convore.json/groups/kynetx/ent-vs-app-persistent-variables/messages.json

[{"user_id": 37659, "stars": [], "topic_id": 43532, "date_created": 1312906632.1108019, "message": "... assuming client A and B are using the same app", "group_id": 236, "id": 1832554}, {"user_id": 37659, "stars": [], "topic_id": 43532, "date_created": 1312906591.4392371, "message": "So, for example if client A causes app:foo to equal 'bar', then client B would then (after the page reloads or something causes the ruleset to evaluate) have app:foo == 'bar' on their side", "group_id": 236, "id": 1832550}, {"user_id": 37659, "stars": [], "topic_id": 43532, "date_created": 1312906420.918442, "message": "Reading http://docs.kynetx.com/docs/Persistent_Variables and wanted clarification on these two variables. It appears to me that ent is just cookied data specific to the client, whereas app is server-side data specific to the app. Is that right?", "group_id": 236, "id": 1832539}, {"user_id": 30494, "stars": [], "topic_id": 43532, "date_created": 1312909938.2546871, "message": "yes persistent app vars work the way you described", "group_id": 236, "id": 1832890}, {"user_id": 30494, "stars": [], "topic_id": 43532, "date_created": 1312909998.03985, "message": "but persistent ent vars are stored server side too", "group_id": 236, "id": 1832899}, {"user_id": 30494, "stars": [], "topic_id": 43532, "date_created": 1312910203.635021, "message": "it is true that if you erase the kynetx cookie you will lose the persistent ent vars on the server", "group_id": 236, "id": 1832928}, {"user_id": 37659, "stars": [], "topic_id": 43532, "date_created": 1312915429.5039771, "message": "makes perfect sense, thanks!", "group_id": 236, "id": 1833580}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 43532, "date_created": 1312922106.573612, "message": "just to clarify, ent variables are stored BY cookie, but not IN the cookie. They are useful for storing user (entity) specific values for the operation of your app.", "group_id": 236, "id": 1834356}, {"user_id": 37659, "stars": [], "topic_id": 43532, "date_created": 1313066630.252033, "message": "I'm curious to know how Kynetx persists user state across sites if the ent cookie is set on the current site. For example: a user authenticates (via some injected markup -- no iframe). I take the resulting user id from the successful auth and save that as an entity variable such as ent:user_id. At this point, I'm assuming there is a cookie set on that domain -- foo.com. If the user now visits bar.com how does Kynetx \"know\" the value of ent:user_id, since there is no cookie on bar.com?", "group_id": 236, "id": 1847790}, {"user_id": 37659, "stars": [], "topic_id": 43532, "date_created": 1313147584.1701541, "message": "ahhh.. does Kynetx use an iframe and then set/get session cookie on Kynetx server? I'm seeing a cookie on kobj.net named SESSION_ID", "group_id": 236, "id": 1856328}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 43532, "date_created": 1313513624.763773, "message": "no iframe, but yes, the cookie is set on kobj.net, not the domain of the page you are looking at.", "group_id": 236, "id": 1884828}, {"user_id": 30462, "stars": [], "topic_id": 43532, "date_created": 1313553874.1976669, "message": "Any guidance for backing up persistent variables? Should I use an external datastore instead?", "group_id": 236, "id": 1889569}, {"user_id": 30462, "stars": [], "topic_id": 43532, "date_created": 1313804203.680197, "message": "\"Persistent variables are currently limited to approximately 1 million characters each.\" Is this still the case?", "group_id": 236, "id": 1914397}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 43532, "date_created": 1314037321.056344, "message": "well, depends on Horsty's mood. It's more like 2 million chars each. :)", "group_id": 236, "id": 1932378}, {"user_id": 763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 43532, "date_created": 1314037345.293561, "message": "keep in mind that it's data size, not string length. so if you have data in a complex format, you may run into it sooner.", "group_id": 236, "id": 1932381}]