convore.json/groups/pycon-2011/pythonistas-with-kids/messages.json

[{"user_id": 7372, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299881254.3887861, "message": "Do two things. We have a coffeehousecoders event every wed http://coffeehousecode.appspot.com/locations/detroit.html so I have scheduled hack time and try to balance the post-kids-bed time.", "group_id": 373, "id": 327875}, {"user_id": 19366, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299881636.185482, "message": "@ptone absolutely.  Have to stop myself from attempting it so often...", "group_id": 373, "id": 327978}, {"user_id": 14874, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299881842.6070499, "message": "More tips? I'm entering into this world soon \u2026", "group_id": 373, "id": 328033}, {"user_id": 13604, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299881187.1479249, "message": "it's hard, particularly around issues of sleep (or lack thereof)", "group_id": 373, "id": 327854}, {"user_id": 563, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300082112.0175731, "user_id": 3751}], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299881592.2530329, "message": "When my kid was little I got on a schedule where I start at 4am so I can get good solid coding time in before he woke.  In addition it allowed me to be available for him and the wife whenever because I got most of my work done by noon.  Not a option for a lot of people but works for me.  Now that he's almost 16 I still do the same schedule.", "group_id": 373, "id": 327965}, {"user_id": 1822, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299881666.4921319, "message": "@husker_geek to be sure I'm regularly guilty of it myself", "group_id": 373, "id": 327986}, {"user_id": 20745, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299881013.6270001, "message": "how do you balance your \"coding\" life with trying to be a good parent?", "group_id": 373, "id": 327826}, {"user_id": 1822, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299883054.6735001, "user_id": 3926}], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299881221.6928179, "message": "'zone' time is hard - I've switched from coding late at night, to getting up super early", "group_id": 373, "id": 327869}, {"user_id": 1822, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299881959.6401579, "message": "tip: be realistic, 12 hour marathon sessions just aren't likely, you are now sharing your life with a new person in the mix", "group_id": 373, "id": 328071}, {"user_id": 1822, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299882423.085675, "message": "Also, I cut cable TV out of the equation 5 years ago - don't miss it at all (life is too short for commercials - and you don't need your kids watching them either)", "group_id": 373, "id": 328144}, {"user_id": 1822, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299881380.8451729, "message": "trying to code and watch kids at the same time results in both being done ineffectively", "group_id": 373, "id": 327913}, {"user_id": 1924, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299882343.1752889, "message": "@mjamesruggiero In the name of focus, face time, and recognition of couch-ing out, we established a 2-3 hour no screen time in our home has helped curb our collective tendency to not let the evenings slip away.", "group_id": 373, "id": 328131}, {"user_id": 20745, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299882103.8056231, "message": "@ptone I've started to do that lately (getting up early)", "group_id": 373, "id": 328094}, {"user_id": 20745, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299882387.8987451, "message": "yeah. I've tried really hard to ensure that every night there's a set time for playing, reading books, etc.", "group_id": 373, "id": 328135}, {"user_id": 6165, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299881857.9412489, "message": "I can't code at night. Brain shuts down. So I'll get up around 4 or so if I need to work on something. Takes about 10 minutes to wake up completely.", "group_id": 373, "id": 328038}, {"user_id": 13604, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299881930.1238379, "message": "tip: accept your limitations, and establish \"stop times\" where you really don't work (no phone/email). your focus will benefit.", "group_id": 373, "id": 328065}, {"user_id": 1822, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299882022.7763519, "message": "My choice saying I've coined for soon-to-be parents: \"prepare to be unprepared\" ;-)", "group_id": 373, "id": 328081}, {"user_id": 20745, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299882422.8465979, "message": "with my commute, I usually only get 1.5-2h in the evening with the little guy.", "group_id": 373, "id": 328143}, {"user_id": 1822, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299881981.685154, "message": "focus on quality > quantity", "group_id": 373, "id": 328074}, {"user_id": 12142, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300195125.785274, "user_id": 1760}, {"date_created": 1300200534.4704101, "user_id": 19679}], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299883021.743366, "message": "I should be able to join this conversation within the next 24 hours.", "group_id": 373, "id": 328246}, {"user_id": 12142, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299883368.8766401, "user_id": 14874}, {"date_created": 1299883879.0129049, "user_id": 1}, {"date_created": 1299883724.94923, "user_id": 14463}, {"date_created": 1299884022.076385, "user_id": 1822}, {"date_created": 1299904483.726656, "user_id": 16263}, {"date_created": 1300195130.6271291, "user_id": 1760}], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299883072.9148459, "message": "contractions 6 minutes apart ... one of the only reasons to miss PyCon.", "group_id": 373, "id": 328258}, {"user_id": 257, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299883923.8375151, "message": "@skyl, congrats!", "group_id": 373, "id": 328363}, {"user_id": 257, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299884008.0389349, "message": "I guess I don't have much to contribute to this thread, except for maybe a list of things not to do.  