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[{"user_id": 5852, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299762993.062784, "message": "Hi folks - please feel free to ask questions here; I'll check in during/before/after the class and answer questions when I can.", "group_id": 373, "id": 313118}, {"user_id": 20267, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299765398.60185, "message": "Vagrant is really cool. Tutorial just paid for itself and Jacob hasn't said anything yet.", "group_id": 373, "id": 313343}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299767293.6433439, "message": "And \"pip install python-cloudservers\" gives you a super-nice commandline UI so you don't have to use their terrible control panel.", "group_id": 373, "id": 313528}, {"user_id": 20267, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299767242.959352, "message": "/warning/warned", "group_id": 373, "id": 313521}, {"user_id": 20265, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299768272.4502001, "message": "nm, syncdb is good after using his other requirements.txt...", "group_id": 373, "id": 313636}, {"user_id": 8984, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299768542.761889, "message": "@mpirnat that's what I do, local clone added to my rev control", "group_id": 373, "id": 313673}, {"user_id": 2852, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299765391.620033, "message": "Think I fund a bug in your fabfile: http://twitter.com/uggedal/status/45802603308785664", "group_id": 373, "id": 313342}, {"user_id": 20267, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299767238.8773069, "message": "Be warning, ubuntu is a 500Mb download...", "group_id": 373, "id": 313520}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299767819.763494, "message": "But I'm not sure how to translate the mercurial hash into a git hash...", "group_id": 373, "id": 313587}, {"user_id": 20267, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299767208.9248309, "message": "Find me during the break if you want help.", "group_id": 373, "id": 313516}, {"user_id": 20276, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299766572.226629, "message": "have anybody get the instruction to get VM for mac for the exercise?", "group_id": 373, "id": 313450}, {"user_id": 19839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299768433.756494, "message": "yeah - pulling the file in the mingus-config directory fixes the issues", "group_id": 373, "id": 313661}, {"user_id": 19839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299769311.0414219, "message": "wow ignore that /\\ big lag spike here", "group_id": 373, "id": 313934}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299769895.4048591, "message": "It fixes some brokenness in mingus' version.", "group_id": 373, "id": 314038}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299770068.839793, "message": "bin/django is wrong, it should just be ./manage.py runserver ...", "group_id": 373, "id": 314083}, {"user_id": 20265, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299770230.9731841, "message": "@abeZaffra what kind of error?", "group_id": 373, "id": 314133}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299767804.386559, "message": "it now lives at https://github.com/jezdez/django-staticfiles", "group_id": 373, "id": 313585}, {"user_id": 19839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299767911.7081871, "message": "going to be funny seeing our presenter fail a bit :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 313597}, {"user_id": 19788, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299767909.491406, "message": "@carljm Seems entirely reasonable.", "group_id": 373, "id": 313596}, {"user_id": 20264, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299768574.6222689, "message": "anyone just get an error with sync?  (myblog)root@domU-12-31-39-0C-C4-64:/home/web/myblog/django-mingus/mingus# python ./manage.py syncdb\nTraceback (most recent call last):\n  File \"./manage.py\", line 7, in <module>\n    from django.core.management import execute_manager\nImportError: No module named django.core.management", "group_id": 373, "id": 313697}, {"user_id": 20264, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299768597.5618269, "message": "thx", "group_id": 373, "id": 313706}, {"user_id": 20289, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299768703.3697929, "user_id": 18843}], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299768635.520407, "message": "\"It's like having your engine light come on and putting a piece of tape over it\"  ;-)", "group_id": 373, "id": 313716}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299767267.6174181, "message": "Alternative is to use Rackspace Cloud, spinning up three machines for the duration of this tutorial is negligible cost...", "group_id": 373, "id": 313525}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299767763.377959, "message": "@jacobian - We've got a nice live illustration of the issues with too many external points of failure. @jezdez has killed the bitbucket repo for django-staticfiles ;-)", "group_id": 373, "id": 313581}, {"user_id": 8984, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299767737.6425569, "message": "I usually add external dependencies to a 3rd party directory in my repo so that I'm not dependent on external sources and forward versioning problems ... seems to work.", "group_id": 373, "id": 313574}, {"user_id": 