convore.json/groups/enthought/ets-sprint-june-2011/messages.json

[{"user_id": 29590, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307211523.5205469, "message": "Welcome to the ETS Sprints in June 2011 - this topic is for any discussion related to the discussion", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1287773}, {"user_id": 31513, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307213517.200155, "message": "I'm going to start working on finishing the namespace refactor.", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1287999}, {"user_id": 29590, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307213736.0303349, "message": "If Chris isn't going to be here, I'll probably work on ETS documentation", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1288040}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307221629.1144979, "message": "I am here now!", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1288940}, {"user_id": 35223, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307225155.9145451, "message": "What about drawing a poly-line where is the user that decide how to avoid other objects? ...  Ok ... there's a clear problem when you use the autoarrange button. Isn't it?", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289550}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307225625.8674569, "message": "It messes up the placement, that is.", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289594}, {"user_id": 10454, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307222568.684859, "message": "Barring objection, I am going to start on the traits.util changes I outlined here: https://mail.enthought.com/pipermail/enthought-dev/2011-May/029136.html", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289141}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307223915.894016, "message": "or enable?", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289310}, {"user_id": 35223, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307223921.154269, "message": "Yes .... this is the idea", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289314}, {"user_id": 35223, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307224016.1479621, "message": "Yes .... but it should be done refactoring completely the application ....", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289343}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307223969.8770411, "message": "Oh moving the whole app setup to Task", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289329}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307223976.7203641, "message": "That is an interesting idea..", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289332}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307223655.2172899, "message": "@RobertKern Sounds good.  There are 4 of us working on getting the demos and tutorials for Traits and Chaco up and running.", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289251}, {"user_id": 35223, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307223693.11324, "message": "Hi all, I'm Eraldo and I'm here .... for me it is a bit late but tomorrow I would like to work on BlockCanvas to (right now) wrap it in Evisage (task to be precise) .... It is a sort of test before the attempt to refactor it entirely. What is your opinion ?", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289259}, {"user_id": 35223, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307224044.6883521, "message": "Right now I would like just to test task wrapping the original application", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289347}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307223903.12024, "message": "Are you talking about moving the canvas to Envisage?", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289304}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307224175.3524971, "message": "Hmm, why not just do a migration to Task as part of the refactor?", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289374}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307224466.0996029, "message": "Ummhmm, but back to your original question.  I think that once Ilan has pushed the namespace refactor, it might be good for you to create a branch on block canvas where you try to restructure the app.", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289432}, {"user_id": 35223, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307224634.109405, "message": "I have to give you my apology ... I'm still using my fork :( .... It is the time to create a new branch", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289486}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307223884.9479511, "message": "@eraldop Hey Eraldo.", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289301}, {"user_id": 35223, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307223912.9634991, "message": "Hi Anthony ....", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289307}, {"user_id": 35223, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307223968.403722, "message": "the whole BlockCanvas app not just the canvas ....", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289328}, {"user_id": 35223, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307223936.4525249, "message": "envisage .......", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289318}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307224005.9016931, "message": "You might be able to clean up the code a lot in the process.", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289341}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307224192.837049, "message": "(BTW Ilan is moving BlockCanvas out of the enthought namespace right now ~_~)", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289379}, {"user_id": 35223, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307224884.7700961, "message": "So it must be created from scratch more or less", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289521}, {"user_id": 35223, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307224263.61322, "message": "Thanks to Ilan .... of course not just for this nemespace refactoring ... we all owe him so much!!!!", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289393}, {"user_id": 10454, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307224808.5654709, "message": "But there is nothing that will calculate a curve that avoids other objects.", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289513}, {"user_id": 35223, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307224529.2746689, "message": "By the way ..... BlockCanvas needs to be cleaned a lot .... and, from my experience ( I'm using it every day in the last couple of months to analyze seismic data) its weak point is the wiring tool and how the wires are connecting different blocks ... Is there a feature in envisage to draw a line between two point in the canvas avoiding the overlap with other \"element\" in it ?", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289461}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307224776.865402, "message": "Yeah I agree that the usability needs to be increased a lot.  There are parts of kiva that do the sort of drawing that you are talking about", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289509}, {"user_id": 10454, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307224932.617764, "message": "Yes.", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289525}, {"user_id": 10454, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307224859.3140581, "message": "A graph layout tool like GraphViz can do that, though.", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289520}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307225500.2797749, "message": "There is.  