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[{"user_id": 19747, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1299961025.8541369, "message": "local python user group: http://baypiggies.net/", "group_id": 373, "id": 335908}, {"user_id": 4120, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1299961551.93099, "message": "I heard Santa Clara at lunch.", "group_id": 373, "id": 335976}, {"user_id": 19784, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1299960857.019089, "message": "Santa Clara?", "group_id": 373, "id": 335890}, {"user_id": 19747, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1299961888.0557759, "message": "@brianball Yes. Santa Clara. http://www.ubuntu-user.com/Online/News/PyCon-Personality-Steve-Holden-Python-Software-Foundation-Chairman", "group_id": 373, "id": 336028}, {"user_id": 20984, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1299961352.74914, "message": "shoot an email there too http://www.bayareagirlgeekdinners.com/", "group_id": 373, "id": 335951}, {"user_id": 3354, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300078443.73892, "message": "2012/3 Santa Clara, 2014/5 Montreal. After that, who knows? Four years out is far enough even for me!", "group_id": 373, "id": 345008}, {"user_id": 1979, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300078976.844089, "message": "considering Montreal is going to be after Santa Clara :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 345043}, {"user_id": 1979, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300080685.2466381, "message": "It's not a really big conference or anything -- 350 people last year at Girona, 300 or so people prior to that in Amsterdam. And this year it's in Denver, which means that people that helped organising in prior years either have to travel major distances (as most of them are from Europe) or just dropping from organisers team.", "group_id": 373, "id": 345130}, {"user_id": 1979, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300082403.420387, "user_id": 1930}, {"date_created": 1300112955.012831, "user_id": 14463}, {"date_created": 1300195333.0606301, "user_id": 1760}], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300078950.221473, "message": "maybe there's a need to drop \"US\" part from PyCon?", "group_id": 373, "id": 345042}, {"user_id": 1979, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300080229.376651, "user_id": 10411}, {"date_created": 1300159615.964587, "user_id": 18843}], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300080174.465569, "message": "whoa, did i just generate an idea worth discussing? i should drink more, i guess", "group_id": 373, "id": 345100}, {"user_id": 3354, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300080175.968874, "user_id": 1979}, {"date_created": 1300174059.1018641, "user_id": 20582}], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300080060.159878, "message": "That's something to think about. We only just started to tag this one \"PyCon US\", and it's possible that as the international Python community grows then the \"International PyCon\" would be hosted in different countries, much as EuroPython is now. The hosting country would probably not have a national PyCon that year, or might have a smaller one. Please note that this is all speculation at present, not anything that has been more than idly discussed at PSF board level.", "group_id": 373, "id": 345090}, {"user_id": 3354, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300080250.271543, "message": "Not necessary. And we *have* discussed it already, but I don't think we are really ready to promote something like that yet.", "group_id": 373, "id": 345105}, {"user_id": 1979, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300080434.8437791, "message": "I think it would make sense, but considering that most people in the PyCon org. committee are from US, having International PyCon that travels from place to place would make organisation process quite expensive and hard to coordinate.", "group_id": 373, "id": 345119}, {"user_id": 1979, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300080497.355006, "message": "I can see that happening with smaller conferences, such as State of the Map -- which doesn't have \"country of residence\" and where org. committee changes every year.", "group_id": 373, "id": 345122}, {"user_id": 1930, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300108999.291127, "user_id": 3926}], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300082511.6338, "message": "...well,  EuroPython is \"regional\";   Python N.A. (north america, or perhaps americas)  might be more analogous.", "group_id": 373, "id": 345239}, {"user_id": 19652, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300088087.6092651, "message": "And of course I forgot a 1 above", "group_id": 373, "id": 345531}, {"user_id": 19652, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300088055.4890521, "message": "@yarkot 2006-7 in brazil will be awesome", "group_id": 373, "id": 345530}, {"user_id": 