convore.json/groups/emacs/using-emacs-starter-kit-vs-having-own-emacs-config-what-is-better-for-long-term/messages.json

[{"user_id": 14306, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7305, "date_created": 1298275691.5288799, "message": "strategy A: use esk, and create a directory with your username in it. (this is what I do).\r\nstrategy B: insert esk into your existing setup, if you have one.\r\n\r\nIf you're new to emacs, use A. Most who aren't use B.", "group_id": 83, "id": 157153}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7305, "date_created": 1298319493.0678289, "message": "long term is to just steal the bits of it you want.", "group_id": 83, "id": 166814}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7305, "date_created": 1298319496.7055809, "message": "its rare that you'll want everything in the ESK", "group_id": 83, "id": 166819}, {"user_id": 278, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7305, "date_created": 1298352134.1153879, "message": "Chances are you don't want everything in the ESK. The point is to be lean and powerful. Use only the customizations that you need and will actually use. Long term means removing cruft early before it becomes a problem.", "group_id": 83, "id": 177225}, {"user_id": 2937, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7305, "date_created": 1298432379.532717, "message": "I started with emacs starter kid as a starting point and have customized it considerably. It's worked pretty well for me, though it is true that I should go through and disable a bunch of bloat that I don't use (as it is, I've only disabled things that actively got in my way). Here's my fork: https://github.com/jackowayed/emacs-starter-kit", "group_id": 83, "id": 185646}, {"user_id": 3611, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7305, "date_created": 1298986661.722019, "message": "I started by having my own fork of ESK, but recently Phil simplified the setup considerably. Now I just keep my own emacs customizations in a separate repo and symlink custom.el and vendor/ into .emacs.d.", "group_id": 83, "id": 234520}, {"user_id": 25106, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7305, "date_created": 1301034206.7077179, "message": "I forked ESK, most of my customizations are in \"ramen\": https://github.com/ramen/emacs-starter-kit", "group_id": 83, "id": 436260}, {"user_id": 25106, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7305, "date_created": 1301034269.211303, "message": "Overall I think it has a lot of good sane defaults, does nice auto-loading and byte-compiling, and pushed me in a few modern directions such as using ido", "group_id": 83, "id": 436264}, {"user_id": 25106, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7305, "date_created": 1301034347.3291149, "message": "I learned that I really don't jive with paredit, and a few other things bug me, like ELPA being super out of date, and no obvious way to incorporate git submodules instead", "group_id": 83, "id": 436270}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7305, "date_created": 1301076141.6507871, "message": "@ramen You might check out marmalade http://marmalade-repo.org/", "group_id": 83, "id": 440805}, {"user_id": 25106, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7305, "date_created": 1301076618.785471, "message": "Interesting, thanks @justinlilly - I notice that they're still on magit 0.8.1 as well though, even though 0.8.2 has been out for about 9 months. That's the package I was mainly referring to.", "group_id": 83, "id": 440863}, {"user_id": 22504, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7305, "date_created": 1301116344.8313849, "message": "I used starter kits for stuff like clojure, but found I'm happier with rolling my own.", "group_id": 83, "id": 444821}, {"user_id": 18774, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7305, "date_created": 1301123793.5550649, "message": "I used starter-kit but as I started to gain more experience I felt not confortable 'cause I needed to change some staff to close the story I ended up making mine.", "group_id": 83, "id": 445427}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7305, "date_created": 1301527138.5610869, "message": "@ramen I think anyone (or maybe just the maintainer) can add an updated version.", "group_id": 83, "id": 485759}, {"user_id": 25106, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7305, "date_created": 1301527335.8081679, "message": "@justinlilly Hmm, I just signed up and tried to find a way to upload, but I think I have to contact the owner, which is Techomancy. I'll hit him up on GitHub. Thanks!", "group_id": 83, "id": 485771}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7305, "date_created": 1301548280.8021431, "message": "@ramen You can alternatively ping him on twitter. he's fairly responsive. also #emacs on freenode.", "group_id": 83, "id": 488365}, {"user_id": 25106, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7305, "date_created": 1301579000.4519479, "message": "@justinlilly I got in touch with him, and he graciously added me to the owners on Marmalade. And I proceeded to completely fubar the Magit distribution on there for reasons I don't quite understand. I can't seem to make a .tar file that Emacs will open properly. I'm on Linux and using \"tar cvf\" - you'd think I'd have this down by now. But the version 1.0.0 that I uploaded wouldn't install, and I couldn't delete it on Marmalade so I uploaded a 1.0.0.1 with fewer generated files, still won't install. I wrote the guy behind Marmalade and I'm waiting for a reply.", "group_id": 83, "id": 491790}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7305, "date_created": 1301624742.6599729, "message": "@ramen heh. please ping me when you have it setup so I can remove magit from my submodules :)", "group_id": 83, "id": 498633}, {"user_id": 25106, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7305, "date_created": 1301972708.763644, "message": "@justinlilly Nathan (Marmalade) wrote me today and had me send the package to him so he could try to debug it. I'll let you know if we make any progress! :)", "group_id": 83, "id": 533004}, {"user_id": 25106, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7305, "date_created": 1302134005.381007, "message": "@justinlilly Success! http://marmalade-repo.org/packages/magit/1.0.0 :D", "group_id": 83, "id": 566332}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7305, "date_created": 1302141227.8682511, "message": ";)", "group_id": 83, "id": 567936}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7305, "date_created": 1302141225.6380429, "message": "@ramen If you next got JDEE working with emacs 24 via marmalade, I'd happily pay  you $100.", "group_id": 83, "id": 567934}]