convore.json/groups/pycon-2011/hidden-treasures-in-the-standard-library/messages.json

[{"user_id": 1175, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040700.764823, "message": "Formatter, etc.*", "group_id": 373, "id": 342303}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300039065.594985, "user_id": 19655}, {"date_created": 1300039249.3636019, "user_id": 20599}, {"date_created": 1300039754.65328, "user_id": 14026}], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300038892.0163529, "message": "Doug FTW", "group_id": 373, "id": 342023}, {"user_id": 21233, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300039342.920161, "message": "what presentation software is he using?", "group_id": 373, "id": 342059}, {"user_id": 19788, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300039402.1588449, "message": "Initial guess looks like Keynote -- pretty easy to do nice animations like that", "group_id": 373, "id": 342064}, {"user_id": 21233, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300038702.3734579, "message": "I'm guessing this talk is going to be pretty busy :-)", "group_id": 373, "id": 342006}, {"user_id": 14874, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300039668.491581, "message": "delicious, malicious", "group_id": 373, "id": 342090}, {"user_id": 21233, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300039930.7276869, "message": "*shrugs* never been a problem in 10 years of using zodb...", "group_id": 373, "id": 342144}, {"user_id": 20984, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040132.337826, "message": "logger.exception(exc) would make me less sad too", "group_id": 373, "id": 342167}, {"user_id": 20783, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040167.7398839, "message": "This part of the talk is for people who don't care about being able to debug their code.", "group_id": 373, "id": 342174}, {"user_id": 19788, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040190.0694571, "message": "see", "group_id": 373, "id": 342181}, {"user_id": 21105, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300039553.780421, "message": "@dnozay Thanks!", "group_id": 373, "id": 342080}, {"user_id": 20783, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300039640.1010129, "message": "(except that pickle is useless for persistent data.)", "group_id": 373, "id": 342085}, {"user_id": 20783, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300040205.6518741, "user_id": 1175}, {"date_created": 1300040254.0828371, "user_id": 1243}], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300039895.1093659, "message": "And it's not versioned, so it's really easy to have a mismatch between what your code expects and what your serialized data was ???", "group_id": 373, "id": 342139}, {"user_id": 21192, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040078.9585719, "message": "@chriswithers13 except you can't use zodb in an another language", "group_id": 373, "id": 342159}, {"user_id": 20967, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300039347.740037, "message": "I can already tell by these slides that this guy is an awesome presenter.", "group_id": 373, "id": 342061}, {"user_id": 21105, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300039463.0758779, "message": "Yippee", "group_id": 373, "id": 342069}, {"user_id": 21105, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300039467.50109, "message": "I'll stand in the back", "group_id": 373, "id": 342071}, {"user_id": 20765, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300039668.226557, "message": "malicious delicious pickles!", "group_id": 373, "id": 342089}, {"user_id": 20967, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300039677.0559311, "message": "Doh!", "group_id": 373, "id": 342093}, {"user_id": 20783, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300039783.5944531, "message": "It's schemaless.", "group_id": 373, "id": 342122}, {"user_id": 21233, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300039793.659826, "message": "and?", "group_id": 373, "id": 342124}, {"user_id": 291, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040103.7694781, "message": "his JSON <-> Python object hack is clever, but it's not really the same thing as pickle", "group_id": 373, "id": 342164}, {"user_id": 19788, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040133.4889729, "message": "@habnabit Works ok as a rinky-dink example", "group_id": 373, "id": 342168}, {"user_id": 20783, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040134.755847, "message": "aaaaaa this is an antipattern.", "group_id": 373, "id": 342169}, {"user_id": 20984, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040150.7848811, "message": "NOOOOOOOOO", "group_id": 373, "id": 342172}, {"user_id": 19788, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040206.9582031, "message": "it's going to be okay :-)", "group_id": 373, "id": 342188}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300039359.0335209, "message": "@chriswithers13 I wish I knew", "group_id": 373, "id": 342063}, {"user_id": 21105, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300039441.5826459, "message": "I'm on my way.  