convore.json/groups/pycon-2011/javascript-for-people-who-know-python-ian-bicking/messages.json

[{"user_id": 2024, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860181.9299891, "message": "@lukeman nothing? ;)", "group_id": 373, "id": 323864}, {"user_id": 208, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860287.889936, "message": "the cough of bicking", "group_id": 373, "id": 323890}, {"user_id": 240, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299859311.1231041, "message": "@ericflo that's why I'm here", "group_id": 373, "id": 323692}, {"user_id": 240, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299859419.743094, "message": "css live coding!", "group_id": 373, "id": 323722}, {"user_id": 17783, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299859561.684551, "user_id": 1}], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299859548.653765, "message": "pip install javascript", "group_id": 373, "id": 323751}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299859692.09953, "user_id": 1060}], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299859292.648196, "message": "@ianbicking's talks are always ones to watch", "group_id": 373, "id": 323687}, {"user_id": 2024, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299859501.1616211, "message": "Javascript is totally not the only way to implement <marquee> and <blink>. You can also just require your users to use Netscape Navigator.", "group_id": 373, "id": 323739}, {"user_id": 2024, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299859577.394079, "message": "It's not working. Is PyPI down?", "group_id": 373, "id": 323760}, {"user_id": 19652, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299859583.5585461, "message": "The room is pack!", "group_id": 373, "id": 323763}, {"user_id": 208, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860211.8609719, "message": "i guess pewter would work as well", "group_id": 373, "id": 323871}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860283.362596, "message": "Python class definition =~ Javascript prototype dictionary attribute", "group_id": 373, "id": 323888}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299861067.8082931, "message": "force your IE users to install http://code.google.com/chrome/chromeframe/", "group_id": 373, "id": 324028}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299861110.085762, "message": "is there a link to the slides?", "group_id": 373, "id": 324037}, {"user_id": 1060, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860709.7837429, "message": "Javascript is a pretty powerful language, more like a Scheme -- the \"good parts\" are good", "group_id": 373, "id": 323966}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860354.153276, "message": "He just blew my mind with the factory function vs. class clarification", "group_id": 373, "id": 323900}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860105.9948239, "message": "i wouldn't have used such different background colors as anything on black is hard to read on a projection.  but great to see side by side.", "group_id": 373, "id": 323850}, {"user_id": 2024, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860234.736078, "message": "I suppose if you stored them on some really old HD platters you could make them weight quite a lot.", "group_id": 373, "id": 323874}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860357.5701571, "message": "whats the useful difference between using a prototype and returning a dictionary from a factory?", "group_id": 373, "id": 323902}, {"user_id": 1749, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860607.340286, "message": "would love to see more running code.  I have a tough time reading and understanding this code.", "group_id": 373, "id": 323948}, {"user_id": 1175, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299859712.051734, "user_id": 11639}], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299859465.3198071, "message": "Holy crap it's cold in here", "group_id": 373, "id": 323733}, {"user_id": 1169, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299859608.649617, "message": "(javascript installs javascript)", "group_id": 373, "id": 323767}, {"user_id": 1749, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299859628.2440741, "user_id": 1}], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299859612.913898, "message": "Really?  Cat calls?", "group_id": 373, "id": 323769}, {"user_id": 1169, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299859642.746444, "message": "@titus don't curb our enthusiasm.", "group_id": 373, "id": 323771}, {"user_id": 177, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860997.256933, "message": "All I know is that JSLint yelled at me for using that.", "group_id": 373, "id": 324017}, {"user_id": 1243, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299861091.1493051, "message": "underscore.js gives you nice stuff for working with lists, without corrupting the Array prototype.", "group_id": 373, "id": 324034}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860146.7512829, "message": "The whole new operator in JavaScript confuses me a bit, TBH.", "group_id": 373, "id": 323857}, {"user_id": 