convore.json/groups/pycon-2011/ide-smackdown/messages.json

[{"user_id": 20802, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299948653.625459, "user_id": 19652}, {"date_created": 1299949566.332665, "user_id": 12660}, {"date_created": 1299949008.515204, "user_id": 1822}], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299948564.1119449, "message": "I hope someone on the panel is representing vim", "group_id": 373, "id": 333468}, {"user_id": 14595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299948580.8111, "message": "Todd forgot to say that Komodo now supports Django nicely", "group_id": 373, "id": 333473}, {"user_id": 1243, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299948986.657516, "user_id": 20802}], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299948943.8761449, "message": "@ericasberry That gives me great-sadness.", "group_id": 373, "id": 333551}, {"user_id": 20802, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299949605.4329619, "user_id": 1243}, {"date_created": 1299949511.623652, "user_id": 4107}], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299949356.741528, "message": "Hmmm, PyCon discount for PyCharm?  ;)", "group_id": 373, "id": 333633}, {"user_id": 12683, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299949852.130722, "user_id": 12660}, {"date_created": 1299949629.6761191, "user_id": 1822}], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299949609.2537401, "message": "vim++", "group_id": 373, "id": 333691}, {"user_id": 20420, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299950538.091085, "message": "ok, who won? (visual studio on linux !!??)", "group_id": 373, "id": 333939}, {"user_id": 20420, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299949300.4161251, "user_id": 4107}], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299949251.0567491, "message": "I'm in the pypes talk, so I'm counting on you guys to let me know who wins, LOL", "group_id": 373, "id": 333601}, {"user_id": 7372, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299948660.7267311, "message": "I was wondering about vim, but seemed to really say straight IDE and IDE products", "group_id": 373, "id": 333489}, {"user_id": 20802, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299949409.060286, "user_id": 15291}], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299949216.5590639, "message": "I have to say PyCharm is lookin' pretty sweet", "group_id": 373, "id": 333597}, {"user_id": 9159, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299950265.915653, "message": "I believe Wing is the only IDE here written in Python.", "group_id": 373, "id": 333878}, {"user_id": 1243, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299949270.10165, "message": "@ericasberry I need to see if I can finagle myself a license. The early access builds were really nice.", "group_id": 373, "id": 333605}, {"user_id": 20802, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299948671.963114, "message": "But emacs is represented - LOL", "group_id": 373, "id": 333492}, {"user_id": 19880, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299949597.057487, "message": "PyCharm is really nice.  They had a 50% off when in beta.  They also have a free trial.", "group_id": 373, "id": 333687}, {"user_id": 19880, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299950094.9455891, "message": "I know they added Django templates, but I don't think any other languages", "group_id": 373, "id": 333835}, {"user_id": 20162, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299949308.5454409, "message": "not at this session, but +1 for PyCharm. Secondary +1 to emacs...", "group_id": 373, "id": 333617}, {"user_id": 19880, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299949976.280935, "message": "First was Visual Studio.", "group_id": 373, "id": 333797}, {"user_id": 19880, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299950267.775388, "message": "Obviously not a problem for Visual Studio... and emacs I don't need to mention.", "group_id": 373, "id": 333880}, {"user_id": 20763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299949647.5447581, "message": "PyCharm django template code completion is pretty sweet", "group_id": 373, "id": 333702}, {"user_id": 11639, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299949960.222753, "message": "which was the first IDE that presented in this panel?", "group_id": 373, "id": 333792}, {"user_id": 19880, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299950230.032311, "user_id": 20802}], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299950215.2097781, "message": "Wing USED to but not anymore.  Not for PyCharm.  