20265, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299767890.219943, "message": "./manage.py syncdb   ->  ImportError: No module named django_proxy.signals", "group_id": 373, "id": 313594}, {"user_id": 20267, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299767201.144311, "message": "re yupu: Get VirtualBox, see Vagrant docs for upgrading ruby-gems, then follow the Vagrant example to download and install a ubuntu VM", "group_id": 373, "id": 313513}, {"user_id": 20276, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299767638.9430239, "message": "Got it!", "group_id": 373, "id": 313559}, {"user_id": 19788, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299767815.082118, "message": "Surely 3rd party source packages could be cloned or mirrored down to local repos, right?", "group_id": 373, "id": 313586}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299768591.0785339, "message": "@wcannon Your virtualenv isn't activated, or doesn't have Django installed in i.", "group_id": 373, "id": 313703}, {"user_id": 19839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299767745.7054601, "message": "running this pip command: pip install -r stable-requirements.txt\ngives this error: abort: 'http://bitbucket.org/jezdez/django-staticfiles/' does not appear to be an hg repository!", "group_id": 373, "id": 313578}, {"user_id": 19839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299767873.6925261, "message": "hmm", "group_id": 373, "id": 313591}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299767878.6490159, "message": "@mpirnat If I need to depend on an unreleased version of something, I make my own private release tarball of the version I need and put it in my own local package repo.", "group_id": 373, "id": 313592}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299767890.3723531, "message": "I never use SCM requirements for a real deployment.", "group_id": 373, "id": 313595}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299768211.0811419, "message": "i'm in the machine learning class, but i took this with jacob a bit ago. it may inspire me to do a \"as of today\" ec2 vs. rackspace evaluation. until ec2 gets freebsd stable, then i'll never look back", "group_id": 373, "id": 313628}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299770350.4744821, "user_id": 4383}], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299769246.5090959, "message": "@chrishas35 --find-links can take a URL too (to just a plain directory of tarballs with indexes on). Actually I think it should always be a URL, the command I gave above should use file:///path/to/local/dir/", "group_id": 373, "id": 313914}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299768913.2538781, "message": "@chrishas35 It can, in a couple different ways.", "group_id": 373, "id": 313820}, {"user_id": 2991, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299768938.109623, "message": "What was that MEDIA_ROOT fix?", "group_id": 373, "id": 313834}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299768992.1221969, "message": "@jondkoon Didn't see what @jacobian did, but one fix that'll work is to change the MEDIA_ROOT line to \"MEDIA_ROOT = os.path.join(PROJECT_ROOT, 'media', 'uploads')\"", "group_id": 373, "id": 313847}, {"user_id": 19839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299769284.551085, "message": "nope - what version of python do you have?", "group_id": 373, "id": 313927}, {"user_id": 3815, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299768956.162154, "message": "@carljm yea?  i've done an admittedly poor search on how to do that, but came up blank", "group_id": 373, "id": 313838}, {"user_id": 20267, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299769868.4978881, "message": "Seem to be lacking some dependencies after doing pip install -r stable-requirements.txt", "group_id": 373, "id": 314028}, {"user_id": 2991, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299769011.838872, "message": "thanks", "group_id": 373, "id": 313853}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299769043.6482739, "message": "@chrishas35 PIP_DOWNLOAD_CACHE will use a local cache for downloaded packages - still goes out to the net to determine what package it wants to download, then if its present in your local cache it grabs it from there.", "group_id": 373, "id": 313859}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299770205.4099181, "user_id": 4383}], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299769092.696151, "message": "@chrishas35 If you want to keep things entirely local, you can make a local directory of package tarballs, then use \"pip install -r requirements.txt --no-index --find-links /path/to/local/tarball/directory", "group_id": 373, "id": 313876}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299769106.533627, "message": "That'll be super-fast and never touch the network at all.", "group_id": 373, "id": 313881}, {"user_id": 20289, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299769262.2244101, "user_id": 18843}], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299769110.0099449, "message": "\"I have an ethical problem with giving money to Oracle\"  :-)", "group_id": 373, "id": 313884}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299769471.3742449, "message": "@chrishas35 Yeah, that perfect combination isn't quite there without external scripting help. Can talk to you more about it at break if you want.", "group_id": 373, "id": 313971}, {"user_id": 3815, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299768884.0834639, "message": "@carljm i wish pip could be configured to look at a local cache, and if it doesnt have it then go out to the web to download.  