convore.json/groups/pycon-2011/reverse-engineering-ian-bicking/messages.json

[{"user_id": 6279, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299873016.043716, "message": "I think I'll go ahead and get this out the way", "group_id": 373, "id": 326183}, {"user_id": 4971, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299874109.9393971, "user_id": 1874}, {"date_created": 1299874115.9525361, "user_id": 20582}, {"date_created": 1299874116.628525, "user_id": 13954}, {"date_created": 1299874126.6977401, "user_id": 1243}, {"date_created": 1299874196.303195, "user_id": 18843}, {"date_created": 1299874354.429965, "user_id": 927}], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874098.585223, "message": "yay for #!/usr/bin/env python", "group_id": 373, "id": 326315}, {"user_id": 6279, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299873025.892889, "message": "Malcovich.", "group_id": 373, "id": 326184}, {"user_id": 7018, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299873037.9583671, "message": "who is John Galt?", "group_id": 373, "id": 326187}, {"user_id": 4971, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299873329.713784, "message": "@ericflo are you here, I want to get beers :) (and btw yes, he's here)", "group_id": 373, "id": 326223}, {"user_id": 4971, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299873452.0609331, "user_id": 208}, {"date_created": 1299873528.3401041, "user_id": 213}], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299873401.9958711, "message": "@ericflo great, we can find @kvbik later and get some sixpacks, I will advise Alex to prepare for a lap dance", "group_id": 373, "id": 326232}, {"user_id": 1243, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299873799.635359, "user_id": 1}, {"date_created": 1299873809.9996359, "user_id": 7563}, {"date_created": 1299873835.2850039, "user_id": 4971}, {"date_created": 1299873844.1507781, "user_id": 18843}, {"date_created": 1299873859.7607989, "user_id": 210}, {"date_created": 1299877999.2392709, "user_id": 214}], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299873775.3889461, "message": "Is anyone else hearing \"like a virtualenv\" to the tune of \"like a boss\"", "group_id": 373, "id": 326274}, {"user_id": 38, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299873949.991653, "message": "+1 this is great so far", "group_id": 373, "id": 326299}, {"user_id": 7563, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874129.207742, "message": "Using the system iPython with virtualenv: http://igotgenes.blogspot.com/2010/01/interactive-sandboxes-using-ipython.html BUT, I recommend an install directly into your virtualenv.", "group_id": 373, "id": 326322}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874932.98686, "message": "err *.txt", "group_id": 373, "id": 326571}, {"user_id": 6431, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874128.5467081, "message": "easily discovered with \"which ipython\"", "group_id": 373, "id": 326321}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299875013.8219881, "message": "@elpargo create a package for your project, its what we do", "group_id": 373, "id": 326601}, {"user_id": 7018, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299873282.4466381, "user_id": 20196}, {"date_created": 1299873366.474587, "user_id": 2051}, {"date_created": 1299873374.653429, "user_id": 927}, {"date_created": 1299873500.1438849, "user_id": 213}, {"date_created": 1299873533.4684889, "user_id": 18843}, {"date_created": 1299874635.7346649, "user_id": 560}], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299872995.078388, "message": "pip install ianbicking", "group_id": 373, "id": 326180}, {"user_id": 14463, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299873001.533407, "message": "Dang, you beat me to creating the room :P", "group_id": 373, "id": 326182}, {"user_id": 20590, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299873855.329596, "user_id": 1152}, {"date_created": 1299873866.365176, "user_id": 1}, {"date_created": 1299873893.71943, "user_id": 1175}, {"date_created": 1299873908.9745331, "user_id": 1243}, {"date_created": 1299874107.0850501, "user_id": 20196}], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299873836.0647089, "message": "This is really awesome.", "group_id": 373, "id": 326283}, {"user_id": 14463, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299873860.95225, "message": "What about checking for the virtualenv environment variables?", "group_id": 373, "id": 326288}, {"user_id": 20590, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874096.0795741, "message": "Interesting, this is similar to the DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE vs. manage.py thing, eh?", "group_id": 373, "id": 326314}, {"user_id": 20611, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874369.793941, "message": "@djdarkbeat I didn't know about it either actually. heard about it just before pycon", "group_id": 373, "id": 326376}, {"user_id": 16263, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874508.076406, "message": "Pip pypi pep poop?", "group_id": 373, "id": 326432}, {"user_id": 213, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874547.143733, "message": "@zeeg There