convore.json/groups/pycon-2011/dependency-management-with-puppet/messages.json

[{"user_id": 603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12482, "date_created": 1299881174.0426891, "message": "i see, that makes sense.", "group_id": 373, "id": 327850}, {"user_id": 6310, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12482, "date_created": 1299880633.2070229, "message": "http://rcrowley.org/talks/pycon-2011/ <-- slides", "group_id": 373, "id": 327753}, {"user_id": 6310, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12482, "date_created": 1299881310.9902589, "message": "does puppet play nicely with virtualenv?", "group_id": 373, "id": 327891}, {"user_id": 20582, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12482, "date_created": 1299880934.1451111, "message": "@mattg what do you mean?", "group_id": 373, "id": 327817}, {"user_id": 603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12482, "date_created": 1299881131.5494919, "message": "he mentioned that if puppet doesn't see a resource running, it will start it up. That sounds like what upstart/supervisor does. I was under the impression that puppet was more for provisioning.", "group_id": 373, "id": 327837}, {"user_id": 6310, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12482, "date_created": 1299881161.7590821, "message": "i think puppet does it only when it is invoked, which is different from a supervisor that always monitors a program", "group_id": 373, "id": 327843}, {"user_id": 6310, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12482, "date_created": 1299881588.2822621, "message": "probably not necessary, as I think puppet assumes it has a full server dedicated to one task", "group_id": 373, "id": 327963}, {"user_id": 20508, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12482, "date_created": 1299881890.7479589, "message": "I'd appreciate elaboration on that... or maybe Richard will cover it in this part of his talk...", "group_id": 373, "id": 328055}, {"user_id": 6310, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12482, "date_created": 1299880995.4055991, "message": "probably doable with `exec`, but maybe he's getting to it later", "group_id": 373, "id": 327823}, {"user_id": 20508, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12482, "date_created": 1299881586.5595651, "message": "@metachris Right. AFAIK, the best practice with Puppet is to run it from cron every ~30 minutes, but that's for reasons other than service monitoring. You'd still want supervisor or monit for that. (My puppet config ensures that supervisord is running, for instance)", "group_id": 373, "id": 327962}, {"user_id": 603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12482, "date_created": 1299880911.009536, "message": "so does puppet also have a behavior like upstart/supervisor?", "group_id": 373, "id": 327809}, {"user_id": 20792, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12482, "date_created": 1299881611.3524289, "message": "where is this talk happening ?", "group_id": 373, "id": 327972}, {"user_id": 20582, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12482, "date_created": 1299881696.0623269, "message": "puppet in the crontab", "group_id": 373, "id": 327992}, {"user_id": 20582, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12482, "date_created": 1299881626.595391, "message": "@callahad that's dangerous in prod env though", "group_id": 373, "id": 327976}, {"user_id": 20508, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12482, "date_created": 1299882057.8957169, "message": "@rytis True, or if you manually stop a service to do maintenance, and then Puppet starts it back up on you...", "group_id": 373, "id": 328086}, {"user_id": 20582, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12482, "date_created": 1299882087.9792709, "message": "yup, that scenario also applies", "group_id": 373, "id": 328091}, {"user_id": 6310, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12482, "date_created": 1299881654.0919139, "message": "@dfamorato II", "group_id": 373, "id": 327981}, {"user_id": 20508, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12482, "date_created": 1299881679.7924681, "message": "@rytis The cron part, or the watching Supervisor from Puppet part?", "group_id": 373, "id": 327989}, {"user_id": 20582, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12482, "date_created": 1299881719.13678, "message": "you accidentally mess up your config and 5 mins later all prod goes boom", "group_id": 373, "id": 327997}, {"user_id": 20582, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12482, "date_created": 1299882053.8573871, "message": "so what i tend to do, make config changes, then noop on one server, if i like the result, run it for real on one server only. if that worked, run on all 100 or whatever you have", "group_id": 373, "id": 328084}, {"user_id": 20582, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12482, "date_created": 1299882003.8657539, "message": "@callahad i mean if you misconfigure something on puppet master and your agent \"dials in\" and pulls the wrong config it's a bad thing", "group_id": 373, "id": 328077}, {"user_id": 4748, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12482, "date_created": 1299955315.019769, "message": "I thought that a puppet talk got bumped a day.", "group_id": 373, "id": 334584}, {"user_id": 4748, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12482, "date_created": 1299955110.647815, "message": "When and where is this talk? There seem to have been schedule changes...", "group_id": 373, "id": 334522}, {"user_id": 20508, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12482, "date_created": 1299955298.494071, "message": "@offby1 The online schedule and the Conventionist app are both up to date.", "group_id": 373, "id": 334579}, {"user_id": 19652, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12482, "date_created": 1299955164.170361, "message": "Yesterday after noon", "group_id": 373, "id": 334542}, {"user_id": 20508, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12482, "date_created": 1299955446.938271, "message": "Nope, Puppet, Intro to Tornado, and Teaching Python in High SChool all kind of got rotated.", "group_id": 373, "id": 334625}, {"user_id": 4748, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12482, "date_created": 1299955573.3431051, "message": "Ah. Crap. Okay", "group_id": 373, "id": 334665}]