Don't know Komodo.", "group_id": 373, "id": 333866}, {"user_id": 20763, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299950069.9637899, "message": "Does wingide have better support for other languages now?", "group_id": 373, "id": 333825}, {"user_id": 20802, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299949677.7791181, "message": "@gthank Awesome ... the fact that plugin exists makes me want to try it even more ...", "group_id": 373, "id": 333715}, {"user_id": 20802, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299949934.661989, "message": "ooh I like that source assistant thingy in wingware", "group_id": 373, "id": 333787}, {"user_id": 12660, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299949692.8570621, "message": "I normally use vim, but there are nice things about pycharm and the others", "group_id": 373, "id": 333718}, {"user_id": 14595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299950240.3601899, "message": "Pretty sure the answer is no for Komodo too", "group_id": 373, "id": 333874}, {"user_id": 1243, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299949636.6814251, "message": "@ericasberry If you give it a go, try the vi emulation plugin. It's solid, though I constantly miss my vim plugins and .vimrc tweaks.", "group_id": 373, "id": 333698}, {"user_id": 14595, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299950658.177814, "user_id": 20802}], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299950646.5120671, "message": "@ericasberry I'm a macvim fan and heavy user. Sadly I can't expect noob co-workers to figure it out and learn to code at the same time. If it was my shop it'd be a requirement", "group_id": 373, "id": 333968}, {"user_id": 20802, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300324110.49877, "user_id": 20265}], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299949717.9008479, "message": "I currently alternate between vim and Eclipse with PyDev (I'm a Java refuge)", "group_id": 373, "id": 333730}, {"user_id": 20802, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299949744.8531849, "message": "I use vwrapper in Eclipse but it's buggy", "group_id": 373, "id": 333739}, {"user_id": 14595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299949720.888711, "message": "@ericasberry I think there's vi emulation in PyCharm and Komodo", "group_id": 373, "id": 333733}, {"user_id": 14595, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299949827.7296109, "message": "@smithkevinc That's good to know and nice to have", "group_id": 373, "id": 333766}, {"user_id": 20795, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299949752.326669, "message": "Also vi support in Wing.", "group_id": 373, "id": 333741}, {"user_id": 20802, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299950575.2366631, "message": "YES A VIM BROTHER!", "group_id": 373, "id": 333951}, {"user_id": 19880, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299949962.8331361, "message": "Anyone try the new features in Wing 4?", "group_id": 373, "id": 333793}, {"user_id": 20802, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299950266.428776, "message": "Cool.  Well for me its a draw between Wing and PyCharm... just have to try them.  Emacs is a non-starter for me :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 333879}, {"user_id": 20795, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299950328.9204111, "user_id": 20802}], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299950293.0833199, "message": "Visual Studio on Linux is sweet ;)", "group_id": 373, "id": 333883}, {"user_id": 20802, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299950171.8804779, "message": "So if I develop on Windows and Linux do I have to buy two licenses for these products?", "group_id": 373, "id": 333854}, {"user_id": 20795, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299950188.2362511, "message": "No", "group_id": 373, "id": 333858}, {"user_id": 20795, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299950232.07781, "message": "As of Wing 4 license scheme changed. I believe it's no longer that way.", "group_id": 373, "id": 333871}, {"user_id": 5591, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299950525.4979999, "message": "PyCharm is free for educators/schools which was obviously a big plus for me. Wing just offers a discounted license. Unfortunately, PyCharm isn't the best editor for 8 year old systems with 256 megs of RAM. That probably holds true for Komodo and Wing as well.", "group_id": 373, "id": 333936}, {"user_id": 14595, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299950556.946794, "user_id": 20802}], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299950543.3439641, "message": "A most excellent and manly IDE smackdown", "group_id": 373, "id": 333941}, {"user_id": 19880, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299954163.357657, "user_id": 927}], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299950890.207433, "message": "Biggest complaint I have about PyCharm is that when starting w/ a new virtualenv or something like that, it will take over your system parsing the stuff initially.  