convore.json/groups/pycon-2011/packaging-from-distutils-to-distutils2/messages.json

[{"user_id": 19652, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299966893.6999829, "message": "First :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 336770}, {"user_id": 18843, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299966974.813489, "user_id": 19652}], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299966893.406894, "message": "Packaging Pig!", "group_id": 373, "id": 336769}, {"user_id": 14874, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967765.0177751, "message": "It starts with you \u2026 :-)", "group_id": 373, "id": 336929}, {"user_id": 20636, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299966992.9351439, "message": "So distutils isn't vegetarian?", "group_id": 373, "id": 336786}, {"user_id": 233, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967165.390748, "message": "We're in Atlanta after all", "group_id": 373, "id": 336815}, {"user_id": 20984, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967247.416997, "message": "now nobody's gonna eat it", "group_id": 373, "id": 336834}, {"user_id": 18843, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299966996.4850521, "message": "Packaging...Python?", "group_id": 373, "id": 336787}, {"user_id": 20624, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967324.109653, "message": "\"I see you've played knifey-spoony before\"", "group_id": 373, "id": 336856}, {"user_id": 20984, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967240.33022, "message": "packaging pony", "group_id": 373, "id": 336831}, {"user_id": 233, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967148.9659979, "message": "Packaging Peach", "group_id": 373, "id": 336812}, {"user_id": 213, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967569.30814, "message": "@schmichael launchpad.net", "group_id": 373, "id": 336896}, {"user_id": 233, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967741.379307, "message": "@jezdez You're my hero", "group_id": 373, "id": 336922}, {"user_id": 18843, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967172.001843, "message": "Packaging Perch", "group_id": 373, "id": 336816}, {"user_id": 7372, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967382.1608739, "message": "so I don't get rid of setup.py yet", "group_id": 373, "id": 336863}, {"user_id": 213, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967733.5196531, "message": "@shakefu 1 year", "group_id": 373, "id": 336920}, {"user_id": 233, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299968059.1528339, "user_id": 214}, {"date_created": 1299967948.5735919, "user_id": 213}], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967932.030797, "message": "New version format: N.N[.N]+[{a|b|c|rc}N[.N]+][.postN][.devN]", "group_id": 373, "id": 336968}, {"user_id": 213, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299967205.8102939, "user_id": 19652}, {"date_created": 1299967282.852113, "user_id": 7372}, {"date_created": 1299967390.5686369, "user_id": 20636}, {"date_created": 1299967612.8901889, "user_id": 214}, {"date_created": 1299970581.5692489, "user_id": 11646}], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967172.10395, "message": "In related news, pip 0.8.3 and virtualenv 1.5.2 was just released", "group_id": 373, "id": 336817}, {"user_id": 213, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967558.7439649, "message": "@schmichael Yeah, I don't support Ubuntu", "group_id": 373, "id": 336894}, {"user_id": 14578, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967801.126617, "message": "@zeeg I would like to know why to not host code on Launchpad", "group_id": 373, "id": 336933}, {"user_id": 14578, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967923.6916549, "message": "\"obscure\"?", "group_id": 373, "id": 336966}, {"user_id": 19652, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299966931.823482, "message": "More like crash by saying first but ok", "group_id": 373, "id": 336775}, {"user_id": 20611, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299966969.0525081, "message": "they're tasty too.", "group_id": 373, "id": 336780}, {"user_id": 19652, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967192.581902, "message": "Technically it's a pet. So yea can't really do veggies", "group_id": 373, "id": 336823}, {"user_id": 20984, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967328.2027569, "message": "ce n'est pas un setup.py", "group_id": 373, "id": 336857}, {"user_id": 21036, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967722.3919909, "message": "Does anyone want to help freeze me for however long it takes for distutils2 to be the standard (and for setuptools to go away)?", "group_id": 373, "id": 336918}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967910.551924, "message": "maybe its a BZR thing", "group_id": 373, "id": 336960}, {"user_id": 20611, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299966923.9898341, "message": "@elpargo almost =P", "group_id": 373, "id": 336773}, {"user_id": 20611, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299966969.0459909, "user_id": 18843}], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299966964.725136, "message": "We need a packaging duck next.", "group_id": 373, "id": 336779}, {"user_id": 20611, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967014.667546, "message": "@palendae tastes like chicken?", "group_id": 373, "id": 336793}, {"user_id": 21036, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299967258.313236, "user_id": 18843}], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967248.2843921, "message": "Distributing Donkey?", "group_id": 373, "id": 336835}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967559.704155, "message": "distutils2 looks sexy", "group_id": 373, "id": 336895}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967848.592984, "message": "im still not sure i know how to get to source code on launchpad", "group_id": 373, "id": 336948}, {"user_id": 18843, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299966973.2085209, "message": "Packaging Emu", "group_id": 373, "id": 336781}, {"user_id": 21036, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299966978.08025, "message": "Packaging