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[{"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 41531, "date_created": 1310231674.166311, "message": "I have a question about the ending. Rapunzel has her hair chopped off--does this make her a change character? It was against her volition. Also, I think the movie is a tale, so is resolve even relevant?", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1599693}, {"user_id": 7645, "stars": [], "topic_id": 41531, "date_created": 1310234170.5532999, "message": "I think they cheated and had them both change. Kind of messes up the argument (or at least makes it less clear)", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1599836}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 41531, "date_created": 1310237018.0930281, "message": "I don't think that's their only cheat.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1600109}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 41531, "date_created": 1310237028.788254, "message": "I actually think it's a fairly i ncomplete story.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1600110}, {"user_id": 10814, "stars": [], "topic_id": 41531, "date_created": 1310315855.6668141, "message": "I think it was SUPPOSED to be that the rogue changes (basedon Rapunzel's steadfastness), and the hair is related to the OS.  Cutting off the hair caused the defeat of the antagonist, but wasn't something Rapunzel held to personally.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1605129}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 41531, "date_created": 1310666401.0241821, "message": "This movie is interesting because there are two cool lessons.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1639037}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 41531, "date_created": 1310666456.7165029, "message": "One: just because it's obvious that Rapunzel has a unique situation doesn't mean she is a situation character.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1639046}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [{"date_created": 1310671156.459352, "user_id": 7645}], "topic_id": 41531, "date_created": 1310666559.2533021, "message": "Flynn, and he undermines her sacrifice by rejecting it.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1639060}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 41531, "date_created": 1310666528.8502591, "message": "Two: if both the MC & IC change it can be really confusing. She seems so out of sorts when she changed/sacrifices herself for Flymm", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1639057}, {"user_id": 7645, "stars": [], "topic_id": 41531, "date_created": 1310671157.931529, "message": "yes, well said", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1639603}, {"user_id": 39675, "stars": [], "topic_id": 41531, "date_created": 1313910934.6981039, "message": "@MikeDerk or is he setting her free by cutting her hair?  Do I have the correct scene?", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1921345}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 41531, "date_created": 1314023480.6265321, "message": "She's also not a witch. She just kidnaps the girl.\n\nLet's just move this whole conversation over to the other thread.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1930335}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 41531, "date_created": 1313976651.0013199, "message": "He's definitely setting her free. What's the \"or\"?", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1926062}, {"user_id": 39675, "stars": [], "topic_id": 41531, "date_created": 1313978722.6325841, "message": "...or she would be defined and manipulated by and for the power of her hair, instead of who she was as a person.  I was bummed out, at first, since I have the western bent of material success ending, and there was great material success in having such powerful hair.  It took me a while to tie in her being controlled by the witch because of her powerful hair, and being freed from it to find her own worth as a person.  It seemed a more advanced romance genre thing.  I considered it might have been a dynamic opposite to the control/manipulation by the witch.  Could that have been the ic change moment?  As a viewer, I took Rapunzel as steadfast.  I should watch the movie, again, to pinpoint why.  That was just my initial experience as audience.  She's a be-er, isn't she?", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1926397}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [], "topic_id": 41531, "date_created": 1313982701.093322, "message": "I think Flynn is the IC, not the step-mom, which is why I think I can't follow you.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1926904}, {"user_id": 39675, "stars": [], "topic_id": 41531, "date_created": 1313992115.2408791, "message": "I think Flynn is the ic.  When he whacked off her hair, he did it to free her.  This is when he changed from always having an angle for Mr. #1, himself.  But I have to see it again.  The witch is not a step-mom. She is an abductor, hence antagonist.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1927800}, {"user_id": 39675, "stars": [], "topic_id": 41531, "date_created": 1314023676.5262499, "message": "ok", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1930373}, {"user_id": 37586, "stars": [], "topic_id": 41531, "date_created": 1314364193.4012849, "message": "Spoilers don't spoil a good story. http://m.npr.org/story/139620278?url=/2011/08/14/139620278/spoiler-alert-you-dont-need-spoilers", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1968136}, {"user_id": 39675, "stars": [], "topic_id": 41531, "date_created": 1314382157.7761791, "message": "I agree.  I always find out the storyline and plot before I go to see a movie, and always read the end of the book first, to see if I want to invest so many hours with the story.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1969705}, {"user_id": 7664, "stars": [{"date_created": 1314388789.9470429, "user_id": 36437}], "topic_id": 41531, "date_created": 1314386170.8028059, "message": "Blasphemy.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1970048}, {"user_id": 39675, "stars": [], "topic_id": 41531, "date_created": 1314392136.4437311, "message": "Blame it on the power of writing <G>.  In the 60's I was married to a guy who bought Playboy.  I liked to read the short stories because the writing was so good.  However, one ending was so cold and cruel to the woman/widow character, setting her up and causing her to commit suicide in retaliation for her marrying someone else, years ago, I have never been able to read a story without knowing the ending since. \n\nAlso, with the current economic downturn, I don't pay big movie ticket prices without knowing I will like the ending.  I always assumed that was why I liked using Dramatica, constant overview.", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1970565}, {"user_id": 37586, "stars": [], "topic_id": 41531, "date_created": 1314398811.869766, "message": "here is a better link where you can listen to the whole story.  http://www.npr.org/2011/08/14/139620278/spoiler-alert-you-dont-need-spoilers", "group_id": 2515, "id": 1971213}]