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[{"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1304975244.709857, "message": "(That's a lot of plusses)", "group_id": 2873, "id": 977959}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [{"date_created": 1304975301.241518, "user_id": 8391}], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1304975227.620882, "message": "Plus one million", "group_id": 2873, "id": 977952}, {"user_id": 8391, "stars": [{"date_created": 1304975220.400625, "user_id": 1}, {"date_created": 1304993933.1768889, "user_id": 1081}, {"date_created": 1305902999.901386, "user_id": 5282}], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1304975216.53298, "message": "Random display of affection for ep.io: <3", "group_id": 2873, "id": 977949}, {"user_id": 8740, "stars": [{"date_created": 1304993945.027535, "user_id": 1081}, {"date_created": 1305001788.8272769, "user_id": 8391}], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1304978985.1320281, "message": "Well, if you're lucky, we'll start accepting love as a form of payment. Not sure we can find a good payment provider, though...", "group_id": 2873, "id": 978991}, {"user_id": 25736, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305019136.389966, "message": "Looking for a provider as well.. why did you not go with paypal at the end?", "group_id": 2873, "id": 987349}, {"user_id": 25736, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305019110.983561, "message": "+1 on the loving :)", "group_id": 2873, "id": 987340}, {"user_id": 8740, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305020549.777957, "message": "@liorsion We are going with PayPal initially, just because it's a lot easier to get a real merchant account if you have a good trading history.", "group_id": 2873, "id": 987777}, {"user_id": 8391, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305041460.9644799, "message": "GitHub uses braintree. Seems like everyone seems to use authorize.net", "group_id": 2873, "id": 991448}, {"user_id": 8740, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305064067.7835319, "message": "@kennethreitz and unfortunately, both are US-only at our size", "group_id": 2873, "id": 996532}, {"user_id": 8391, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305080234.434077, "message": "@andrewgodwin for customers or the vendor?", "group_id": 2873, "id": 999961}, {"user_id": 29682, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305100699.308341, "message": "PayPal has some of the best international coverage (customers and vendors), the big payment processors are all US-oriented. Also, It feels like someone should be taking +'s as currency by now.", "group_id": 2873, "id": 1003462}, {"user_id": 8740, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305105378.0702829, "message": "@kennethreitz The vendor - CC processing is usually fine with international customers.", "group_id": 2873, "id": 1004369}, {"user_id": 21184, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305197551.3041849, "message": "+(a lot) from me", "group_id": 2873, "id": 1023643}, {"user_id": 21184, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305197677.4264021, "message": "Sidenote: Maybe you should think a little about your pricing structure. I have a lot of very small sites, that I expect will never exceed the free quota. But I'd live to give you some money or them.", "group_id": 2873, "id": 1023651}, {"user_id": 21184, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305197714.848968, "message": "(live = love)", "group_id": 2873, "id": 1023653}, {"user_id": 8391, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305208899.912297, "message": "@nureineide: github business model", "group_id": 2873, "id": 1024705}, {"user_id": 8391, "stars": [{"date_created": 1305240169.361187, "user_id": 1}, {"date_created": 1305257224.3432989, "user_id": 1081}], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305208969.934762, "message": "the fact that the small tier apps are completely free, i start tiny experiment apps *all the time* now, which makes me a super happy developer and ep.io user.", "group_id": 2873, "id": 1024713}, {"user_id": 29686, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305286803.4547551, "message": "same here, started 6 apps in the past few weeks on ep.io (none of which outgrow the free tier) which would probably not even be online if the service didn't exist. i am planning to host some bigger (client) apps there too though, which should rack up some income, so i'm guessing it will even out in the end. expect perhaps if your spending all your helpdesk time on free apps...", "group_id": 2873, "id": 1039800}, {"user_id": 12716, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305308187.855202, "message": "I've done a lot of research and just like BrainTree Payments customer service and no BS approach.", "group_id": 2873, "id": 1044456}, {"user_id": 8740, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305394690.2518151, "message": "@nureineide