kind of like Maven does in the java world", "group_id": 373, "id": 313812}, {"user_id": 20291, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299768939.032793, "message": "installing from requirements.txt fails on PIL install? anyone see this?", "group_id": 373, "id": 313835}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299769000.3286121, "message": "and \"mkdir media/uploads\"", "group_id": 373, "id": 313851}, {"user_id": 20289, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299769581.4176581, "message": "http://www.sensepost.com/labs/tools/poc/go-derper        #memcached server vulnerability", "group_id": 373, "id": 313982}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299769890.0159099, "message": "@Zurgy use the requirements.txt in his repo under mingus-config", "group_id": 373, "id": 314036}, {"user_id": 20265, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299769975.2413411, "message": "I have it working on local Ubuntu, what @carljm said is correct", "group_id": 373, "id": 314060}, {"user_id": 19839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299772049.1453011, "message": "setup*", "group_id": 373, "id": 314358}, {"user_id": 3815, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299769202.76876, "message": "@carljm ideally i'd like to keep things to the local network, not necessarily the local machine. be able to deploy without touching the internet (because the packages were loaded to my network server during dev and/or staging)", "group_id": 373, "id": 313906}, {"user_id": 20267, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299769848.5309441, "message": "Anyone following along and got it working?", "group_id": 373, "id": 314023}, {"user_id": 3815, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299769349.659333, "message": "@carljm but if it's not there, say the initial grab during dev or staging, i want the server to go ahead and grab it from the internet and then cache it for future use.  make sense?", "group_id": 373, "id": 313948}, {"user_id": 20267, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299769898.46823, "message": "Cheers!", "group_id": 373, "id": 314039}, {"user_id": 20267, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299770206.215307, "message": "Bingo - thanks.", "group_id": 373, "id": 314122}, {"user_id": 19982, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299772485.370625, "message": "@grobolom Also new to EC2 -- we use Rackspace Cloud Servers at work (and I've done **lots** of those deployments).", "group_id": 373, "id": 314444}, {"user_id": 19982, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299772586.9228239, "message": "@abeZaffra Haven't had time to read for sure, but some folks I know at UCSD did a pretty good security / hacking study on this topic -- http://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~hovav/papers/rtss09.html", "group_id": 373, "id": 314461}, {"user_id": 19982, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299772936.7020659, "message": "and in all fairness, Amazon follows that with \"While Amazon EC2 does provide ample protection against one customer inadvertently or maliciously attempting to view another's data, as a standard practice customers should encrypt sensitive traffic.\"", "group_id": 373, "id": 314531}, {"user_id": 20291, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299769960.378454, "message": "I had issues installing postgresql on ubuntu LTS", "group_id": 373, "id": 314053}, {"user_id": 19839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299769980.0573211, "message": "@Zurgy might get stuck later. The requirements.txt works without errors, but ./bin/django runserver doesn't work :P", "group_id": 373, "id": 314062}, {"user_id": 20265, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299769995.130168, "message": "@grobolm: use ./manage.py runserver ...", "group_id": 373, "id": 314067}, {"user_id": 20265, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299770035.3132191, "message": "er, @grobolom", "group_id": 373, "id": 314080}, {"user_id": 19839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299770080.7870181, "message": ":) thanks - might mess with it during break. Too frustrating now, heh", "group_id": 373, "id": 314088}, {"user_id": 20291, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299770912.1959381, "message": "didn't catch the errors initially", "group_id": 373, "id": 314190}, {"user_id": 20291, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299772053.7160561, "message": "@grobolom what AMI are you using?", "group_id": 373, "id": 314359}, {"user_id": 20291, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299770900.5002151, "message": "after that it all installed fine", "group_id": 373, "id": 314187}, {"user_id": 20291, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299770891.778218, "message": "@pimlottc: I just figured it out....on stock 10.04 you need to update your apt repository before doing anything", "group_id": 373, "id": 314186}, {"user_id": 20291, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299771913.0757971, "message": "@grobolom hah, i got it all sorted out :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 314339}, {"user_id": 