prosti... wait what?", "group_id": 373, "id": 336783}, {"user_id": 233, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967229.9030781, "message": "@jezdez Does it have basic auth support?", "group_id": 373, "id": 336830}, {"user_id": 233, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967242.0242431, "message": "(http basic auth)", "group_id": 373, "id": 336832}, {"user_id": 21036, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967261.3206639, "message": "*Distribution", "group_id": 373, "id": 336839}, {"user_id": 20611, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967281.9887121, "message": "le setup.py. classic", "group_id": 373, "id": 336846}, {"user_id": 14874, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299967321.3791809, "user_id": 18843}, {"date_created": 1299967328.1075909, "user_id": 1127}, {"date_created": 1299967331.2253361, "user_id": 20783}], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967315.6637881, "message": "C'est ne pas un setup.py", "group_id": 373, "id": 336854}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299967701.6582861, "user_id": 213}, {"date_created": 1299967785.8704679, "user_id": 14578}], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967616.99862, "message": "Who wants to have a BoF about why no one should host code on Launchpad?", "group_id": 373, "id": 336900}, {"user_id": 21036, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967749.5286341, "message": "I'll get my winter jacket...", "group_id": 373, "id": 336923}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967824.8439591, "message": "@dash you make my eyes bleed everytime I have to install one of your packages from source :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 336939}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967936.2244909, "message": "Well, I don't use bzr :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 336970}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967261.8072979, "message": "that is a scary knife", "group_id": 373, "id": 336840}, {"user_id": 21036, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967301.014298, "message": "\"That's not a knife...\"", "group_id": 373, "id": 336850}, {"user_id": 213, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967407.838109, "message": "@schmichael yeah, it has that for quite a while", "group_id": 373, "id": 336867}, {"user_id": 233, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967510.612983, "message": "@jezdez Hm, not the version on our Ubuntu 10.04 servers sadly", "group_id": 373, "id": 336883}, {"user_id": 7372, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967548.786201, "message": "custom virtualenv build ftw", "group_id": 373, "id": 336891}, {"user_id": 12683, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967585.9070549, "message": "@jezdez Here here!  I wish more people would not support ubuntu :D", "group_id": 373, "id": 336897}, {"user_id": 233, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967651.0339019, "message": "@jezdez After I browse through 500 pages on launchpad.net I can find the answer", "group_id": 373, "id": 336903}, {"user_id": 233, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967655.277776, "message": "Sadly each pages takes 90s to load", "group_id": 373, "id": 336904}, {"user_id": 14578, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967806.094291, "message": "(since I host all my code on Launchpad)", "group_id": 373, "id": 336936}, {"user_id": 233, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967526.9459929, "message": "Suppose we should stop being lazy and manually install a recent version", "group_id": 373, "id": 336885}, {"user_id": 213, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967608.9419019, "message": "@schmichael Kidding of course, not sure what version they have at the moment", "group_id": 373, "id": 336899}, {"user_id": 233, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967663.515738, "message": "So I'll get back to you next month", "group_id": 373, "id": 336907}, {"user_id": 12683, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967665.362715, "message": "@zeeg Rants with Cramer II?", "group_id": 373, "id": 336909}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967797.306921, "message": "Is pysetup not part of the current Distutils2 release?", "group_id": 373, "id": 336932}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967673.9348459, "message": ":)", "group_id": 373, "id": 336913}, {"user_id": 213, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967710.0483379, "message": "@schmichael https://github.com/pypa/pip/commit/ee2949a97cae6edb1bf2adc14969bd539f11f364", "group_id": 373, "id": 336916}, {"user_id": 14578, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967837.9503629, "message": "\"eyes bleed\"?", "group_id": 373, "id": 336943}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967840.0059819, "message": "Its ridiculously hard to navigate, view source, download packages, etc", "group_id": 373, "id": 336944}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967855.4884911, "message": "unless they changed it again", "group_id": 373, "id": 336950}, {"user_id": 14578, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967856.9160991, "message": "click \"view branch content\"", "group_id": 373, "id": 336951}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967903.637094, "message": "hrm i do see downloads -- i must have been on projects that didnt have them? -- source is way too obscure though", "group_id": 373, "id": 336959}, {"user_id": 20783, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967925.1869991, "message": "why would it be a bzr thing", "group_id": 373, "id": 336967}, {"user_id": 14874, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967932.3027811, "message": "launcpad.net is very slow, reminds me of running bzr 1.x", "group_id": 373, "id": 336969}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967950.8891089, "message": "so I can make the assumption that if you do, you might understand how to find source code on launchpad", "group_id": 373, "id": 336972}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967829.573879, "message": "(assuming I have actually had to)", "group_id": 