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[{"user_id": 30714, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35433, "date_created": 1305514249.3402939, "message": "I'm working on (yet another) group chat app in my spare time and am realizing that the tools I've been using to make web sites are not appropriate.  I want to use an event-based library like Event Machine or Node, and am wondering which of these would be a better thing to learn given the job market in the bay area.  Are people that know Node especially valuable, or is Node still too esoteric?  Ruby seems to still be the main language used for modern web sites.When it comes to popularity in the job market, assuming i don't know either, which language should I learn?", "group_id": 95, "id": 1065722}, {"user_id": 15929, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35433, "date_created": 1305519298.1326981, "message": "it'll be very subjective. IMO you'll still need to use socket.io for node when it comes to chat. I don't think you can go wrong with either. it's just selecting which has more appeal to you. or learn both? it's not that hard. personally, I'm a node kinda guy", "group_id": 95, "id": 1066841}, {"user_id": 31125, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35433, "date_created": 1305534171.1652191, "message": "@simonify i am building the same kind of app for testing purposes with socket.io, mongoose, express... I must say that the libs are great but not mature (most examples on the web does not work anymore) and documentation is far from complete", "group_id": 95, "id": 1068645}, {"user_id": 14000, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35433, "date_created": 1305533549.8301921, "message": "I built http://prompt.im in about a day using Node.js. If you're building the app as just a bit of fun then I'd suggest Node but if you're looking to get  others to work on it with you, then Ruby.", "group_id": 95, "id": 1068560}, {"user_id": 31125, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35433, "date_created": 1305535866.2213781, "message": "If you did Prompt in a day you are really fast !! :)", "group_id": 95, "id": 1068853}, {"user_id": 14000, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35433, "date_created": 1305534901.115993, "message": "(NowJS uses socket.io btw)", "group_id": 95, "id": 1068715}, {"user_id": 31125, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35433, "date_created": 1305534191.788569, "message": "but its fun... but i would go the ruby way if you need something more mature", "group_id": 95, "id": 1068648}, {"user_id": 14000, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35433, "date_created": 1305534873.791507, "message": "I used NowJS, Mongoose & Express to build Prompt and once I found all the documentation for the libraries it was pretty easy/quick to build.", "group_id": 95, "id": 1068713}, {"user_id": 7771, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35433, "date_created": 1305535289.0518119, "message": "For a chat app choose node. As far as popularity in the job market rails wins though.", "group_id": 95, "id": 1068774}, {"user_id": 31125, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35433, "date_created": 1305535525.2005849, "message": "@simonify Thx for Nowjs. Seems great. Congrats for prompt, looks nice and works as expected :)", "group_id": 95, "id": 1068812}, {"user_id": 31125, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35433, "date_created": 1305538957.9870479, "message": "Ruby is not only Rails, its Eventmachine, Sinatra, Ramaze, ... with RoR, you'll never know what DHH will include or remove... In 3.1 there will be a sprite generator (!) and coffeescript. But he decided remove will_paginate (in 3.0) and still no i18n in the core Rails.", "group_id": 95, "id": 1069260}, {"user_id": 31125, "stars": [{"date_created": 1305566653.2005279, "user_id": 26065}, {"date_created": 1305570396.5652289, "user_id": 28560}], "topic_id": 35433, "date_created": 1305538994.1420989, "message": "and if you like ruby/python style of code and use Node.js, try Coffescript :-)", "group_id": 95, "id": 1069261}, {"user_id": 33347, "stars": [{"date_created": 1305562430.0916531, "user_id": 30714}, {"date_created": 1305566622.816076, "user_id": 26065}], "topic_id": 35433, "date_created": 1305538789.5612209, "message": "I'd say learn both. Node is young but it's definitely the future, Ruby and rails are probably a good bet for production right now.", "group_id": 95, "id": 1069251}, {"user_id": 30714, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35433, "date_created": 1305562476.0501349, "message": "Sounds like EventManager and Ruby are the thing to learn.  Node almost seems like a glue library, not something you'd spend all day developing an app in.", "group_id": 95, "id": 1072371}, {"user_id": 4935, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35433, "date_created": 1305564848.958638, "message": "use node. it's seriously amazing.", "group_id": 95, "id": 1072594}, {"user_id": 4935, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35433, "date_created": 1305564916.362618, "message": "...and glue is what apps are made of", "group_id": 95, "id": 1072598}]