convore.json/groups/hacker-news/python-ide/messages.json

[{"user_id": 18530, "stars": [], "topic_id": 13214, "date_created": 1300206621.2393789, "message": "So I'm expanding my skillset from C and Java over to more advanced Python libraries such as twisted and django. I'm used to using Eclipse, but frankly have no clue what IDEs are good for Python. I've been using gedit up until now! Not having auto-complete or error checking is getting insanely annoying.\n\nWhat IDEs do people use for their Python/twisted/django projects?", "group_id": 95, "id": 358093}, {"user_id": 10565, "stars": [], "topic_id": 13214, "date_created": 1300208432.1727769, "message": "sorry to mention it here but I need good content, not easy to find one", "group_id": 95, "id": 358593}, {"user_id": 10565, "stars": [], "topic_id": 13214, "date_created": 1300208390.0946009, "message": "ok, here someone knows about good book of python network programming", "group_id": 95, "id": 358588}, {"user_id": 18530, "stars": [], "topic_id": 13214, "date_created": 1300211882.7157731, "message": "Open a separate topic for that. Or use google.", "group_id": 95, "id": 359025}, {"user_id": 11205, "stars": [], "topic_id": 13214, "date_created": 1300213690.8223081, "message": "There is a plugin for Python in Eclipse, PyDev I believe. There is also an alpha of Sublime Text available for Linux but is $ for editor. There are many best to play with Google and do a little experimenting. IDE choices tend to be subjective and what one programmer uses might be unusable for another.", "group_id": 95, "id": 359190}, {"user_id": 12491, "stars": [], "topic_id": 13214, "date_created": 1300225868.4748421, "message": "PyDev plugin has auto-complete and error checking.", "group_id": 95, "id": 360386}, {"user_id": 18530, "stars": [], "topic_id": 13214, "date_created": 1300225993.5610631, "message": "Last I heard about PyDev though was that it simply wasn't ready for prime-time. This was a few years ago though... it's seen massive improvements since I trust?", "group_id": 95, "id": 360397}, {"user_id": 16440, "stars": [], "topic_id": 13214, "date_created": 1300256202.4460399, "message": "PyCharm might be interesting: http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/ - I'm currently using their PhpStorm product and like it very much. I'm about to purchase my first IDE from them :)", "group_id": 95, "id": 363241}, {"user_id": 18530, "stars": [], "topic_id": 13214, "date_created": 1300295937.469492, "message": "hmmm looks interesting. I'll be giving that a try and PyDev a try. To get $99 of my hard earned $$$ though PyCharm will have to be REALLY good.", "group_id": 95, "id": 367800}, {"user_id": 3849, "stars": [], "topic_id": 13214, "date_created": 1300304823.0300319, "message": "I'd say emacs or textmate... none of the IDEs that have code completion and fancier features either function well or look good.", "group_id": 95, "id": 369008}, {"user_id": 7924, "stars": [], "topic_id": 13214, "date_created": 1300345535.681499, "message": "I use gedit and it's worked well so far, but only for basic stuff (finished Zed Shaw's book a few months ago)", "group_id": 95, "id": 372043}, {"user_id": 3066, "stars": [], "topic_id": 13214, "date_created": 1300365989.132648, "message": "Wing is supposed to be one of the best - but it comes at a price.", "group_id": 95, "id": 373437}, {"user_id": 7378, "stars": [], "topic_id": 13214, "date_created": 1300394409.458339, "message": "@polterbayt Foundations of Python Network Programming is a good book.", "group_id": 95, "id": 377492}, {"user_id": 22043, "stars": [], "topic_id": 13214, "date_created": 1300406515.608494, "message": "@dorkitude totally, textmate is the way to go. hands down.", "group_id": 95, "id": 378670}, {"user_id": 3159, "stars": [], "topic_id": 13214, "date_created": 1300406569.4692819, "message": "hmm ^--convore bug?", "group_id": 95, "id": 378676}, {"user_id": 22043, "stars": [], "topic_id": 13214, "date_created": 1300406888.6040969, "message": "strange. Convore should make an easier way to report unexpected behavior", "group_id": 95, "id": 378699}, {"user_id": 3159, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300562053.6991429, "user_id": 744}], "topic_id": 13214, "date_created": 1300406551.75331, "message": "I use TextMate exclusively. I recommend going with a pure text editor, so the (possibly bad) habits of the IDE-dependent languages don't transfer to your Python code.\n\nA large part of becoming a python ninja is walking the line between explicitness and minimalism. Without feeling the pain of \"too much code\", it's impossible to train the latter. Can't count the number of times an excellent Java guy has come into Python with Eclipse/NetBeans/Wing, and singlehandedly ballooned the codebase.\n\n\"In Java, the tool (IDE) is the brush and the code is the canvas. In Python, the language is the brush and the machine is the canvas \u2013 the language and the tool are the same thing. In Java you enhance the IDE, in Python you enhance the language.\" --tomayko.com\n", "group_id": 95, "id": 378675}, {"user_id": 22043, "stars": [], "topic_id": 13214, "date_created": 1300406589.654269, "message": "maybe it's from where you copied/pasted it from", "group_id": 95, "id": 378677}, {"user_id": 22043, "stars": [], "topic_id": 13214, "date_created": 1300406597.2544179, "message": "might take the source style", "group_id": 95, "id": 378678}, {"user_id": 3159, "stars": [], "topic_id": 13214, "date_created": 1300406673.337245, "message": "@mttwrnr (Nope, I just tried laundering my clipboard in TextMate and had the same problem.)", "group_id": 95, "id": 378685}, {"user_id": 3795, "stars": [], "topic_id": 13214, "date_created": 1300407490.2559781, "message": "@dorkitude Something in your entry was pasted, so it treats it as code", "group_id": 95, "id": 378748}, {"user_id": 7971, "stars": [], "topic_id": 13214, "date_created": 1300428441.670074, "message": "After using vim extensively, I decided to try an actual IDE with project features and stuff. I used eclipse with pydev for a while, and its pretty good as a free IDE, specially after you tweak a bunch of things in it. In the end, I have decided to use Komodo for a variety of reasons besides 'it just works', like Remote Debugging, Mako templates, Excellent javascript code complete (never got eclipse to behave properly here), Dark background editor window (another issue with eclipse+python), etc. \n", "group_id": 95, "id": 380151}, {"user_id": 18530, "stars": [], "topic_id": 13214, "date_created": 1300716487.9095621, "message": "UPDATE: I used Aptana studio 2 (though I read 3 will have pydev built in) to learn Django. I was fairly impressed with how well pydev integrated with aptana, and how aptana had some neat integration with django. Thumbs up from me!", "group_id": 95, "id": 398188}, {"user_id": 5939, "stars": [], "topic_id": 13214, "date_created": 1300762131.1723189, "message": "+1 for pycharm. I used to use aptana studio, but the runserver instance that it loaded had path issues.", "group_id": 95, "id": 404615}]