3926, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300109063.5114541, "message": "@yarkot That's what we've done in our company conferences:  the \"US conference\" simply became the \"North American Conference\".", "group_id": 373, "id": 347177}, {"user_id": 6165, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300145851.9976311, "user_id": 1930}, {"date_created": 1300159822.5502701, "user_id": 18843}], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300118719.3902869, "message": "Wow, will need a few extra days to tour the campuses of Apple, Google and Stanford U.", "group_id": 373, "id": 348694}, {"user_id": 19747, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300135889.3237741, "message": "I don't know the hotel arrangement yet", "group_id": 373, "id": 350964}, {"user_id": 19747, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300135685.1511841, "message": "Necessary URLs:", "group_id": 373, "id": 350918}, {"user_id": 19747, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300135708.3956671, "message": "Santa Clara Convention Center http://www.santaclara.org/conventioncenter/", "group_id": 373, "id": 350923}, {"user_id": 19747, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300151268.3085029, "user_id": 1979}], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300136939.0998981, "message": "Light rail service is available from Mineta San Jose International Airport to the Santa Clara Convention Center. Take the Airport Flyer Bus #10 (Free Shuttle) marked \"Metro Station\" to 1st & Metro stop. Board Light Rail marked \"Mt. View\" North. It will turn left on Tasman Drive. Get off at Great America. Walk to Convention Center. http://is.gd/xalEZr", "group_id": 373, "id": 351178}, {"user_id": 19747, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300135859.907692, "message": "San Jose International Airport http://www.flysanjose.com/", "group_id": 373, "id": 350959}, {"user_id": 19747, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300135821.7972591, "message": "Santa Clara Valley Transportation Authority http://www.vta.org/", "group_id": 373, "id": 350949}, {"user_id": 19747, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300138635.8327501, "message": "@GrahamDumpleton Good one. SFO to South Bay Area: http://flysfo.com/web/page/tofrom/transp-serv/to-sb/", "group_id": 373, "id": 351315}, {"user_id": 16551, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300137812.4177661, "message": "Guidance for how to get there for those who would be flying into SFO and who can't fly direct into San Jose direct. Best means of transport, cost etc for that leg.", "group_id": 373, "id": 351264}, {"user_id": 19747, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300140183.808666, "message": "The public transit from SFO to Santa Clara may involve 1 or 2 BART trains (depends on arrival time), Caltrain, and the VTA Light Rail for about a 1.5-2.0 hour trip one way and cost $8.50 - $16.55. http://511.org Airport shuttles are much more convenient (about 30 minutes travel time) and cost about $29 for one person or $79 for up to 9 people. http://flysfo.com/web/page/tofrom/transp-serv/dtd/", "group_id": 373, "id": 351433}, {"user_id": 19747, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300140295.718646, "message": "Best online transit planner for San Francisco Bay Area: http://511.org Also includes referrals to mobile apps.", "group_id": 373, "id": 351446}, {"user_id": 19747, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300146335.15044, "message": "@yarkot http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pycon-organizers", "group_id": 373, "id": 352074}, {"user_id": 21307, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300146550.612216, "message": "Would love to support pycon 2012. Let us know what you want to see in the conventionist topic! :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 352111}, {"user_id": 1930, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300145941.26964, "message": "That's prepping yourself!   Don't forget - if you want to help prep _the conference_, join the PyCon Organizer's list.", "group_id": 373, "id": 352002}, {"user_id": 19747, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300147472.4949, "message": "@brianball Indeed! The best extra-curricular events I've attended at conferences were boat cruises on the lake in Chicago and through the canals of Amsterdam, where food and beverage were a-plenty. There's also the usual touristy stuff: Great America, Monterey Bay Aquarium, Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk, Zeum (science museum in San Jose). Now imagine one of these events sponsored.", "group_id": 373, "id": 352169}, {"user_id": 4120, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300146668.3460071, "message": "With enough organization, we could do some cool stuff. E.g. Let's create a VIP package for an extra $100 (if we get 500 people to opt in, we have 50,000 to create a vip experience, give vip gifts.. (help me think this through))", "group_id": 373, "id": 352125}, {"user_id": 