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[{"user_id": 224, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1943, "date_created": 1297219600.735153, "message": "i thought of groups as being more subject-oriented, like \"books\", \"music\" etc.", "group_id": 88, "id": 50119}, {"user_id": 224, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1943, "date_created": 1297219686.937238, "message": "but they said that was okay, that was a beer topic for the django group", "group_id": 88, "id": 50124}, {"user_id": 224, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1943, "date_created": 1297219574.3676939, "message": "@mko sorry, organizing my thoughts", "group_id": 88, "id": 50117}, {"user_id": 224, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1943, "date_created": 1297220175.0502281, "message": "@mko oh, i'm not suggesting it's a flaw, so much as wondering if it's emergent behavior that the ui should support... it will be interesting to see what will happen once thousands of people start using the system", "group_id": 88, "id": 50133}, {"user_id": 224, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1943, "date_created": 1297220323.9130459, "message": "the one danger i can see is that if each group has topics for general-interest subjects, you may end up not having critical mass for interesting conversations to occur", "group_id": 88, "id": 50136}, {"user_id": 224, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1943, "date_created": 1297219520.4372799, "message": "I've noticed something interesting happening on Convore, and I'm wondering if it will continue as more people join", "group_id": 88, "id": 50114}, {"user_id": 545, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1943, "date_created": 1297219550.9814999, "message": "Care to elaborate?", "group_id": 88, "id": 50115}, {"user_id": 224, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1943, "date_created": 1297219562.6205931, "message": "when i first joined, i saw that groups were at the top of the hierarchy, and topics beneath them", "group_id": 88, "id": 50116}, {"user_id": 224, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1943, "date_created": 1297220483.7449429, "message": "it's like the classic restaurant problem... you want it to be crowded enough that people think it must be a good place to eat, but not so crowded that no one can get a table", "group_id": 88, "id": 50139}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1943, "date_created": 1297222316.8418889, "message": "per se (a $300 / plate restaurant in NYC), early gmail, early dribbble, etc.", "group_id": 88, "id": 50143}, {"user_id": 224, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1943, "date_created": 1297219637.7914701, "message": "however, once some existing communities started coming in (like django) they created a group for them", "group_id": 88, "id": 50122}, {"user_id": 224, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1943, "date_created": 1297219672.3950281, "message": "so, someone created a beer topic in the django community and pointed out there was already a drinking group", "group_id": 88, "id": 50123}, {"user_id": 224, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1943, "date_created": 1297219689.4882319, "message": "which makes sense", "group_id": 88, "id": 50125}, {"user_id": 224, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1943, "date_created": 1297219722.9899509, "message": "but it means that thinking of topics as being under groups in a hierarchy might not reflect people's mental model", "group_id": 88, "id": 50126}, {"user_id": 224, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1943, "date_created": 1297219735.600415, "message": "it may be that forums are actually an intersection of groups and topics", "group_id": 88, "id": 50127}, {"user_id": 224, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1943, "date_created": 1297219782.8138959, "message": "some users might be interested in what anyone on convore has to say about beer", "group_id": 88, "id": 50128}, {"user_id": 224, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1943, "date_created": 1297219807.249258, "message": "others might just care about what their community thinks", "group_id": 88, "id": 50129}, {"user_id": 224, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1943, "date_created": 1297219859.5133071, "message": "brb", "group_id": 88, "id": 50131}, {"user_id": 545, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1943, "date_created": 1297220076.3967199, "message": "That's true, but I don't think that's something that Convore should necessarily be worried about, as that's an emergent behavior about how communities communicate, not an inherent flaw in their system. As of right now, a large number of groups seem to be comprised of the same somewhat small group of users.", "group_id": 88, "id": 50132}, {"user_id": 224, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1943, "date_created": 1297220248.1286409, "message": "possibly", "group_id": 88, "id": 50135}, {"user_id": 224, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1943, "date_created": 1297219858.1867771, "message": "speaking of which, this topic is making me thirsty", "group_id": 88, "id": 50130}, {"user_id": 545, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1943, "date_created": 1297220187.1454589, "message": "As that shifts to a situation where users are in a small number of groups compared to the large total body of groups, I think the communication will adapt and groups will feel more like individual communities and the other user making the comment about there already being a \"Drinking\" group in relation to your \"Beer\" topic might just be pointing you to a special-interest group that might be more relevant for that kind of conversation than the group you are in at the time of posting.", "group_id": 88, "id": 50134}, {"user_id": 224, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1943, "date_created": 1297220352.6209741, "message": "it relates a bit to the concerns i've had about group discovery.... which I think @ericflo and @leah have been working on", "group_id": 88, "id": 50137}, {"user_id": 224, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1943, "date_created": 1297220442.5281119, "message": "it's an interesting problem--creating a ui that balances getting enough critical mass for conversations to happen, but not so hundreds or thousands of people are just dumped in huge chatrooms, which is a problem that public irc channels in places like freenode can have", "group_id": 88, "id": 50138}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1943, "date_created": 1297222300.3985331, "message": "not getting a table works for some things.", "group_id": 88, "id": 50142}, {"user_id": 544, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1943, "date_created": 1297277127.3793399, "message": "When I ran a vB community, I created several forums (equivalent of groups, here) for specific topics, so that topical discussions would be neatly organized. I thought it was intuitive. Turns out, communities don't work that way at all, humans don't behave like neatly organized beings. Many grouped together in the \"general chat\" forum, and that's where most discussions took place, even those about topics I had dedicated forums for.", "group_id": 88, "id": 51848}, {"user_id": 544, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1943, "date_created": 1297277183.4658871, "message": "Django people will hang in the Django group, and discuss whatever topic they want to discuss\u2014django related or otherwise. Same will be for most every other community that comes in here en-masse as a community.", "group_id": 88, "id": 51866}, {"user_id": 544, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1943, "date_created": 1297277149.1266, "message": "People will naturally gravitate towards where they feel \"their\" friends hang out, or at least, the people they want to talk with and to.", "group_id": 88, "id": 51856}] |