convore.json/groups/indy-lean/welcome-to-indy-lean-startup-practitioner/messages.json

[{"user_id": 11476, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306521311.5362439, "message": "It's not on the same level as this or campfire, obviously:  http://z-chat.appspot.com/room/indylean", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207755}, {"user_id": 11476, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306521137.104378, "message": "I've never actually used Campfire, but I've heard that offerings such as this and Talker are just as good.", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207733}, {"user_id": 21129, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306521543.3797691, "message": "and it's expensive and went down enough for it to be a pain", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207787}, {"user_id": 11476, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306520897.989604, "message": "http://talkerapp.com/ is another", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207702}, {"user_id": 34450, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306521778.6954501, "message": "Nice", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207842}, {"user_id": 34450, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306520941.256995, "message": "The free aspect is nice -- I thought about setting up a Campfire chat room, but it's probably not worth it given the nature of our discussions.", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207711}, {"user_id": 34451, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306520609.6591549, "message": "This is a cool user interface...", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207670}, {"user_id": 11476, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306521278.7579999, "message": "This seems like a decent time to link to the chat solution that a couple of guys and myself (mostly just me) have thrown together in the past few months.", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207752}, {"user_id": 21129, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306521696.9697199, "message": "the most important requirements for me at work have turned out to be 1) stability 2) persistence/search 3) easy API integration (github, deployments, jenkins) 4) easy file sharing. We haven't used the media sharing stuff near as much as I thought, but we use it 90% for development stuff", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207827}, {"user_id": 21129, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306521764.0627871, "message": "last week I wrote a hook in to our deployment script to say who was deploying, to what environment (live/staging/beta) and then how long the deployment took, and it was literally in master in under an hour", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207839}, {"user_id": 21129, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306521882.3119011, "message": "yeah. The Amazon APIs all depend on having a solid wrapper library. Python has boto, which has been pretty decent and is now bordering on awesome", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207858}, {"user_id": 34450, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306522007.014056, "message": "@atoumey You get cool popups when you reference someone -- I like it.", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207870}, {"user_id": 34450, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306522314.1070449, "message": "I think they're an interesting story on the bootstrapped/somewhat lean startup side as well.", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207908}, {"user_id": 34450, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306522782.3085091, "message": "I know it was a non-trivial amount for 37signals", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207982}, {"user_id": 11476, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306520813.311342, "message": "It seems that in the past year there's been a lot of movement into the online, persistent chat space.  This is a good example.", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207697}, {"user_id": 34450, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306520523.4036341, "message": "Oops", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207659}, {"user_id": 34450, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306521683.771035, "message": "(I made you guys admins, btw. Wes since you probably know what you're doing, and Toumey because you were always king of IRC.)", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207825}, {"user_id": 34450, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306521966.248704, "message": "Ah, I haven't actually used most of those services through the API -- I actually meant their Product Advertising API and Marketplace Web Services (MWS). They're XML-based, having been ported from SOAP originally.", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207866}, {"user_id": 34450, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306521988.391716, "message": "The Ruby gem support in those areas is pretty miserable, but nothing seemed much better. I've considered JRuby + Java libraries, but haven't had time to look into it yet.", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207868}, {"user_id": 34450, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306522019.3435121, "message": "Do they support #hashtags in any special fashion?", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207871}, {"user_id": 21129, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306522117.7363231, "message": "The amazon AWS api is a similar XML-based SOAPish thing. Contributing to boto is kind of rough because of that and it's easy to make little mistakes that are hard to debug", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207882}, {"user_id": 21129, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306522438.541887, "message": "reading about what they've done, it's pushed me more in to preferring to work on something I will actually be a user of.", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207943}, {"user_id": 34450, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306522452.8066339, "message": "Yeah, agreed", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207947}, {"user_id": 34450, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306520509.505564, "message": "Ha ha, nice", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207652}, {"user_id": 34450, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306521587.1840119, "message": "What is z-chat written in, Toumey?", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207794}, {"user_id": 34450, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306521619.3862989, "message": "Err, ZeeChat?", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207803}, {"user_id": 34450, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306521800.584295, "message": "I'm loving the recent API revolution. Working with Amazon's API is so archaic compared to others I've seen and used.", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207846}, {"user_id": 21129, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306521494.691129, "message": "we used campfire for a couple of years and replaced it with hipchat ~6 months ago", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207777}, {"user_id": 21129, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306521523.402926, "message": "because campfire sucks balls as far as ensuring a chat message you think you sent was actually received, which can cause a lot of communication pain", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207782}, {"user_id": 11476, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306521928.2325649, "message": "@kyleashipley It's Python on the Google AppEngine", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207864}, {"user_id": 34450, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306521556.3756521, "message": "The really killer feature that makes Campfire attractive is just the ability to share media in a chat room, but it sounds like Hipchat has that too", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207790}, {"user_id": 21129, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306521821.021663, "message": "simple REST apis are sweet.", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207848}, {"user_id": 21129, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306522158.3651481, "message": "luckily, boto is on github so when we hit bugs, fork + pull request == win", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207887}, {"user_id": 