20267, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299772002.448209, "message": "One laptop, three VMs and a blog :-)", "group_id": 373, "id": 314352}, {"user_id": 19982, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299772136.06003, "message": "@abeZaffra I'm running on EC2 with a web and db servers. I tweaked the fabfile.py to deploy on the web server.", "group_id": 373, "id": 314373}, {"user_id": 20267, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299772516.7471061, "message": "Some people recommend a VPN between your EC2 instances. Have heard tinyVPN mentioned.", "group_id": 373, "id": 314449}, {"user_id": 19839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299771895.440146, "message": "@abeZaffra yeah, though not without issues, heh", "group_id": 373, "id": 314336}, {"user_id": 19839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299772007.393333, "message": "@abeZaffra lucky. I'm gonna repop a couple servers. Very frustrating, trying to both listen and fix stuff : P", "group_id": 373, "id": 314354}, {"user_id": 20291, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299771725.248276, "message": "is anyone running their servers on EC2?", "group_id": 373, "id": 314316}, {"user_id": 20291, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299772005.5972741, "message": "@grobolom wanted to throw a shameless plug out for PyStratus. maybe someone would find some value in it", "group_id": 373, "id": 314353}, {"user_id": 20291, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299772079.253077, "message": "I'm using ami-da0cf8b3 (64-bit Ubuntu LTS)", "group_id": 373, "id": 314363}, {"user_id": 20291, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299772102.1871619, "message": "should have used 32-bit and ran small instances though :(", "group_id": 373, "id": 314367}, {"user_id": 19839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299772047.1463561, "message": "@grobolom that's what you used for setuf?", "group_id": 373, "id": 314357}, {"user_id": 20267, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299772282.6204219, "message": "Jacob - if time permits please could you talk about caching and deploying memcached. Thanks.", "group_id": 373, "id": 314404}, {"user_id": 20291, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299772383.6061311, "message": "@ryanroemer @grobolom: have either of you tackled the security issues jacob was talking about with the internal ec2 networks?", "group_id": 373, "id": 314424}, {"user_id": 20291, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299773002.9518659, "message": "makes sense...i should be more paranoid :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 314542}, {"user_id": 19839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299772431.6317129, "message": "@abeZaffra not me - completely new to EC2 : P", "group_id": 373, "id": 314434}, {"user_id": 19982, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299772163.5042491, "message": "@abeZaffra I went with ami-4a0df923 (EBS, east)", "group_id": 373, "id": 314378}, {"user_id": 19982, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299772829.229506, "message": "@abeZaffra Amazon says \"Packet sniffing by other tenants: It is not possible for a virtual instance running in promiscuous mode to receive or 'sniff' traffic that is intended for a different virtual instance.\" (http://s3.amazonaws.com/aws_blog/AWS_Security_Whitepaper_2008_09.pdf), but it pays to be way more paranoid and I readily defer to folks with actual prod. deployment experience on EC2.", "group_id": 373, "id": 314512}, {"user_id": 19982, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299772301.040561, "message": "@abeZaffra Large (I've actually got 4 larges and 2 are unused at this point).", "group_id": 373, "id": 314408}, {"user_id": 19982, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299772432.667768, "message": "I manually set the postgres conf for only my internal IPs from the other servers.", "group_id": 373, "id": 314435}, {"user_id": 20291, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299772219.7494421, "message": "@ryanroemer are you running large or xlarge?", "group_id": 373, "id": 314385}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299775005.8186929, "message": "@pimlottc what's the failure mode? any errors?", "group_id": 373, "id": 314693}, {"user_id": 19839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299772229.4059629, "message": "@abeZaffra @ryanroemer running ami-3e02f257 here.", "group_id": 373, "id": 314387}, {"user_id": 19839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299774066.004993, "message": "@neil that's a great blog post. Thanks for the link!", "group_id": 373, "id": 314631}, {"user_id": 20267, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299772380.7240839, "message": "There is a very good EC2 lib, I think it's called boto, that you can use to provision EC2 instances. Used with Fabric it's rather cool.", "group_id": 373, "id": 314423}, {"user_id": 20291, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299772433.8158369, "message": "@Zurgy: yes, boto is very cool...PyStratus is a project that leverages boto to deploy clusters for various distributed services (hadoop, cassandra, web servers?)", "group_id": 373, "id": 314436}, {"user_id": 20291, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299772495.1206801, "message": "@ryanroemer i got the impression that anyone in your availability zone could sniff on the traffic if you're not encrypting", "group_id": 