will be a pypy compatible release soon, get it by pip install virtualenv==tip", "group_id": 373, "id": 326445}, {"user_id": 7563, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874812.1702459, "message": "@j2d2 \"pull down the shell virtualenvwrapper.sh\"? I don't understand, it does ship with the package.", "group_id": 373, "id": 326520}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299875033.114572, "message": "well timed fade to black", "group_id": 373, "id": 326613}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299875037.046813, "message": "@brainsik maybe :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 326615}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299875088.991194, "user_id": 1175}, {"date_created": 1299875089.5693481, "user_id": 18843}, {"date_created": 1299875095.809021, "user_id": 19652}], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299875078.4029291, "message": "\"i was lazy\" - Ian", "group_id": 373, "id": 326625}, {"user_id": 19652, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299875167.719943, "message": "@zeeg I have replaced that with pip install -r deploy/requirements.txt", "group_id": 373, "id": 326650}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299873566.525466, "message": "interesting about os.py", "group_id": 373, "id": 326250}, {"user_id": 4971, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299873978.2471581, "message": "it is great, but also scary :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 326301}, {"user_id": 20611, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874344.311415, "message": "@gpshead especially the last bit about many Ian's hacks", "group_id": 373, "id": 326364}, {"user_id": 19652, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874555.0131099, "message": "@wolever venv has a bunch all over the place. It's kind of weird but it works", "group_id": 373, "id": 326451}, {"user_id": 560, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874295.335325, "message": "Talks too.", "group_id": 373, "id": 326347}, {"user_id": 6279, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299873031.9240479, "message": "Malcovich.", "group_id": 373, "id": 326186}, {"user_id": 14463, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299873720.352309, "message": "Wadda we need that for?", "group_id": 373, "id": 326269}, {"user_id": 1152, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299873911.362983, "message": "@adrianh happy you're enjoying it", "group_id": 373, "id": 326296}, {"user_id": 20709, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874488.6634459, "message": "where do you want that pony?", "group_id": 373, "id": 326421}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299874837.5147181, "user_id": 1152}], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874697.6120131, "message": "virtualenv be included with python3? lets do it!", "group_id": 373, "id": 326487}, {"user_id": 6279, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299873027.6911609, "message": "Malcovich Malcovich.", "group_id": 373, "id": 326185}, {"user_id": 16263, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299873874.7536139, "user_id": 1175}], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299873864.4609909, "message": "Extreme talks wake up your mind, is the drug I needed", "group_id": 373, "id": 326289}, {"user_id": 14463, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299874073.8399539, "user_id": 1175}], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874057.6307869, "message": "Ah, and that's why you shouldn't use the environment variables \u2014 because they don't necessarily *need* to exist.", "group_id": 373, "id": 326309}, {"user_id": 603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874141.1091149, "message": "i wish more programs would use the bin/env instead of hardcoding the path", "group_id": 373, "id": 326324}, {"user_id": 19784, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874359.09887, "message": "I heard about it at lunch", "group_id": 373, "id": 326371}, {"user_id": 1152, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874396.512686, "message": "AHHHHH", "group_id": 373, "id": 326386}, {"user_id": 20709, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874408.0763619, "message": "virtualenv doesn't like python3, and you need virtualenv3", "group_id": 373, "id": 326391}, {"user_id": 20709, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874509.1627181, "message": "you're not gong to get it via fedex", "group_id": 373, "id": 326433}, {"user_id": 20611, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874515.510469, "message": "outstanding @wolever", "group_id": 373, "id": 326435}, {"user_id": 560, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874715.5141311, "message": "s/he/the/. Damn iPad!", "group_id": 373, "id": 326491}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874778.4135301, "message": "get a netbook", "group_id": 373, "id": 326515}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874826.2558229, "message": "open space at 11am tomorrow for virtualenv etc", "group_id": 373, "id": 326533}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299875121.4543641, "message": "well those