My lappy hates that.", "group_id": 373, "id": 333996}, {"user_id": 1243, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299954144.909277, "message": "@JoeTennies That's probably it's IDEA roots. It's initial indexing of my Java projects is\u2026 resource-intensive.", "group_id": 373, "id": 334291}, {"user_id": 5942, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299985497.541857, "message": "@JoeTennies I have tried WingIDE 4, the new feature Matplotlib support, and refactoring is impressive.", "group_id": 373, "id": 338358}, {"user_id": 11696, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299985606.148633, "message": "Scribes is not an IDE, but is a very neat editor for Linux :) http://scribes.sourceforge.net/", "group_id": 373, "id": 338367}, {"user_id": 5942, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1299985404.881, "message": "@jrt369 I don't think WingIDE works well on a 256M RAM old pc. WingIDE is free for open source develop. and it lools Pycharm need more computer performance than WingIDE", "group_id": 373, "id": 338342}, {"user_id": 16551, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300225221.4278171, "user_id": 20802}], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1300224444.0288489, "message": "WingIDE has similar thing for Open Source developers. http://wingware.com/store/free", "group_id": 373, "id": 360259}, {"user_id": 16551, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300224460.575918, "user_id": 8391}], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1300224374.3098321, "message": "This is of course for PyCharm.", "group_id": 373, "id": 360255}, {"user_id": 20802, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1300223892.358885, "message": "Addendum: hmmm, I joked earlier in the thread about PyCharm discount, but found there's a card in the swag bag with a code for a 50% off PyCon '11 special for Wingware Pro through 3/28.   :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 360230}, {"user_id": 16551, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300225219.8319759, "user_id": 20802}, {"date_created": 1300823614.344594, "user_id": 23707}], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1300224300.6828671, "message": "If you can show yourself as part of active Open Source project with community of contributors, they have a deal where can get free licence. http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/buy/buy.jsp#opensource_", "group_id": 373, "id": 360249}, {"user_id": 16551, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300823676.2335501, "user_id": 23707}], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1300224322.845161, "message": "Not sure if mod_wsgi fails the condition 'you have a dedicated website and an active developer community supporting your project'. Does a one man project qualify. ;-)", "group_id": 373, "id": 360252}, {"user_id": 21257, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1300240831.607079, "message": "I was wavering on PyCharm, but 1.2 was just released with academic pricing ($30 if you are a student!) http://blogs.jetbrains.com/pycharm/2011/03/pycharm-1-2-released-with-a-new-academic-license-type/", "group_id": 373, "id": 361981}, {"user_id": 20582, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1300693788.7934971, "message": "@ericasberry re PyCharm discount... do you mind sharing it (i think it's the same for all, ie not unique)?... :) I got the bag at PyCon too, and since I was planning to get PyCharm anyway I thought it's a really nice thing... but misplaced the card somewhere, what's left now is the PyCharm cheatsheet... :(", "group_id": 373, "id": 396567}, {"user_id": 20802, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1300710982.365365, "message": "@rytis I had joked about a PyCharm discount; but the Pycon discount I found in the bag is for wingware professional.  The code is pyc2011", "group_id": 373, "id": 397389}, {"user_id": 20582, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1300728611.0502801, "message": "@ericasberry ah ok :) well that'd be why i couldn't find it then! i still have wingware code though, but thanks! :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 400417}, {"user_id": 3354, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1300835279.8345909, "message": "PyCharm was heavily discounted for Beta users, I seem to remember (though I didn't go for it)", "group_id": 373, "id": 412673}, {"user_id": 18539, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1300840580.899178, "message": "I can't get WING IDE's menu to work with Ubuntu Natty's unified menu thing.", "group_id": 373, "id": 413058}, {"user_id": 3354, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1300851740.039155, "message": "Is that because WingIDE is a PyQt-based app, do you think?", "group_id": 373, "id": 413921}, {"user_id": 5942, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1300872839.7848799, "message": "@holdenweb  WingIDE is a PyGTK-based APP", "group_id": 373, "id": 415636}, {"user_id": 21093, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1300887789.3794129, "message": "I'm a bit unclear about the unified menu's requirements but try running Wing with --system-gtk option to see if it works any better.  We ship with a fairly old GTK, although I'm not certain using the system GTK will help as it may be we need to change our code for the menu stuff to work.", "group_id": 373, "id": 417322}, {"user_id": 18539, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1300906349.911664, "message": "@sdeibel Thanks for your feedback but I'm afraid that din't help", "group_id": 373, "id": 419739}, {"user_id": 21093, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12613, "date_created": 1300982572.488606, "message": "@lvh OK, thanks for letting me know.", "group_id": 373, "id": 428123}]