373, "id": 314445}, {"user_id": 20291, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299772617.9098639, "message": "@Zurgy good idea...i definitely need to look into hardening our internal networks if it's possible to sniff our traffic", "group_id": 373, "id": 314471}, {"user_id": 20291, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299772652.5440609, "message": "@ryanroemer thanks!", "group_id": 373, "id": 314480}, {"user_id": 20291, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299775204.0598071, "message": "lol :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 314700}, {"user_id": 15008, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299774277.056345, "message": "Ahh Django advent", "group_id": 373, "id": 314644}, {"user_id": 15008, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299774278.3144591, "message": "good times", "group_id": 373, "id": 314645}, {"user_id": 38, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299773873.1686549, "message": "FWIW, we use fastcgi with Django at MochiMedia with pretty much the same config that @ericflo blogged about here: http://djangoadvent.com/1.2/deploying-django-site-using-fastcgi/", "group_id": 373, "id": 314612}, {"user_id": 38, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299774291.6426649, "message": "At some point in the near future we'll probably move to WSGI though :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 314648}, {"user_id": 20265, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299775300.8338611, "message": "ah, ok, I have to run gunicorn_django within \"django-mingus/mingus\" instead of \"django-mingus\" as his script has it", "group_id": 373, "id": 314709}, {"user_id": 13006, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299776067.6022029, "message": "What's reasonable size for the load balancer? Especially if your are using VMs on slicehost, rackspace etc??", "group_id": 373, "id": 314768}, {"user_id": 20265, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299774972.2323799, "message": "./manage.py runserver WFM but can't get either apache2 nor gunicorn working, oh well", "group_id": 373, "id": 314691}, {"user_id": 20265, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299775189.477695, "message": "gunicorn was apparently waited until I posted to make a liar out of me", "group_id": 373, "id": 314699}, {"user_id": 5852, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299783093.2914591, "message": "@realchrisdev small's fine - I usually use 512MB or 1GB instances depending on whether I want local caches or not.", "group_id": 373, "id": 315489}, {"user_id": 5852, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299783247.2897401, "message": "@Zurgy I've got an example memcached config in the repo if you want to talk a look, but sorry I didn't get to it today. Grab me in the hall some time or send an email - I'd love to talk caching.", "group_id": 373, "id": 315510}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299786739.830672, "message": "@uggedal That's great", "group_id": 373, "id": 315810}, {"user_id": 1376, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299786722.4415979, "message": "Jellis. Wishing I'd have went to this.", "group_id": 373, "id": 315807}, {"user_id": 2852, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299787159.7741239, "message": "@ericflo I've been putting off writing a blog post of how I use Puppet to configure some VMs hosting a handfull of Django/Werkzeug/Flask apps (including http://wasitup.com ). Might morp the Mingus example into how I do things (Nginx, runit (direct Puppet support through service resources), Gunicorn, Postgresql, Redis, and Fabric for pushing updated app code) and write a blog post about it.", "group_id": 373, "id": 315854}, {"user_id": 2852, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299786730.173486, "user_id": 1}], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299786678.212611, "message": "A start of a Puppet configuration of the Mingus deployment example: https://github.com/uggedal/ddw-puppet", "group_id": 373, "id": 315797}, {"user_id": 2852, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299792259.0625589, "message": "@ericflo I'm not using specific resources either. Lots of defines and file/exec.", "group_id": 373, "id": 316537}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1299792186.025094, "message": "@uggedal Can't wait to see it. For convore I did not add direct support for stuff, just used the file and exec directives a lot sadly. It works, but I'd like to clean it up sometime.", "group_id": 373, "id": 316531}, {"user_id": 11506, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300905830.1307459, "user_id": 23707}], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1300783974.347131, "message": "I'm watching the 2010 video for the Python/Django deployment workshop http://www.pycon.tv/#/video/112", "group_id": 373, "id": 405761}, {"user_id": 11506, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1300784016.739522, "message": "Has the 2011 workshop been uploaded somewhere?", "group_id": 373, "id": 405767}, {"user_id": 1736, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1300813658.2381101, "message": "@atlasstrategic Tutorials this year were not recorded", "group_id": 373, "id": 409145}, {"user_id": 3354, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300833903.7459159, "user_id": 18843}, {"date_created": 1300834391.883534, "user_id": 1736}, {"date_created": 