Is the room packed?", "group_id": 373, "id": 342066}, {"user_id": 19403, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300039740.0399909, "message": "OAuth lite signing.", "group_id": 373, "id": 342112}, {"user_id": 21233, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300039775.33146, "message": "pickle is *fine* for persistent data, what makes you say it isn't?", "group_id": 373, "id": 342120}, {"user_id": 20984, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300039488.515878, "message": "@clarkwgriswold there's fragmentation, seats here and there", "group_id": 373, "id": 342074}, {"user_id": 21233, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300039594.392045, "message": "ooh, Mike Bayer won't like him for mentioning PARSEDECLTYPES ;-)", "group_id": 373, "id": 342081}, {"user_id": 20783, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040044.1933031, "message": "oh man that except block makes me sad. :(", "group_id": 373, "id": 342150}, {"user_id": 1982, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040482.5965109, "message": "has anyone tried logbook? https://github.com/mitsuhiko/logbook", "group_id": 373, "id": 342249}, {"user_id": 12124, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300040418.6097081, "user_id": 10411}, {"date_created": 1300040424.8118241, "user_id": 1243}], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040405.3262501, "message": "2.7 has a nicer dict format: http://docs.python.org/library/logging.html#logging.dictConfig", "group_id": 373, "id": 342231}, {"user_id": 12124, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040456.6912589, "message": "django backported it to python 2.5+ for their upcoming 1.3 release", "group_id": 373, "id": 342243}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040607.7142911, "message": "I hardly ever use csv dialects, for instance", "group_id": 373, "id": 342289}, {"user_id": 12124, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040007.667124, "message": "http://jsonpickle.github.com", "group_id": 373, "id": 342147}, {"user_id": 20783, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040215.271338, "message": "And then your user has a useless message, which you can't do anything with.", "group_id": 373, "id": 342189}, {"user_id": 20783, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040564.9185979, "message": "So the hidden treasures were... csv, hmac, and logging ???", "group_id": 373, "id": 342272}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300039449.1324601, "message": "@clarkwgriswold yes", "group_id": 373, "id": 342067}, {"user_id": 20967, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300039657.2859969, "message": "Mmmm... delicious pickles.", "group_id": 373, "id": 342087}, {"user_id": 14026, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300039743.716711, "message": "Doug is clear and insightful.  His talks rock!", "group_id": 373, "id": 342113}, {"user_id": 19403, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040542.634943, "message": "The logger module needs a level of abstraction.  It really is a \"hidden\" treasure.", "group_id": 373, "id": 342268}, {"user_id": 19403, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300040309.5544839, "user_id": 20611}, {"date_created": 1300040311.101862, "user_id": 10411}, {"date_created": 1300040324.9710059, "user_id": 1175}, {"date_created": 1300040330.4199741, "user_id": 19655}, {"date_created": 1300040352.5384951, "user_id": 20689}, {"date_created": 1300040388.516849, "user_id": 14874}, {"date_created": 1300040448.617136, "user_id": 927}], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040300.8056009, "message": "Anyone else think that the standard logger module is flexible  but way too convoluted?", "group_id": 373, "id": 342209}, {"user_id": 21233, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040362.443495, "message": "I was", "group_id": 373, "id": 342225}, {"user_id": 19403, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040662.119204, "message": "I had different expectations from the abstract.", "group_id": 373, "id": 342297}, {"user_id": 1175, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300040398.9608531, "user_id": 14874}], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040305.3269949, "message": "So much code to set up one logger", "group_id": 373, "id": 342211}, {"user_id": 21233, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300040317.3190761, "user_id": 21192}], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040305.470031, "message": "*shrugs* there are other language?! </trollface>", "group_id": 373, "id": 342212}, {"user_id": 14874, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300039892.560365, "message": "that's cool, pickling to json", "group_id": 373, "id": 342138}, {"user_id": 21233, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040061.1988051, "message": "missed it.", "group_id": 373, "id": 342154}, {"user_id": 20783, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040075.2801349, "message": "'except Exception as exc: print \"ERROR\", exc'", "group_id": 373, "id": 342158}, {"user_id": 14874, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040119.535131, "message": "@johnpaulett thanks for the link, will check it out", "group_id": 373, "id": 342165}, {"user_id": 291, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040177.673954, "message": "@alexplugaru i don't think anybody's trying to sell anybody else on zodb here... it has it's place", "group_id": 373, "id": 342176}, {"user_id": 20689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040187.5965199, "message": "which is not me", "group_id": 373, "id": 342179}, {"user_id": 21233, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300040377.3109119, "user_id": 