Also on init sometimes too.", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289588}, {"user_id": 35223, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307225645.4649751, "message": "moving the disposition of the blocks from up-down to left-right and connecting each \"variable\" through its connector instead of a single central point, together with the poly-line should be not enough but, at least, a step ahead ", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289595}, {"user_id": 35223, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307225680.5836501, "message": "What do you mean Anthony?", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289602}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307226222.9347329, "message": "I was talking about how the auto arrange button doesn't work", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289662}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307226259.0525999, "message": "But you are right, even having the i/o lines start and end at the right spot would be a big leap ahead", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289669}, {"user_id": 35223, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307228028.2416451, "message": "It is time to go to sleep .... see you tomorrow!! And good ETS sprint", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289925}, {"user_id": 35223, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307226429.680413, "message": "this should be affordable .... .because the starting and ending point are already used to detect which variables will be connected but the points to connect are \"redirected\" to the center of each block (up or down depending on the type of connection input or output)", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1289695}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307229571.0071509, "message": "Good night!", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1290043}, {"user_id": 31513, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307244453.498884, "message": "Anyone still here?", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1291034}, {"user_id": 35223, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307283563.950947, "message": "I also had a doubt but why not start ?", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1293408}, {"user_id": 35223, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307283646.0284009, "message": "Ok .... I'm in Italy so there's no problem for me .... I will remain at home!!! :P", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1293415}, {"user_id": 14878, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307283411.8169789, "message": "Hi all", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1293388}, {"user_id": 14878, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307283489.67664, "message": "will I meet you today? Are you planning on coming again today?", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1293396}, {"user_id": 35223, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307283505.206666, "message": "Yes .....", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1293397}, {"user_id": 14878, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307283455.208935, "message": "I see people worked a lot yesterday!", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1293393}, {"user_id": 35223, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307283455.729352, "message": "Hi", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1293394}, {"user_id": 14878, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307283471.904063, "message": "hi Eraldo", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1293395}, {"user_id": 35223, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307283518.2425151, "message": "I'm already working on it ....", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1293400}, {"user_id": 14878, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307283527.1378779, "message": "Cool. I was wondering when the official meet up time was", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1293403}, {"user_id": 14878, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307283603.5108571, "message": "I am still at home and not ready to start. I am planning on coming down to the office.", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1293411}, {"user_id": 14878, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307283642.0203941, "message": "Are you there or working remotely?", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1293414}, {"user_id": 14878, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307283652.395921, "message": ":P", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1293416}, {"user_id": 35223, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307283708.0593369, "message": "from 1 - 7 pm CST this should be the schedule .... for Anthony's email", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1293422}, {"user_id": 14878, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307283716.81881, "message": "ok thanks", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1293423}, {"user_id": 14878, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307283729.3004961, "message": "I will read the convore too to see what you guys did yesterday", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1293425}, {"user_id": 14878, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307283759.204361, "message": "I will shoot for 1pm then", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1293431}, {"user_id": 35223, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307283783.0804901, "message": "OK ... see you later", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1293436}, {"user_id": 14878, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307283770.591536, "message": "Talk to you later then", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1293434}, {"user_id": 31513, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307297232.2222109, "message": "Are we also using this convore thread today (Sunday)?", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1294485}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307297300.046737, "message": "@ilanschnell I hope so", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1294494}, {"user_id": 35223, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307297311.3326671, "message": "I hope so too", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1294495}, {"user_id": 29590, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307298357.9162259, "message": "@scopatz where is the google doc with the examples?", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1294571}, {"user_id": 14878, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307299600.6515701, "message": "@WarrenWeckesser In the office there are Ilan, Corran, Andy, Ray, Robert and myself", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1294686}, {"user_id": 35223, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307299633.408458, "message": "@WarrenWeckesser Trac is working for me", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1294691}, {"user_id": 14878, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307299026.4464121, "message": "Hi all, I will be working on the chaco webpage and the quickstart page and the tutorials in particular. After that I will review the new chaco in ipython written by Corran", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1294626}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307299321.746979, "message": "@cwebster I'll share it with you", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1294649}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307299547.926054, "message": "And I made it public", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1294678}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307300609.9150281, "message": "@eraldop I am not sprinting today :(  I will tomorrow", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1294820}, {"user_id": 29593, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307299439.3243151, "message": "Is it just me, or is the ETS Trac down?  