20984, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300152868.237823, "message": "@brianball http://www.facebook.com/SiliconValley365", "group_id": 373, "id": 352736}, {"user_id": 4120, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300152956.0592041, "message": "I think a pre-conference ice-breaker event could be cool", "group_id": 373, "id": 352740}, {"user_id": 20984, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300152932.2690549, "message": "http://siliconvalley365.com/ <--- same thing", "group_id": 373, "id": 352739}, {"user_id": 4120, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300153122.9675839, "message": "I've been to some pretty cool BarCamp events. It'd be cool to have PyCamp - before or after the event -- something family friendly would be sweet. I saw a few father-son teams here this year.", "group_id": 373, "id": 352743}, {"user_id": 1930, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300168362.863956, "message": "@steve_piercy   we had that this year.   At 5:00PM prompt on Thursday, we called for SWAG volunteers, and had a big party stuffing bags, followed by \"hors d'oeuvres\" of pizza, M&M's, and soda...", "group_id": 373, "id": 353642}, {"user_id": 19747, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300167403.0891089, "message": "+1 for a stand-up reception w/hors d'\u0153uvres and beverages the night before the start of the sessions.", "group_id": 373, "id": 353598}, {"user_id": 1930, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300168385.8755169, "message": ";-)", "group_id": 373, "id": 353644}, {"user_id": 19747, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300170630.2523, "message": "@yarkot Somehow I missed the call on lots of volunteering opportunities. Rookie year mistake. Ah, well, I'm on the pycon-organizers list, now that I know about it.", "group_id": 373, "id": 353689}, {"user_id": 1152, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300257541.9963181, "user_id": 8391}], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300210203.042942, "message": "PyCon 2012 Santa Clara dates: 3/07/2012 - 3/15/2012", "group_id": 373, "id": 358841}, {"user_id": 20992, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300241231.4572279, "message": "Think about timing of Montreal... it is the single. coldest. place. in. the. universe in Feb/March.", "group_id": 373, "id": 362004}, {"user_id": 1736, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300253967.5664561, "message": "A placeholder page is up at http://us.pycon.org/2012/", "group_id": 373, "id": 363050}, {"user_id": 4120, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300260386.907964, "message": "@js27546 - perfect for lots of indoor activity", "group_id": 373, "id": 363527}, {"user_id": 21858, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300275884.701647, "message": "Is that opposite SXSW 2012?!   Not again!", "group_id": 373, "id": 364437}, {"user_id": 1152, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300283783.543983, "message": "@robinf1 I don't know if it is, and don't care.", "group_id": 373, "id": 365894}, {"user_id": 4120, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300297555.2201769, "message": "Note to self: whiteboards in the sprints would help sort out ideas", "group_id": 373, "id": 367933}, {"user_id": 1736, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300306143.847187, "message": "@brianball We have whiteboards", "group_id": 373, "id": 369195}, {"user_id": 1736, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300306156.3497, "message": "@brianball Though we have been collecting them to pack up now", "group_id": 373, "id": 369198}, {"user_id": 14957, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300584649.2103031, "message": "@brianball we had white boards.", "group_id": 373, "id": 390123}, {"user_id": 21826, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300590561.852309, "user_id": 1}], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300590163.1002591, "message": "I'm going to break down and get a hotel room anyway -- I wanna drink with y'alls :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 390325}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300591182.5347879, "message": "It's actually funny that the SCCC is sufficiently hard to get to for an East Bay resident that I might end up hotel-ing it anyways, or crashing somewhere some nights. Otherwise I'm looking at renting a car or zipcar for a week or traveling for 90+ minutes across 3 transit operators. Bleh.", "group_id": 373, "id": 390357}, {"user_id": 12683, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300595929.293819, "message": "Yeah, I just looked at weather.com for Montreal.... I vote we change that... My Florida blood can't handle 30 degree weather", "group_id": 373, "id": 390534}, {"user_id": 19747, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300600685.1122539, "message": "@bitprophet From what city in the East Bay? Did you try http://511.org and its trip planners? There is an ACE