Small apps cost us very little; we'd much rather take money from the bigger apps and keep them free, it lowers the bar to entry so much", "group_id": 2873, "id": 1053689}, {"user_id": 8740, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305395327.2115459, "message": "I know gondor is more strict about project layout, but that mainly affects getting it in, not getting it out", "group_id": 2873, "id": 1053762}, {"user_id": 8740, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305394722.6468649, "message": "Of course, there's something of the \"the first hit is free\" approach, but we're very proud of having no lock-in, either, so it's not like we're evil.", "group_id": 2873, "id": 1053694}, {"user_id": 31790, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305395145.3908811, "message": "Can you expand on the 'no lock-in' topic? I'm curious as to how easy it actually is to move an app between the various Heroku-for-Python hosts.", "group_id": 2873, "id": 1053747}, {"user_id": 8740, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305395290.8477659, "message": "@webmaven For us, in any case, you can take the code you run on us and just launch it with gunicorn/apache/etc. straight away - nothing needs changing, at all. Unlike, say, Appengine", "group_id": 2873, "id": 1053760}, {"user_id": 8740, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305395306.8584111, "message": "I think the others are similar, but I obviously can't speak on their behalf", "group_id": 2873, "id": 1053761}, {"user_id": 31790, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305395595.0147209, "message": "TyphoonAE is not a small-scale solution, to be sure.", "group_id": 2873, "id": 1053776}, {"user_id": 8740, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305395685.7384191, "message": "@webmaven Well, I'm sure moving code between all us hosts is relatively easy as well.", "group_id": 2873, "id": 1053782}, {"user_id": 8740, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305395694.9005809, "message": "@webmaven From what I understand, yes.", "group_id": 2873, "id": 1053784}, {"user_id": 8740, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305395712.8790131, "message": "They might be working on relaxing some of the rules, though. We started off a bit stricter.", "group_id": 2873, "id": 1053786}, {"user_id": 31790, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305395522.4834809, "message": "Well, if you're talking about moving to self-hosting, sure. Although it should be noted that App Engine has TyphoonAE available if you want to move to self-hosting: http://code.google.com/p/typhoonae/", "group_id": 2873, "id": 1053772}, {"user_id": 31790, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305395677.0908501, "message": "Interesting info about Gondor's strictness. So, an app deployed on Gondor would be easy to deploy on ep.io, but going in the other direction would require more work?", "group_id": 2873, "id": 1053780}, {"user_id": 8740, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305396585.3509729, "message": "@webmaven Hah, that's unlikely. Look at CloudFoundry, which claims to be an open platform, but lacks a lot of API and code hooks for things like stats, payment, doing services as a big cluster, etc.", "group_id": 2873, "id": 1053862}, {"user_id": 31790, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305396134.2498691, "message": "@andrewgodwin Well, it won't be *really* easy until one of you decides to go for explicit compatibility, clones another service's API, and starts using the same client code. ;-)", "group_id": 2873, "id": 1053824}, {"user_id": 31790, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305397856.565016, "message": "@andrewgodwin Hmm. Sorry I wasn't clear. I only meant cloning the *deployment* API.", "group_id": 2873, "id": 1053980}, {"user_id": 8740, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305461373.085063, "message": "@webmaven Ah, right. Well, you can't get much simpler than git and a single file... :)", "group_id": 2873, "id": 1059404}, {"user_id": 31790, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305484424.7292049, "message": "Which should make it that much simpler to converge on a common API and client, right? ;-)", "group_id": 2873, "id": 1061802}, {"user_id": 8740, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1305494280.9021809, "message": "@webmaven I really doubt it, every PaaS I've seen has slightly different design and features. Perhaps it will, but I think the best first standard would be around WSGI to include deployment details (static files, etc.)", "group_id": 2873, "id": 1063537}, {"user_id": 1081, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34434, "date_created": 1306207946.8475831, "message": "until i can pay, here's my mandatory dashes of love: i love that i can just do epio upload; epio django syncdb ... and i have a working site.", "group_id": 2873, "id": 1161223}]