1169, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299859599.6751699, "message": "did Ian write jij yet?", "group_id": 373, "id": 323765}, {"user_id": 208, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299860172.8928211, "user_id": 177}, {"date_created": 1299860199.4171181, "user_id": 1169}, {"date_created": 1299860260.2085011, "user_id": 18972}], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860162.8253069, "message": "these slides will be worth their weight in gold", "group_id": 373, "id": 323862}, {"user_id": 1749, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299860594.4889929, "user_id": 208}], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860574.5987451, "message": "insanity.", "group_id": 373, "id": 323942}, {"user_id": 1243, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299860596.405865, "user_id": 1060}], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860586.9019599, "message": "According to Brendan, prototypal is faster in current browser implementations.", "group_id": 373, "id": 323945}, {"user_id": 1169, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299860646.625675, "user_id": 19655}], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860622.95734, "message": "I love that pattern.", "group_id": 373, "id": 323950}, {"user_id": 20626, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860664.357517, "message": "it's a python3 feature", "group_id": 373, "id": 323955}, {"user_id": 1916, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299860674.548384, "user_id": 2024}], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860666.2316141, "message": "JavaScript just doesn't seem well thought out at all.", "group_id": 373, "id": 323956}, {"user_id": 208, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299860713.0445449, "user_id": 177}, {"date_created": 1299860713.940083, "user_id": 1243}, {"date_created": 1299860717.9840901, "user_id": 1916}], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860702.9201701, "message": "this makes me want to learn coffeescript", "group_id": 373, "id": 323962}, {"user_id": 1060, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860850.826823, "message": "Coffeescript adds hasOwnProperty to iterators for that reason", "group_id": 373, "id": 323988}, {"user_id": 1243, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860962.1828499, "message": "=== prevents coercion", "group_id": 373, "id": 324008}, {"user_id": 1243, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860965.937608, "message": "== allows it", "group_id": 373, "id": 324009}, {"user_id": 18601, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860973.719064, "message": "@gthank yes prototype do this too", "group_id": 373, "id": 324010}, {"user_id": 1916, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860981.8713319, "message": "'to make this kind of work\" == javascript", "group_id": 373, "id": 324015}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299859764.0858541, "message": "I like the side-by-side Python <-> JavaScript comparisons", "group_id": 373, "id": 323782}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860934.78548, "message": "=== acts like is?", "group_id": 373, "id": 324001}, {"user_id": 1243, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299861260.0083189, "message": "https://github.com/jashkenas must be blushing right now", "group_id": 373, "id": 324066}, {"user_id": 1169, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299859821.4945359, "message": "I like the highlightability of code in the browser.", "group_id": 373, "id": 323794}, {"user_id": 2024, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860474.415823, "message": "@paulsmith ah, that could be", "group_id": 373, "id": 323923}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860475.629647, "message": "s/type/time/ yes possibly", "group_id": 373, "id": 323924}, {"user_id": 1243, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860519.9685071, "message": "See the transcript from the \"Closure versus Prototypal Pattern Deathmatch\" episode of Brendan Eich's \"A Minute With Brendan\": http://piratepad.net/amwb-20110216", "group_id": 373, "id": 323931}, {"user_id": 1243, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299860737.4069121, "user_id": 17783}], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860709.228446, "message": "Stupid closures messing up `this` is one of the biggest gotchas I run into with JS.", "group_id": 373, "id": 323965}, {"user_id": 1060, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860742.2992289, "message": "Coffeescript has a really nice feature the => operator to bind functions to \"this\"", "group_id": 373, "id": 323970}, {"user_id": 208, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299860931.2639649, "user_id": 2024}, {"date_created": 1299860931.6200099, "user_id": 18601}, {"date_created": 1299860940.228384, "user_id": 177}, {"date_created": 1299860946.1874881, "user_id": 9663}, {"date_created": 1299860948.4670489, "user_id": 1}], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860919.66519, "message": "i was following this pretty well for the first NaN minutes or so", "group_id": 373, "id": 323997}, {"user_id": 19652, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299861313.366039, "message": "Will