34450, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306522772.102545, "message": "Not sure -- I haven't read a ton about theirs", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207981}, {"user_id": 34450, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306522801.6550369, "message": "But I don't have hard financials for either. If I ever meet one of the Github guys, I'll make sure to ask. :)", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207986}, {"user_id": 34450, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306522052.560771, "message": "(I think the answer is no.)", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207876}, {"user_id": 34450, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306522183.8433149, "message": "Yeah -- I've really just started getting more hardcore into Github, and I'm loving it more and more.", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207893}, {"user_id": 21129, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306522164.958936, "message": "I <3 github so much", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207888}, {"user_id": 21129, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306521826.3155489, "message": "    # Do Hipchat notification here\n    if env.get('hipchat_api_token'):\n        notification_start = datetime.datetime.now()\n        endpoint = \"https://api.hipchat.com/v1/rooms/message\"\n        context = {\n            'auth_token': env.hipchat_api_token,\n            'room_id': env.hipchat_room,\n            'color': env.get('hipchat_color', 'green'),\n            'from': 'Deployment',\n            'message': '%s is deploying: deploy:%s %s up' % \\\n            (os.environ.get('USER', 'unknown'), env._deployment_name, _get_gen_target().lower()),\n        }\n        params = urllib.urlencode(context)\n        url = '%s?%s' % (endpoint, params)\n\n        request = urllib2.Request(url)\n        response = urllib2.urlopen(request)", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207850}, {"user_id": 21129, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306522059.590621, "message": "Not sure, but doesn't look like it", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207877}, {"user_id": 34450, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306522199.293663, "message": "I've toyed with it for a long time, but haven't done anything too exciting with it yet.", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207895}, {"user_id": 21129, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306522285.5605879, "message": "it just keeps getting better and better. We're going to be migrating to github from redmine for issue tracking soon hopefully and we just recently switched to using topic branches + pull requests so that we can take advantage of their code review tools", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207901}, {"user_id": 21129, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306522335.774487, "message": "I've been looking for a good code review tool for at least 6 years and theirs is the first one that satisfies", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207915}, {"user_id": 21129, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306522360.558362, "message": "definitely. It's a pretty cool story how everything came together. Their business philosophy and development philosophy in general", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207920}, {"user_id": 21129, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306522912.880774, "message": "as far as unrelated consulting for 37signals?", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1208005}, {"user_id": 34450, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306522485.4599359, "message": "I'm also really interested in that model of bootstrapping + selling your knowledge instead of doing random unrelated consulting. Like Github + git consulting and blogging on the side.", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207958}, {"user_id": 21129, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306522557.1233959, "message": "yeah, the training aspect of what they do is pretty interesting. Do you know if that was a major source of their revenue in the beginning?", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1207966}, {"user_id": 34450, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306526120.293515, "message": "Sorry, sprint review. Related consulting. I think 37signals did more of it once they moved into their new office, but (relatively) early on they did things like writing \"Getting Real\" and selling it, doing Rails consulting alongside developing Rails, etc.", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1208413}, {"user_id": 34455, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306527295.628823, "message": "I haven't been huge into any group chat programs yet, this might give me the impetus to do it.", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1208551}, {"user_id": 34450, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306527485.209245, "message": "Interesting -- there don't seem to be any Convore desktop clients yet. Maybe an interesting project to try out MacRuby finally...", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1208567}, {"user_id": 34450, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306528200.4087269, "message": "There's a halfway decent Chrome extension here: https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/dmhfcoidfigfhmdcikgekmcjdbhejlpk", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1208623}, {"user_id": 34455, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306527272.6516831, "message": "overall, pretty exciting platform here", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1208545}, {"user_id": 21129, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306529879.4148049, "message": "@kyleashipley they do have an API, so it definitely seems possible. I saw someone on twitter linking an android convore app they were building", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1208868}, {"user_id": 34450, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306529956.557847, "message": "@weswinham I just cracked open (metaphorically -- it's a PDF) my copy of MacRuby in Action, so I'll keep you posted. The API looks nice and JSONy and RESTful, so it seems like the bigger challenge is definitely figuring out native apps.", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1208881}, {"user_id": 21129, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306534325.0148859, "message": "I run it as a chrome \"app\" on ubuntu and I don't feel any hurting, personally", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1209369}, {"user_id": 11476, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306533492.074887, "message": "I can see the need for an Android app, but why a desktop client?  For webkit at least, I think desktop notifications alone would eliminate my need for a desktop client.", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1209273}, {"user_id": 11476, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306533746.496408, "message": "...meaning that webkit (Chrome, at least) already has desktop notifications, and I can't think of any reasons beyond notifications that I would want a desktop client.", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1209301}, {"user_id": 11476, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306534949.5866771, "message": "Of course, getting to play with a certain toolset is plenty of reason on it's own :)", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1209471}, {"user_id": 34450, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306901566.93152, "message": "I still find web apps largely unsatisfying compared to native apps on the whole. I generally prefer thin", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1248029}, {"user_id": 34450, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306901631.675374, "message": "Oops...thin native clients with persistent online storage.", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1248042}, {"user_id": 21129, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1306963665.43238, "message": "I'm interested to hear what you don't like about the convore app in chrome. Interface stuff?", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1258919}, {"user_id": 21129, "stars": [], "topic_id": 37080, "date_created": 1307566098.3662119, "message": "lol. I just found a link to this room in a search I did on the hipchat api", "group_id": 10203, "id": 1342461}]