were fun back to back", "group_id": 373, "id": 326636}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874925.5696399, "message": "and ya, pip is only useful in the sense that it gives you requirements.py, and is more flexible than setuptools", "group_id": 373, "id": 326567}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299873293.866215, "message": "Is @ianbicking here? I want him to heckle :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 326220}, {"user_id": 16263, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299873817.552362, "message": "@gthank muhahahaha", "group_id": 373, "id": 326281}, {"user_id": 20590, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299873844.135344, "message": "Exactly what PyCon is for.", "group_id": 373, "id": 326285}, {"user_id": 20590, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299874404.2067859, "user_id": 4971}, {"date_created": 1299874600.327419, "user_id": 7563}, {"date_created": 1299875603.9371071, "user_id": 14865}, {"date_created": 1299878295.3228619, "user_id": 214}], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874390.4619901, "message": "@gpshead: The only thing preventing it from being the best slide ever is that he put the periods outside the parenthesis in the last two bullets </pedant>", "group_id": 373, "id": 326382}, {"user_id": 19784, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874478.389781, "message": "@gpshead and rainbows", "group_id": 373, "id": 326415}, {"user_id": 14874, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299874593.678757, "user_id": 1175}, {"date_created": 1299874593.860451, "user_id": 1916}, {"date_created": 1299874631.1688459, "user_id": 1152}, {"date_created": 1299874655.5246439, "user_id": 18843}, {"date_created": 1299874671.521976, "user_id": 20660}, {"date_created": 1299874699.0943551, "user_id": 7563}], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874576.9285951, "message": "Anyone use virtualenvwrapper? It's the bomb.", "group_id": 373, "id": 326456}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299873368.140522, "message": "@HonzaKral I am here", "group_id": 373, "id": 326229}, {"user_id": 19652, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299873384.896172, "message": "On the back kind of hidding", "group_id": 373, "id": 326230}, {"user_id": 19652, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299873448.603215, "message": "Looking forward to this talk. Last time I try to fix a bug in venv it was painful", "group_id": 373, "id": 326240}, {"user_id": 20611, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299873714.5344639, "message": "YAY Victory!", "group_id": 373, "id": 326268}, {"user_id": 1175, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299873725.8451929, "message": "cool that the python bin can run on its own", "group_id": 373, "id": 326270}, {"user_id": 7563, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299873789.2147059, "message": "@gthank absolutely.", "group_id": 373, "id": 326277}, {"user_id": 1874, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874113.434998, "message": "@HonzaKral +1 :O", "group_id": 373, "id": 326318}, {"user_id": 210, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874153.6904049, "message": "I blanched at the ``execfile``. Owwie.", "group_id": 373, "id": 326325}, {"user_id": 4748, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874275.3537731, "message": "Probably still some of them. But not in this room", "group_id": 373, "id": 326342}, {"user_id": 19784, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874339.7053039, "message": "I didn't know about it.", "group_id": 373, "id": 326362}, {"user_id": 19784, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874353.4770651, "message": "either", "group_id": 373, "id": 326368}, {"user_id": 19784, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874373.914057, "message": "seems similar to ruby virtual environments.", "group_id": 373, "id": 326377}, {"user_id": 14463, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299874511.546901, "user_id": 1243}, {"date_created": 1299874536.0061791, "user_id": 20624}], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874502.714323, "message": "http://images.memegenerator.net/Y-U-NO/File/166088/Y-U-NO.jpg", "group_id": 373, "id": 326429}, {"user_id": 20709, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874390.6188619, "message": "I had to deal with it at a tutorial", "group_id": 373, "id": 326383}, {"user_id": 560, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874732.1098499, "message": "Typos everywhere... Oh wellz", "group_id": 373, "id": 326496}, {"user_id": 560, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874857.9457929, "message": "@gotgenes Where does pip put virtualenvwrapper.sh?", "group_id": 373, "id": 326546}, {"user_id": 20611, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299873789.2171509, "message": "yep", "group_id": 373, "id": 326278}, {"user_id": 560, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874239.7607679, "message": "I'm curious how many people still don't know about virtualenv", "group_id": 373, "id": 326333}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874448.8277731, "message": "virtualenv