have to try coffeescript everyone has giving good reviews of it", "group_id": 373, "id": 324084}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860369.644062, "message": "performance diff?", "group_id": 373, "id": 323904}, {"user_id": 1749, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860370.8084121, "message": "@gpshead yes, I wonder that too", "group_id": 373, "id": 323905}, {"user_id": 2024, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860399.2863381, "message": "I don't think there is one, except perhaps in some weird edge cases; just two ways of doing the same thing", "group_id": 373, "id": 323910}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860434.8383141, "message": "well the language was created in a month-ish ;)", "group_id": 373, "id": 323914}, {"user_id": 1060, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860406.153764, "message": "I think this is one of the biggest weaknesses of the Javascript community, that prototypes are used sometimes and others use \"factory\" style for as far as I can tell aesthetic reasons", "group_id": 373, "id": 323911}, {"user_id": 18601, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299860455.087671, "user_id": 18972}, {"date_created": 1299860458.4636331, "user_id": 2024}, {"date_created": 1299860461.5722721, "user_id": 1175}, {"date_created": 1299860532.8611779, "user_id": 2051}], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860450.3952701, "message": "this is insane", "group_id": 373, "id": 323917}, {"user_id": 1916, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860571.4915481, "message": "@joshourisman I feel the exact same way.", "group_id": 373, "id": 323941}, {"user_id": 2024, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299860787.41085, "user_id": 208}, {"date_created": 1299860795.5484281, "user_id": 18601}], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860757.171474, "message": "@paulsmith I fell like the only \"good\" part of Javascript is that all browsers have an interpreter.", "group_id": 373, "id": 323975}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860997.3502541, "message": "yay answered on next slide", "group_id": 373, "id": 324018}, {"user_id": 18601, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299861060.175456, "message": "@mpirnat i think IE just screws you over, period", "group_id": 373, "id": 324027}, {"user_id": 19788, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299861069.297775, "message": "Well, yeah. :-)", "group_id": 373, "id": 324029}, {"user_id": 20626, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299861161.477216, "message": "language itself itself", "group_id": 373, "id": 324041}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299861203.891923, "message": "priceless info", "group_id": 373, "id": 324050}, {"user_id": 20626, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299861220.3012159, "message": "i missed it", "group_id": 373, "id": 324054}, {"user_id": 1169, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299861222.5583079, "message": "@mpirnat you picked wrong :-)", "group_id": 373, "id": 324055}, {"user_id": 208, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299861238.5726581, "message": "boom", "group_id": 373, "id": 324057}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299861273.392452, "message": "http://jashkenas.github.com/coffee-script/", "group_id": 373, "id": 324073}, {"user_id": 3, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299861343.65748, "user_id": 1060}], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299861283.6085279, "message": "coffeescript is the only way to fly", "group_id": 373, "id": 324076}, {"user_id": 1169, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299861412.6401801, "message": "@gpshead here, here!", "group_id": 373, "id": 324103}, {"user_id": 1060, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860450.598912, "message": "I think there *is* a performance difference with factory style, because of the allocation of the \"self\" or whatever object each type", "group_id": 373, "id": 323918}, {"user_id": 1060, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860522.9602709, "message": "s/type/time", "group_id": 373, "id": 323933}, {"user_id": 2051, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860698.995667, "message": "ian is not shy about using exclamation points!", "group_id": 373, "id": 323961}, {"user_id": 2024, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860952.82236, "message": "@gpshead I think === is a type comparison.", "group_id": 373, "id": 324005}, {"user_id": 1175, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299861110.196677, "message": "there you go", "group_id": 373, "id": 324038}, {"user_id": 20626, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860747.478595, "message": "more on nonlocal: \"If the name does not occur in a global or nonlocal statement in the current code block: the name is bound to the object in the current local namespace.