_id": 37168, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309379203.9361849, "message": "Yes, but I'm still figuring them out. Will get back to you once I've crystalized everything. Thanks for following up.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1521505}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309379267.7971389, "message": "okay", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1521519}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309379091.4795101, "message": "Care to share your MC Problem, etc.?", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1521479}, {"user_id": 37168, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309379318.9438579, "message": "Just out of curiosity though, where can I find the Problem, etc. for other domains. I don't see it in the Plot Progression tile.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1521532}, {"user_id": 37168, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309379692.7999811, "message": "Thanks.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1521624}, {"user_id": 10814, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309384285.411155, "message": "The story engine settings report if I am being frugal with paper. The story points report if I am not.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1522398}, {"user_id": 10814, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309383523.68764, "message": "The other place to see all your story points easily are the Story Points window (tile on desktop), and the Story Engine Settings report (listed as the first of the Advanced Reports in the Report window popup menu).", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1522320}, {"user_id": 37168, "stars": [], "topic_id": 40665, "date_created": 1309384022.8988271, "message": "@Chris_Huntley Thanks. I've been listening to the Story Embroidery podcasts. Just curious: which report do you distribute to the members that tells them what info they need to provide re: illustrating?", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1522378}]