1300866936.382792, "user_id": 19747}], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1300832912.04194, "message": "We have to limit resources to try keep the cost of PyCon down, and just couldn't afford to record so many parallel sessions. Also, since some tutorial instructors give professional training we might not get such great cooperation if they were going to be available as videos. We don't pay the instructors a huge amount, so they are really doing PyCon a big favor. And I also like to think of the tutorials as a real \"only at PyCon\" thing - I didn't realize until this year that some people do just come to PyCon for tutorials without registering for the conference.", "group_id": 373, "id": 412429}, {"user_id": 19747, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1300867091.874758, "message": "@holdenweb Personally the tutorials were the greatest value out of everything at PyCon.", "group_id": 373, "id": 415322}, {"user_id": 1736, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1300905842.067173, "message": "@JeffSelf There are usually a number of tutorials that are two-parters", "group_id": 373, "id": 419655}, {"user_id": 6165, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300946219.2713189, "user_id": 1930}, {"date_created": 1301295351.960464, "user_id": 20582}, {"date_created": 1301471748.9415009, "user_id": 20812}], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1300905681.2565219, "message": "I didn't attend tutorials this year because I felt many of the ones I attended have felt too rushed.  It's hard to do a tutorial of something in 3 hours.  Maybe if there was an option for an all-day tutorial, I'd feel different.  I've been to too many where the instructor was condensing a 3 day course into 3 hours.  Three hours is fine if the tutorial is very specific like 'Using Django Models' or about a specific Python library.  Any thoughts on a full-day tutorial track?", "group_id": 373, "id": 419609}, {"user_id": 1736, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1300908394.6631491, "message": "@holdenweb PyCon also has gotten more expensive over the years, and maybe offering more tutorials has somehow diluted things?", "group_id": 373, "id": 419994}, {"user_id": 3354, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300908364.332273, "user_id": 1736}], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1300908139.815325, "message": "I don't think there are the same incentives there used to be for tutorial instructors. You used to be able to pay your way through PyCon by teaching a couple of tutorials. Maybe I just have less time now.", "group_id": 373, "id": 419968}, {"user_id": 5852, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1300911109.852509, "message": "As an anecdote, I would have been really conflicted about having my talk recorded. Wearing my open source hat I really would want to get the information out there. But when I put on my business hat I don't want to give away for free something I charge for otherwise. It's a tough bind.", "group_id": 373, "id": 420271}, {"user_id": 5852, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1300911128.0464611, "message": "So I guess I'm glad PyCon decided for me and saved me having to make my own call :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 420274}, {"user_id": 1736, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1300915626.861202, "message": "@jacobian I don't do professional training, but IMO a fair split is to post the slides somewhere (probably without my notes) but not the talk itself.", "group_id": 373, "id": 421130}, {"user_id": 5852, "stars": [{"date_created": 1301629251.0025041, "user_id": 12780}], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1300929405.9369011, "message": "@coderanger yup, and that's what I did -- posted slides+code but not the talk itself. Seems like an ok compromise to me at least.", "group_id": 373, "id": 422389}, {"user_id": 11506, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1300970800.293184, "message": "@jacobian The tutorial is uber useful and greatly appreciated (no pycons or djangocons in South Africa). @sizeight and myself are planning to attend the Djangocon (US) in September this year. Are you considering to host a workshop at the conference?", "group_id": 373, "id": 426163}, {"user_id": 3354, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1301117733.4360261, "message": "@coderanger Don't think so. I keep suggesting that we increase and simplify tutorial pricing. I think this year we got simplification. But the tutorials subsidize the conference, not other other way around.", "group_id": 373, "id": 444983}, {"user_id": 1930, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1301119726.4305961, "message": "@atlasstrategic - @jacobian has a migrating to django 1.3 webcast next week - that might be cost-effective to join", "group_id": 373, "id": 445190}, {"user_id": 1930, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1301119898.9847319, "message": "... prolly not cool for @jacobian-ish to dog his own pony; hope 'tis 'k if I do: http://bit.ly/h4HGmK", "group_id": 373, "id": 445232}, {"user_id": 5852, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1301352066.8913441, "message": "@yarkot thanks :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 462846}, {"user_id": 27011, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11992, "date_created": 1301626100.0800941, "message": "Yo", "group_id": 373, "id": 498774}]