\"", "group_id": 373, "id": 323972}, {"user_id": 20626, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860950.2185371, "message": "this does not make me want to start web programming, i was hoping it would. i'll stay on the backend", "group_id": 373, "id": 324004}, {"user_id": 2024, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299860577.666522, "user_id": 1}, {"date_created": 1299860592.660733, "user_id": 208}, {"date_created": 1299860612.1444521, "user_id": 1916}], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860546.879247, "message": "this is really awesome and useful, but really not making me want to spend more time with javascript.", "group_id": 373, "id": 323938}, {"user_id": 18601, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299860657.0154209, "user_id": 1243}], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860651.477592, "message": "nonlocal? somethings in python i'm glad i don't know about", "group_id": 373, "id": 323954}, {"user_id": 1243, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860937.6812029, "message": "Wasn't it prototype.js that augmented the global object and array prototypes?", "group_id": 373, "id": 324003}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860979.621731, "message": "oh its one of _those_ languages...", "group_id": 373, "id": 324012}, {"user_id": 18601, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860981.3583059, "message": "* does", "group_id": 373, "id": 324014}, {"user_id": 20626, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860622.1225619, "message": "that's a lot of function() calls.", "group_id": 373, "id": 323949}, {"user_id": 18601, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860844.880563, "message": "massacre your namespace ftw", "group_id": 373, "id": 323986}, {"user_id": 1060, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860936.0917599, "message": "Coffeescript is a \"good parts\" language, pretty clever", "group_id": 373, "id": 324002}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299861403.956039, "user_id": 1169}], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299861380.2724941, "message": "screw the VM panel, lets keep the room for Javascript and Ian :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 324101}, {"user_id": 2024, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860686.02894, "message": "@gsiegman you've got an extraneous 'well' in that sentence.", "group_id": 373, "id": 323960}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860887.8460889, "message": "@paulsmith Really? Whoa, that's smart.", "group_id": 373, "id": 323991}, {"user_id": 19788, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299861178.7064199, "message": "Can't wait for the video on this one--tough choice between this and where I am now.", "group_id": 373, "id": 324047}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299861039.109323, "message": "IE can screw you over hardcore.  nuf said.", "group_id": 373, "id": 324022}, {"user_id": 2024, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299860978.127316, "message": "@gthank ah, thanks.", "group_id": 373, "id": 324011}, {"user_id": 19788, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299861001.2835331, "message": "And messing up == vs === can screw you over in IE, hardcore.", "group_id": 373, "id": 324019}, {"user_id": 1175, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299861073.0180969, "message": "@gsiegman there's a good history lesson on JS in http://www.codersatwork.com/brendan-eich.html iirc, it's basically a story of changing requirements", "group_id": 373, "id": 324030}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299861266.8747029, "message": "big shoutout to coffeescript", "group_id": 373, "id": 324070}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299861338.1349721, "message": "interactive interpreters for javascript: FireBug in mozilla firefox, and the web developer console in Chrome.  also interactive console thing with node (?)", "group_id": 373, "id": 324092}, {"user_id": 3, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299861516.393594, "message": "(blatant self promotion)", "group_id": 373, "id": 324119}, {"user_id": 3, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299861513.53268, "message": "if anyone uses emacs: https://github.com/defunkt/coffee-mode", "group_id": 373, "id": 324118}, {"user_id": 3, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299861542.602514, "user_id": 1}, {"date_created": 1299861600.287324, "user_id": 177}], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299861533.557816, "message": "http://img.skitch.com/20100308-cre5adxgq9x35icju1kqtggg9e.png", "group_id": 373, "id": 324125}, {"user_id": 3, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299861530.6108971, "message": "it's fun to see coffee and js side by side", "group_id": 373, "id": 324123}, {"user_id": 20649, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299864302.3638959, "message": "What's the best JavaScript framework? (eg _js, jQuery)", "group_id": 373, "id": 324929}, {"user_id": 20660, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1299865142.0892611, "message": "One more difference between Python and JavaScript: variable hoisting: http://dmitrysoshnikov.com/notes/note-4-two-words-about-hoisting/", "group_id": 373, "id": 325066}, {"user_id": 33377, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12345, "date_created": 1305736470.7316411, "message": "TEST", "group_id": 373, "id": 1100000}]