and Capitol Corridor train that goes within a few blocks of the SCCC. Agreed that public transit to the SCCC is suboptimal for commuters crossing county lines.", "group_id": 373, "id": 390663}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300640920.035785, "message": "@steve_piercy Lafayette. Thanks for the reminder about 511, though; I obviously still don't have the entire Bay Area transit story mapped out yet as I'd forgotten about southbound Amtrak and didn't know ACE had a train (thought it was a bus system that only served the northern parts of the area)", "group_id": 373, "id": 392745}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300640956.3190031, "message": "Still seems like I'll be dealing with at least 2-3 transfers regardless, though. meh. Will keep poking :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 392748}, {"user_id": 19747, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300654189.5771439, "message": "From Lafayette, BART to Oakland and possibly switch BART trains to head south toward Fremont. You could either transfer at 19th Avenue to the Capitol Corridor train or continue to Fremont and catch an express VTA bus. Either option gets you to within a few blocks of SCCC. However the CC trains are not frequent, and timing may be a concern. I was able to find trips that took about ~2 hours one way for under $10. (The landscape of python web frameworks reminds me of the SF Bay Area public transit system: lots of duplication of effort, not much collaboration, and ultimately confusing to new users. :) )", "group_id": 373, "id": 393767}, {"user_id": 3354, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300963631.8964, "user_id": 1760}], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300720499.272203, "message": "I really don't want to think about someone spending 4 hours a day traveling to and from a conference.", "group_id": 373, "id": 398858}, {"user_id": 1924, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300724706.574913, "message": "@brianball re. BarCamp/PyCamp: This is what the Open Spaces are for.  What would be different for the PyCamp than available at PyCon Open Spaces?   What activities events do you want to promote?   (I also understand that the \"camp/s\" term has been diluted in many modern events (MS sponsored code camps) from their open space roots.)  Feel free to ping me off list goodmansond-gmail", "group_id": 373, "id": 399646}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300729656.5047181, "message": "@steve_piercy so is the Clipper Card (just got one today, woo) WSGI?", "group_id": 373, "id": 400604}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300729710.7292731, "message": "@holdenweb It's not exactly appealing to me either. Guess I'll see whether my (local to SF) employer will still spring for hotel fare next year despite the relative proximity...", "group_id": 373, "id": 400611}, {"user_id": 19747, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300733747.5974181, "message": "@bitprophet heh, you got it. It excludes Amtrak, though. @holdenweb 4 hours is not an uncommon round-trip commute in the SF Bay Area even when driving. For the organizers, I'll suggest a link to http://rideshare.511.org/ and let individuals work it out.", "group_id": 373, "id": 401399}, {"user_id": 3354, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300835021.4922781, "message": "@bitprophet If you could stand to room share that would reduce your cost.  @steve_piercy I can't help it if the Bay Area is infected by collective insanity. That's almost an eighth of every week!", "group_id": 373, "id": 412657}, {"user_id": 19747, "stars": [{"date_created": 1301070310.634336, "user_id": 10411}], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1300868701.901876, "message": "@holdenweb The distance from the bedroom to the home office is about as far as I care to commute these days. I haven't owned a car since 1998, and always selected jobs and homes within a short commute by foot, bicycle or public transit. It saves me about $10K/year, not to mention the hundreds of hours that can be used for more pleasurable things. Back to the topic, getting a hotel room is an option, and some folks may still want to leave their vehicle at home. In that case a long commute by pubic transit or carpool/rideshare at the start and end of PyCon may be a viable option.", "group_id": 373, "id": 415417}, {"user_id": 20483, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1301035370.3271811, "message": "@holdenweb 4 hours is a fairly extreem commute time. I travel between San Jose and Oakland on a regular basis and it usually takes 50 minutes driving. On the other hand, public transit here is pretty snarfed unless you live / work directly on one of the rail line routes and mostly just head to San Francisco for work.", "group_id": 373, "id": 436328}, {"user_id": 3354, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12668, "date_created": 1301117259.6057451, "message": "Ah, Portland! Small is beautiful.", "group_id": 373, "id": 444947}]