doesnt like pypy either :(", "group_id": 373, "id": 326404}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874460.5522671, "message": "(speaking of which, someone from pypy should help me get it working so we can try it out on our large test suite)", "group_id": 373, "id": 326408}, {"user_id": 20611, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874468.2671051, "message": "where's the meme image for this!", "group_id": 373, "id": 326412}, {"user_id": 6431, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299874494.82409, "user_id": 1175}, {"date_created": 1299874496.6084881, "user_id": 20624}, {"date_created": 1299874501.714474, "user_id": 1}], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874482.366539, "message": "it's nicknamed \"the pip pep\"", "group_id": 373, "id": 326417}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874253.3085461, "message": "hard to ask that here ;)", "group_id": 373, "id": 326338}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874324.520251, "message": "\"pip: ugliest. hack. evar\"  (best slide evar?)", "group_id": 373, "id": 326352}, {"user_id": 20705, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874349.1784379, "message": "@j2d2 know about or use it? i've known about it but looking forward to actually using it", "group_id": 373, "id": 326367}, {"user_id": 560, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874287.6287711, "message": "Many people who attend nycpython still don't know it, but we've had multiple yaks on it", "group_id": 373, "id": 326345}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874358.294641, "message": "execfile(__file__)", "group_id": 373, "id": 326370}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874403.334939, "message": "hehehe", "group_id": 373, "id": 326388}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874602.774482, "message": "@jezdez  tried using one described in the pypy tutorial and it failed miserably -- I then quickly realized I was on Python 2.6, which I'm not sure is supported", "group_id": 373, "id": 326466}, {"user_id": 16263, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874739.7751961, "message": "@j2d2 just buy an ipad 2", "group_id": 373, "id": 326501}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874763.6613951, "message": "haha that'll solve everything @graffic ;)", "group_id": 373, "id": 326508}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874961.4171791, "message": "we bundle all our deps at deployable package build time into a self extracting zipfile that launches the main .py file.  no need for virtualenv/pip in that environment.  not what most people do though.", "group_id": 373, "id": 326580}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874963.245317, "message": "though, I also wish pip could uninstall packages (maybe distribute is the answer?)", "group_id": 373, "id": 326581}, {"user_id": 6431, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299874988.360975, "user_id": 1}, {"date_created": 1299875068.5256901, "user_id": 1916}, {"date_created": 1299875088.232981, "user_id": 20196}], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874971.1274741, "message": "I had a dastardly plan to add a python package to pypi called requirements.txt ... for all those who pip install requirements.txt without the -r", "group_id": 373, "id": 326584}, {"user_id": 19652, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299875000.3942311, "message": "@zeeg but they serve different purposes. Setup.py is deps for the package", "group_id": 373, "id": 326596}, {"user_id": 213, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299875076.240674, "user_id": 4971}], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299875069.3572791, "message": "eggs are bad", "group_id": 373, "id": 326623}, {"user_id": 2375, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874390.2643149, "message": "indeed", "group_id": 373, "id": 326381}, {"user_id": 213, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874447.145097, "message": "@wiredfool yet", "group_id": 373, "id": 326403}, {"user_id": 1175, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874558.020833, "message": "I hope I never have to do this", "group_id": 373, "id": 326452}, {"user_id": 19652, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874675.5477941, "message": "@wiredfool or virtualenv5", "group_id": 373, "id": 326482}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874739.757549, "message": "https://github.com/carljm/pipvirtualenv-preso", "group_id": 373, "id": 326500}, {"user_id": 20590, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874805.409276, "message": "I spy Ian Bicking in the question line", "group_id": 373, "id": 326518}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874812.8775511, "message": "haha followed by Ian", "group_id": 373, "id": 326523}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874835.783042, "message": "\"a lot of people\" is an understatement", "group_id": 373, "id": 326536}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299874867.3979149, "user_id": 1152}], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874841.931215, "message": "anyone who doesnt use pip/virtualenv needs to GTFO", "group_id": 