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[{"user_id": 14970, "stars": [], "topic_id": 36255, "date_created": 1306019209.03105, "message": "How do you guys go about finding system admins for your startup? I know that good programmers, sometimes aren't the best system administrators. Even managing simple platforms like PhpFog or DotCloud can be sometimes technical. Thoughts?", "group_id": 250, "id": 1138512}, {"user_id": 15929, "stars": [{"date_created": 1306062339.1719, "user_id": 26065}], "topic_id": 36255, "date_created": 1306060913.6991391, "message": "seriously though, isn't using something like phpfog is to simplified the sysadmin side of things? and honestly there's nothing much a sysadmin can do if you're using PaaS system", "group_id": 250, "id": 1140854}, {"user_id": 15929, "stars": [], "topic_id": 36255, "date_created": 1306060862.2741599, "message": "you don't. they find you :p", "group_id": 250, "id": 1140853}, {"user_id": 8582, "stars": [], "topic_id": 36255, "date_created": 1306094723.349247, "message": "or heroku for ruby. I'm a decent sysadmin, but I avoid it whenever possible.", "group_id": 250, "id": 1143741}, {"user_id": 33031, "stars": [], "topic_id": 36255, "date_created": 1306139863.8657629, "message": "Check this out vps.net", "group_id": 250, "id": 1150285}, {"user_id": 9321, "stars": [], "topic_id": 36255, "date_created": 1306162058.432709, "message": "If you want a sysadmin - find one working for someone else, and ask them if they want a job! If not, ask them if they know anyone they might recommend. Finding someone through your personal network will usually beat finding someone at random.", "group_id": 250, "id": 1153423}, {"user_id": 34775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 36255, "date_created": 1306903001.8884549, "message": "I think if you're aiming to launch something in the cloud your development team need to work closely with your sys admin from the outset to ensure you app takes advantage of all the features of the cloud such as redundancy and scaling. I reckon that using a cloud based platform actually increases the need for a sys admin not diminish it. Hiring depends on whether they need to be physically part of your team or can work remotely.", "group_id": 250, "id": 1248455}, {"user_id": 34775, "stars": [], "topic_id": 36255, "date_created": 1306903091.9867461, "message": "Ps I would stay away from phpfog. I just do t feel it's that great an offering. You cab achieve much more control, flexibility and at a better price point by using a public cloud such as aws or rackspace.", "group_id": 250, "id": 1248488}, {"user_id": 18795, "stars": [], "topic_id": 36255, "date_created": 1307277506.5306411, "message": "Outsource it. Find a good partner to speed things up. Later you can decide to build in-house.", "group_id": 250, "id": 1292942}, {"user_id": 22095, "stars": [], "topic_id": 36255, "date_created": 1307435155.5628121, "message": "@AroonUp msg me sam@echoio.com", "group_id": 250, "id": 1318176}]