I get an \"Internal Server Error\" when I try to access https://svn.enthought.com/enthought", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1294669}, {"user_id": 29593, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307299212.3297491, "message": "Who's in the office?  I'm working at home at the moment, and I'll probably head in to the office in an hour or so.", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1294640}, {"user_id": 14878, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307299654.417908, "message": "@WarrenWeckesser Trac is working for me too", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1294695}, {"user_id": 29593, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307300118.1500299, "message": "Just reread Robert's email, with the recommendation to use the old-namespace branch.  Sounds good to me.", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1294745}, {"user_id": 35223, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307300631.5500231, "message": "@scopatz Sorry ....", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1294824}, {"user_id": 29593, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307299674.099818, "message": "OK, thanks.", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1294697}, {"user_id": 29593, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307299824.663276, "message": "For chaco bug fixes or enhancements, should we work on the old-namespace branch?", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1294715}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307300249.638557, "message": "@WarrenWeckesser I think enhancements should go in the new namespace, or at least you should put the enchantments on both branches.", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1294771}, {"user_id": 31041, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307300314.7951059, "message": "Ray, Andy, Corran, Robert, Jon R, Ilan", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1294779}, {"user_id": 29593, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307300367.3216009, "message": "Heh... sorry, just a muggle here, no enchantments.", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1294786}, {"user_id": 29590, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307300414.8419249, "message": "@scopatz  @WarrenWeckesser Keep updates on old_namespaces for now", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1294796}, {"user_id": 35223, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307300524.082639, "message": "@scopatz I created a new branch \"dev\" in BlockCanvas .... could you check that everything is still fine?", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1294810}, {"user_id": 14878, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307303514.1638651, "message": "FYI, if someone has troubles editing the documentation or updating the webpages, I just updated https://docs.google.com/a/enthought.com/document/d/1GF2_M9qL4Gx61bROpKpWJCAUnlVwV5xrUNaGzMkQTEs/edit?hl=en_US", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1295078}, {"user_id": 29593, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307304302.858772, "message": "Well, maybe I *won't* ride my bike in to the office.", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1295163}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307305064.80316, "message": "@jonathanrocher Also there is ets_docs.py", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1295231}, {"user_id": 29775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307309421.5774081, "message": "@pwang Did you ever finish the cython agg backend?", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1295836}, {"user_id": 29593, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307318012.867846, "message": "See you next time.", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1298009}, {"user_id": 35223, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307316944.1661651, "message": "@scopatz Just to let you know ... I changed the wiring tool to connect each input with the corresponding output .... It is not complete but almost .... Of course I must test it. I will update the changes to the \"dev\" branch after your check .... Cheers, and see you at the next sprint", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1297756}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307318456.7345619, "message": "Thanks guys", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1298093}, {"user_id": 14878, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307318472.56354, "message": "Anthony, I saw and used the ets_docs.py", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1298097}, {"user_id": 14878, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307318428.258971, "message": "going home too", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1298087}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307318453.7268701, "message": "Awesome", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1298092}, {"user_id": 35223, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307317973.5484631, "message": "Bye ..... guys .... see you!", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1298002}, {"user_id": 14878, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307318484.0515931, "message": "that's precisely what I added in my google doc", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1298099}, {"user_id": 14878, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307318522.6378031, "message": "If someone wants to look at the new page, http://github.enthought.com/chaco/quickstart.html", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1298107}, {"user_id": 14878, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307318424.1265571, "message": "Done with the quickstart page", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1298086}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307318492.825485, "message": "OK", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1298103}, {"user_id": 14878, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307318533.6986339, "message": "I probably left some english mistakes", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1298110}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307318464.2641549, "message": "I am sorry I couldn't be there today", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1298095}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307318527.1007681, "message": "It is getting blustery out.  Be careful!", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1298108}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307318607.0064061, "message": "It looks good on a quick overview!", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1298117}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307318491.117162, "message": "Ahh gotcha", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1298102}, {"user_id": 14878, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307318539.8994279, "message": "I will review tonight", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1298111}, {"user_id": 14878, "stars": [], "topic_id": 38110, "date_created": 1307318620.190475, "message": "cool", "group_id": 4987, "id": 1298118}]