373, "id": 326542}, {"user_id": 213, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874886.5060711, "message": "@j2d2 In the bin/ dir", "group_id": 373, "id": 326554}, {"user_id": 560, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874924.3384719, "message": "Ah ok. My bad then.", "group_id": 373, "id": 326566}, {"user_id": 14874, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874977.68853, "message": "@zeeg pip uninstall is a nice convenience", "group_id": 373, "id": 326586}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299875039.368933, "user_id": 1127}, {"date_created": 1299875043.7610099, "user_id": 1152}, {"date_created": 1299875066.8108039, "user_id": 1243}, {"date_created": 1299875075.4752431, "user_id": 19652}], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299875032.2508969, "message": "ugh eggs", "group_id": 373, "id": 326612}, {"user_id": 19652, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299875063.0608251, "message": "@zeeg well that's what requirements.txt is for without the extra package :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 326622}, {"user_id": 1175, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299875115.057653, "message": "@gpshead judging by the egg-sentiment here, that makes sense", "group_id": 373, "id": 326630}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299875125.528729, "message": "haters gonna hate, for reason, on eggs :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 326639}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874405.348985, "message": ".", "group_id": 373, "id": 326390}, {"user_id": 213, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874459.141376, "message": "@zeeg yet", "group_id": 373, "id": 326406}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874462.2852149, "message": "someone make a virtualenv23 that dynamically runs 2to3 or 3to2 as needed (and gives me a pony)", "group_id": 373, "id": 326410}, {"user_id": 1243, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874607.8899181, "message": "Don't forget the plugins, especially virtualenvwrapper.project", "group_id": 373, "id": 326471}, {"user_id": 12660, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874610.549468, "message": "@brainsik yup!  it's great.", "group_id": 373, "id": 326473}, {"user_id": 6431, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874752.5298331, "message": "make nicer = no branching on versions based on internal stdlib imports", "group_id": 373, "id": 326505}, {"user_id": 560, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874815.023576, "message": "I have a netbook. It won't get reception!", "group_id": 373, "id": 326526}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874837.821193, "message": "hack off!", "group_id": 373, "id": 326539}, {"user_id": 6431, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874886.7463329, "message": "@Paul_Collins virtualenv is the more useful of the 2 IMO", "group_id": 373, "id": 326555}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874911.872704, "message": "@Paul_Collins at least its half-way -- virtualenv is a necessity though IMO", "group_id": 373, "id": 326562}, {"user_id": 16263, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874936.531245, "message": "Python without virtualenv is like windows and the .dll mess of windows/system32", "group_id": 373, "id": 326572}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874945.7870009, "message": "i wish it was more integrated, so that setup.py install could fully handle dependancies", "group_id": 373, "id": 326577}, {"user_id": 19784, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874584.5575571, "message": "@j2d2 Thanks", "group_id": 373, "id": 326460}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299874694.060082, "user_id": 19652}, {"date_created": 1299874836.4018061, "user_id": 1152}], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874685.124181, "message": "pip turn into a wrapper around distutils2 and go into stdlib.  lets see it happen.", "group_id": 373, "id": 326484}, {"user_id": 560, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874574.29444, "message": "I blogged how I got virtualenv working with multiple python versions (sorta including 3.x) in case anyone needs a hand with it: http://j2labs.tumblr.com/post/2904859594/python-2-6-2-7-and-3-1-with-virtualenv", "group_id": 373, "id": 326454}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299874634.9227149, "user_id": 1152}, {"date_created": 1299874642.0772281, "user_id": 1175}, {"date_created": 1299874642.3833549, "user_id": 560}, {"date_created": 1299874645.7265811, "user_id": 14874}, {"date_created": 1299874651.86127, "user_id": 20624}, {"date_created": 1299874660.78795, "user_id": 18843}, {"date_created": 1299874666.4225769, "user_id": 20660}, {"date_created": 1299874682.207602, "user_id": 19652}, {"date_created": 1299874685.516665, "user_id": 1243}, {"date_created": 1299874725.4501629, "user_id": 7563}], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874627.4146171, "message": "imo virtualenvwrapper should be part of virtualenv", "group_id": 373, "id": 326475}, {"user_id": 560, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874703.609817, "message": "He