373, "id": 336942}, {"user_id": 14578, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967845.790113, "message": "not really", "group_id": 373, "id": 336947}, {"user_id": 14578, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299967865.450352, "message": "downloads are on the front project page too", "group_id": 373, "id": 336954}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299968033.719547, "message": "@dash I would definitely say (slowness aside) that if source code was a giant green button like downloads, I'd be much less likely to complain", "group_id": 373, "id": 336990}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299968050.53636, "message": "Though I'm also bias and will complain if I have to go to anywhere other than GitHub", "group_id": 373, "id": 336993}, {"user_id": 14578, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299968078.3398659, "message": "why would you want to read source code on a webpage, though :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 336998}, {"user_id": 7372, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299968094.9847341, "message": "because I might not want to waste the space to pull it down", "group_id": 373, "id": 337001}, {"user_id": 14578, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299968099.632602, "message": "i agree it's annoying and oughta be fixed", "group_id": 373, "id": 337002}, {"user_id": 7372, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299968100.8183379, "message": "or might want to check between branches and compare", "group_id": 373, "id": 337003}, {"user_id": 14578, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299968105.168961, "message": "but it's not something I often want", "group_id": 373, "id": 337004}, {"user_id": 7372, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299968105.2068801, "message": "loggerhead sucks", "group_id": 373, "id": 337005}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299968108.3030269, "message": "ya mostly because im just looking for some docs/example", "group_id": 373, "id": 337006}, {"user_id": 20783, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299968114.0979431, "message": "bzr get --lightweight lp:projname && emacsclient projname", "group_id": 373, "id": 337007}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299968115.113358, "message": "Let's have vcs catfights somewhere else, it has nothing to do with this talk.", "group_id": 373, "id": 337008}, {"user_id": 7372, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299968119.9513421, "message": "I guess I do a lot, shoot, I use google code search every so often", "group_id": 373, "id": 337009}, {"user_id": 7372, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299968138.7486861, "message": "so distutils2 will make me not need pip any more, am I following this right then?", "group_id": 373, "id": 337012}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299968148.161047, "message": "im still confused about pysetup, where is it hiding :(", "group_id": 373, "id": 337016}, {"user_id": 14578, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299968148.7650471, "message": "why does distutils2 make me nervous", "group_id": 373, "id": 337017}, {"user_id": 14578, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299968166.4230909, "message": "i guess i'm still suspicious of dependency on things like pypi.", "group_id": 373, "id": 337022}, {"user_id": 7372, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299968224.768985, "message": "https://bitbucket.org/tarek/distutils2/src/bbc4437b851b/distutils2/pysetup", "group_id": 373, "id": 337038}, {"user_id": 7018, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299968582.1328051, "message": "called out", "group_id": 373, "id": 337113}, {"user_id": 20611, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299968450.008925, "message": "excellent mix of humor in there", "group_id": 373, "id": 337094}, {"user_id": 7372, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299968165.2932291, "message": "it's in distutils2 right?", "group_id": 373, "id": 337021}, {"user_id": 20783, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299968168.7860849, "message": "It's a binary that's installed like `python` and `pydoc`", "group_id": 373, "id": 337023}, {"user_id": 20783, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299968292.7891941, "message": "@zeeg, it's installed as a script in its setup.py file; either you didn't get a recent enough version (no idea when this was introduced????) or your easy_install is fucked (likely)", "group_id": 373, "id": 337057}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299968183.072274, "message": "@dash ya thats my complaint with setuptools right now (the other stuff is minor to me)", "group_id": 373, "id": 337027}, {"user_id": 14578, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299968195.1912799, "message": "setuptools has so many bigger problems though", "group_id": 373, "id": 337033}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299968196.265636, "message": "@habnabit ya I'm just not seeing it (just easy_install'd Distutils2)", "group_id": 373, "id": 337034}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299968249.9718311, "message": "Good packaging tools let you get stuff from pypi, but make it easy to not depend on it.", "group_id": 373, "id": 337047}, {"user_id": 233, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299968282.0018649, "user_id": 13954}, {"date_created": 1299968362.068773, "user_id": 20611}, {"date_created": 1299968472.543828, "user_id": 7018}], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299968263.43244, "message": "God I love Tarek", "group_id": 373, "id": 337048}, {"user_id": 7372, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299968244.7894881, "message": "browsing code via web :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 337045}, {"user_id": 14874, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299968427.9407899, "user_id": 214}, {"date_created": 1299968437.4705679, "user_id": 1127}, {"date_created": 1299968441.444658, "user_id": 233}, {"date_created": 1299968469.1929979, "user_id": 7018}], "topic_id": 12701, "date_created": 1299968396.098696, "message": "Good talk.", "group_id": 373, "id": 337078}]