1844}], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040335.904634, "message": "yep, and the ConfigParser for configuring it is f'ing heinous...", "group_id": 373, "id": 342219}, {"user_id": 21233, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040394.951942, "message": "/me is working in a config package to help, but it's gonna be a while..", "group_id": 373, "id": 342230}, {"user_id": 21260, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040440.7828469, "message": "hi", "group_id": 373, "id": 342241}, {"user_id": 21260, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040488.4623189, "message": "I have no idea what I'm doing here, is funny", "group_id": 373, "id": 342251}, {"user_id": 21233, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040555.6051061, "message": "as a separate module or burried in their shit?", "group_id": 373, "id": 342270}, {"user_id": 20689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040184.6145489, "message": "this is for people who give code to users to run", "group_id": 373, "id": 342178}, {"user_id": 20689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040205.1073339, "message": "just throw the exception and crash, I'll pick it up in the log later and fix it", "group_id": 373, "id": 342187}, {"user_id": 20689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040582.784677, "message": "and the exception handler, I guess", "group_id": 373, "id": 342280}, {"user_id": 20689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040601.2110679, "message": "that JSON serialization trick was pretty slick", "group_id": 373, "id": 342287}, {"user_id": 20783, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040613.5779209, "message": "The summary gav... yeah.", "group_id": 373, "id": 342293}, {"user_id": 14874, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040624.5782559, "message": "@dnozay no, i'm not creating custom handlers, i just have code to setup the standard ones in the same way.", "group_id": 373, "id": 342294}, {"user_id": 20984, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040226.4356, "message": "i like how there's a red lifeline to this talk", "group_id": 373, "id": 342193}, {"user_id": 14874, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040467.63625, "message": "I have a setup_logging() method I end up calling from a bunch of my apps. :-/", "group_id": 373, "id": 342244}, {"user_id": 20689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040529.5529211, "message": "@andreiaflx it's convore, IRC for people who don't speak in slashes :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 342263}, {"user_id": 20783, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040644.756851, "message": "I was hoping for cmd/rlcompleter", "group_id": 373, "id": 342295}, {"user_id": 291, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040751.3749261, "message": "i also had different expectations...", "group_id": 373, "id": 342310}, {"user_id": 20984, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040355.7756059, "message": "@mwhooker are you referring to basicConfig?", "group_id": 373, "id": 342222}, {"user_id": 1175, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040364.2083271, "message": "@chriswithers13 and buggy. Can never get that inheritance to work as documented", "group_id": 373, "id": 342226}, {"user_id": 20984, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040501.085866, "message": "@brainsik are you using NullHandler's ?", "group_id": 373, "id": 342256}, {"user_id": 21233, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040580.455183, "message": "heh, limited time ;-)", "group_id": 373, "id": 342278}, {"user_id": 1175, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040610.6781609, "message": "I was hoping for a lot more from the talk abstract", "group_id": 373, "id": 342291}, {"user_id": 21260, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040763.1358321, "message": "@reidkleckner thanks, I dont speak english very well.", "group_id": 373, "id": 342311}, {"user_id": 20984, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040781.072134, "message": "maybe not a hidden treasure if the doc mentions it though, or maybe it's part of tl;dr use NullHandler in libs though", "group_id": 373, "id": 342313}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300040646.048784, "user_id": 1243}], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040585.770824, "message": "@habnabit It was more how they were used", "group_id": 373, "id": 342282}, {"user_id": 1175, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040678.8085451, "message": "@dnozay was talking about setting up the handler and the formatted", "group_id": 373, "id": 342298}, {"user_id": 20984, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040699.497859, "message": "yes, I was referring to coding libs", "group_id": 373, "id": 342302}, {"user_id": 20783, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300040766.291642, "message": "It should've covered more topics with fewer words.", "group_id": 373, "id": 342312}, {"user_id": 1760, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300042618.3726809, "message": "The presentation software was Keynote with the \"Magic Move\" feature to do the animations.", "group_id": 373, "id": 342498}, {"user_id": 19005, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12838, "date_created": 1300042414.9762001, "message": "I've had fun making python 1-liners using csv to slice'n'dice csv files", "group_id": 373, "id": 342474}]