only annoying thing about virtualenvwrapper is that pip doesn't pull down the shell virtualenvwrapper.sh", "group_id": 373, "id": 326489}, {"user_id": 20611, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874870.4857409, "message": "@zeeg what if we only use pip and not virtualenv?", "group_id": 373, "id": 326548}, {"user_id": 7563, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874884.801626, "message": "@j2d2 I believe under ~/.local/bin", "group_id": 373, "id": 326552}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299875169.740556, "message": "@jezdez I agree complete. I hate eggs", "group_id": 373, "id": 326652}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874806.130446, "message": "brett cannon and larry hastings at the mic. yay", "group_id": 373, "id": 326519}, {"user_id": 6431, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874816.1273651, "message": "did he just say python is not a consenting adult when it comes to virtualenv?", "group_id": 373, "id": 326527}, {"user_id": 213, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874995.8741231, "message": "@zeeg What do you mean? pip uninstall <package>", "group_id": 373, "id": 326591}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299874997.2510321, "message": "@brainsik does that exist? swear I tried that and it didnt exist :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 326593}, {"user_id": 14874, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299875025.697484, "message": "@zeeg Indeed it's there. Maybe time to upgrade?", "group_id": 373, "id": 326609}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299875051.423465, "message": "no fair asking Ian what is in his brain during an introspection!", "group_id": 373, "id": 326620}, {"user_id": 18972, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299875154.9053061, "user_id": 18843}], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299875135.345094, "message": "heh yeah i've been avoiding eggs before it was cool", "group_id": 373, "id": 326643}, {"user_id": 19652, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299875210.7308531, "message": "@zeeg pip freeze may convince you to drop the project package", "group_id": 373, "id": 326665}, {"user_id": 7563, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299875085.9047921, "user_id": 1127}], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299875070.391624, "message": "@zeeg pip uninstall {PKGNAME} UNLESS... are you on Ubuntu/Debian? https://bitbucket.org/ianb/pip/issue/104/pip-uninstall-on-ubuntu-linux", "group_id": 373, "id": 326624}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299875106.6386809, "message": "@elpargo I suppose I just prefer the package model. python setup.py develop in local, production, staging -- keep it sane/simple (even though we dont :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 326628}, {"user_id": 213, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299875144.2087541, "message": "@zeeg that's BS, eggs are stupid dist format", "group_id": 373, "id": 326644}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299875188.0297389, "message": "@elpargo thats what we do as well, but its a bit more verbose/complicated (+ it doesnt place your project on sys.path)", "group_id": 373, "id": 326657}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299878050.2496741, "message": "@gthank \"like a virtualenv\" was supposed to be a reference to \"like a boss.\" glad some people caught it.", "group_id": 373, "id": 327123}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299880517.799588, "user_id": 1243}], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299878149.6895299, "message": "@carljm a+ talk", "group_id": 373, "id": 327146}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299878153.629818, "message": "@wolever The virtualenv environment variable only exists if you use bin/activate, not if you just use the virtualenv's python binary directly. So it's not reliable.", "group_id": 373, "id": 327148}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299878164.6615019, "message": "Thanks @zeeg and all, very glad you enjoyed it.", "group_id": 373, "id": 327150}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299878686.8844769, "user_id": 1}], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299878476.0573709, "message": "Oh man, typographical mistake in front of @adrianh. I'm so embarrassed. *goes to fix his slides*", "group_id": 373, "id": 327216}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299879567.5612969, "user_id": 20196}], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299878776.2937541, "message": "https://github.com/carljm/pipvirtualenv-preso/commit/c7f7347a604c4b5e7c33e53ec0092d608dc56427", "group_id": 373, "id": 327299}, {"user_id": 19652, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299879633.9156749, "message": "Eggs rule /me trolls off", "group_id": 373, "id": 327530}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299880565.5729401, "message": "@gthank cool, thanks!", "group_id": 373, "id": 327733}, {"user_id": 1243, "stars": [], "topic_id": 12430, "date_created": 1299880526.18468, "message": "@carljm Best talk I was at so far", "group_id": 373, "id": 327715}]