Still trying to find a balance", "group_id": 373, "id": 328379}, {"user_id": 19784, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299885204.0681009, "message": "yeah I've been dealing with a kid in school with problems from here", "group_id": 373, "id": 328614}, {"user_id": 7372, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299882413.0771339, "message": "Yea, from the time we get home from day care until bedtime the cell phone gets put away and we don't keep a tv/computer in the play area. Really helps to make sure those hours are quality time with the boy.", "group_id": 373, "id": 328140}, {"user_id": 20745, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299882782.296875, "message": "yeah; every once in a while we watch stuff on PBS. he was fascinated by the les mis concert last week", "group_id": 373, "id": 328196}, {"user_id": 20745, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299883031.4159689, "message": ":)", "group_id": 373, "id": 328250}, {"user_id": 19784, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299884576.492775, "message": "and the two hours after bedtime.", "group_id": 373, "id": 328526}, {"user_id": 257, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299885048.756696, "message": "i'm on paternal leave now (we have 10 weeks in Norway), and it's impossible to get any work done unless he's sleeping.", "group_id": 373, "id": 328593}, {"user_id": 12142, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299883132.992888, "message": "thanks :) working on some python music stuff that I hope he'll soon be interested in :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 328268}, {"user_id": 19784, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299885222.718257, "message": "3 calls from teachers during tutorials", "group_id": 373, "id": 328620}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299883883.6593471, "message": "@skyl whoa, congrats!", "group_id": 373, "id": 328360}, {"user_id": 20745, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299883083.136446, "message": "congrats!", "group_id": 373, "id": 328259}, {"user_id": 3926, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299883125.4080131, "message": "@ptone That's exactly what I've had to do as well.  Up around five-ish. Unfortunately, it's not terribly compatible with collaborators in the same time zone.", "group_id": 373, "id": 328266}, {"user_id": 20745, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299884971.689816, "message": "we're starting to evaluate daycare options. I just can't do my job when I'm home alone watching him... I need to have at least a small block of hours during business hours....", "group_id": 373, "id": 328580}, {"user_id": 19784, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299884572.876801, "message": "6 hours during school", "group_id": 373, "id": 328525}, {"user_id": 19784, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299884571.3666649, "message": "I have the 75 minutes before school", "group_id": 373, "id": 328523}, {"user_id": 20745, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299885196.05162, "message": "very seldom I can if he gets contented with playing on his own, but yeah when he first came home, there was no way. :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 328612}, {"user_id": 20709, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299885244.0502551, "message": "yikes. my kids are just trying to not go to sleep at night", "group_id": 373, "id": 328628}, {"user_id": 20745, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299885318.0630231, "message": "I'm so glad we're finally over that. He'll sleep til 6:30am usually.", "group_id": 373, "id": 328643}, {"user_id": 19366, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299886334.221139, "message": "I think @ptone has it right--drop your expectations.  I find that when I do, I am happier, and thusly my children are, too.  If I need the time, I block it off completely.  Of course, this often means I am up way later than I would like to be.", "group_id": 373, "id": 328809}, {"user_id": 3354, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299936209.8744349, "user_id": 1924}, {"date_created": 1299936674.8096271, "user_id": 4120}, {"date_created": 1299937973.3144729, "user_id": 210}, {"date_created": 1300109005.4895849, "user_id": 20654}, {"date_created": 1300113966.186269, "user_id": 978}, {"date_created": 1300196738.8068931, "user_id": 3926}], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299915667.9128671, "message": "Whatever you do, make your kid a priority and not the coding (not trying to intimate that other advice contradicts this, but I only have one kid andI know I valued every hour we spent together). This stuff only goes by once. Don't miss it.", "group_id": 373, "id": 330736}, {"user_id": 4120, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299936723.5459809, "message": "+1 for the early morning coding and for spending as much time as possible with your kids. The bond is important - and you'll have more time when they're teenagers if you can trust them with the keys to the car.", "group_id": 373, "id": 331652}, {"user_id": 210, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299938047.42539, "message": "Just to be the dissenter, I actually find my best coding times to be after the kids got to bed. I can't do early mornings & I find it easier to use coding as a way to settle down at night after the rush.", "group_id": 373, "id": 331735}, {"user_id": 20954, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299938208.8866601, "message": "Having children(I have a 2 and 4 yo) has dramatically changed how much time I spent at work and coding at home.  @holdenweb is 100% right - make your kids the priority, not your code.  You'll figure out a schedule that works for you and the kid eventually.", "group_id": 373, "id": 331751}, {"user_id": 4120, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1299938769.692183, "message": "i've also had fun with a split schedule.. taking a nap at bedtime.. then waking up at 11:00 and working until they go to school.. doesn't revert to weekends with family very well since you'll be sleeping during the day.", "group_id": 373, "id": 331809}, {"user_id": 20626, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1300082061.1841481, "message": "it wouldn't benefit me -- bringing my kids would not allow me to immerse in pycon, at all. i wouldn't have been able to stay up hacking all night with cool people.", "group_id": 373, "id": 345219}, {"user_id": 3354, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300195173.7129071, "user_id": 1760}], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1300081889.81723, "message": "Would it help to have reasonably-priced reliable day care at PyCon?", "group_id": 373, "id": 345206}, {"user_id": 3354, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1300081915.051162, "message": "We've talked about it, but it's never really gathered any momentum - it would need someone to own the issue.", "group_id": 373, "id": 345209}, {"user_id": 19652, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300091619.3055739, "user_id": 19747}], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1300088852.2088521, "message": "@nickstinemates @holdenweb agreed although a wife/girlfriend meetup could", "group_id": 373, "id": 345559}, {"user_id": 19747, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1300091969.394027, "message": "@holdenweb If I had spawn, I would either leave them with very close friends or relatives, or bring the whole family on a vacation and meet up with them. There is no way I would trust a strange daycare in a strange town to watch them for me, and I would not want the inevitable interruptions during conference time. @elpargo +1 on the spouse/partner meetup.", "group_id": 373, "id": 345654}, {"user_id": 1822, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1300096214.9514019, "message": "I think the primary advantage of daycare at pycon is it could make the \"sell\" of a vacation to the wife easier if she knew she would have some \"me\" time without the kids.  As such it would only need some limited hours to be effective.", "group_id": 373, "id": 345753}, {"user_id": 1822, "stars": [{"date_created": 1300259308.9280379, "user_id": 20582}], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1300096110.784646, "message": "@steve_piercy your opinion and threshold of what constitutes \"strange\" (ie trustable) daycare might change once you have the reality of spawn in your life ;-)", "group_id": 373, "id": 345748}, {"user_id": 19747, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1300099583.3633821, "message": "@ptone My opinion is unlikely to change. Watching spawn for a couple of hours for a date (babysitting) and daycare over the course of a conference are two different things. PyCon spouses/partners and close trusted friends are not mutually exclusive, so it doesn't need a third party to organize it.", "group_id": 373, "id": 345940}, {"user_id": 19784, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1300109242.631763, "message": "@steve_piercy I had a less than desirable experience leaving my son with the KokoPelli kids club at Mariott  for a conference in 2004.", "group_id": 373, "id": 347197}, {"user_id": 19747, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1300135506.973887, "message": "Alternative to daycare, and since I grew up in Santa Clara County and know the area well, I have already volunteered to help with hospitality for PyCon 2012 and 2013. There's lots of fun stuff for families with rug rats to enjoy in my stomping grounds.", "group_id": 373, "id": 350890}, {"user_id": 3354, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1300176741.0653839, "message": "That might be a better way to handle things if you can. Were PyCon to offer facilities there is no way we could avoid using professional licensed staff and jumping through hoops to remove potential liability issues. If it's done informally between friends then mutual trust can replace fees and insurance. Probably more comfortable all round?", "group_id": 373, "id": 353935}, {"user_id": 4120, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12485, "date_created": 1300198590.5837369, "message": "Day care options really depend on age. If the kids are school age- they may already be in daycare all day anyway ;-) So, just have some fun guided activities.  Most parents enjoy providing play dates for the kids and the kids love it too.", "group_id": 373, "id": 356258}]