convore.json/groups/pycon-2011/should-convore-be-the-recommended-real-time-pycon-2011-discussion-boardchanneletc/messages.json

[{"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297282004.1615191, "message": "err. bureaucracy, that was.", "group_id": 373, "id": 54257}, {"user_id": 177, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297281560.9353011, "message": "+1", "group_id": 373, "id": 54086}, {"user_id": 927, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297281826.0551591, "message": "+!", "group_id": 373, "id": 54189}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297281958.0578821, "message": "+1", "group_id": 373, "id": 54236}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297281994.0537441, "message": "Though I'll have no part in bringing that before the bureaucratic", "group_id": 373, "id": 54252}, {"user_id": 1387, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297281502.3417599, "message": "Yes!", "group_id": 373, "id": 54059}, {"user_id": 1152, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297282266.048481, "message": "@justinlilly What bureaucracy? I've already started the discussion with Van :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 54364}, {"user_id": 1886, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297284126.9810669, "message": "+1", "group_id": 373, "id": 55389}, {"user_id": 1930, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297284222.9546919, "message": "Shall I start a separate (short lived) group for onsite volunteering?   Listen for what's needed / where - right when it's needed", "group_id": 373, "id": 55457}, {"user_id": 1930, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297284507.9734499, "message": "Never mind - I think topics will do it:   \"Onsite Volunteers Needed...\"", "group_id": 373, "id": 55695}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297282367.261447, "message": "*stops making bad jokes and continues hunting for flaky test solutions*", "group_id": 373, "id": 54419}, {"user_id": 1398, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297283483.3225219, "message": "+1", "group_id": 373, "id": 54989}, {"user_id": 1376, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297284101.585897, "message": "+1", "group_id": 373, "id": 55362}, {"user_id": 1930, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297284150.9189, "message": "+1", "group_id": 373, "id": 55395}, {"user_id": 844, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297284997.683197, "message": "sure +1", "group_id": 373, "id": 55964}, {"user_id": 2313, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297285146.0241301, "message": "+1", "group_id": 373, "id": 56046}, {"user_id": 1930, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297285587.4356649, "message": "Well - by convention / agreement of the \"volunteer coordinator\" (me!), I've posted to watch this group for \"volunteer\" topics to help w/ onsite volunteering.", "group_id": 373, "id": 56378}, {"user_id": 1264, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297286837.9523809, "message": "+1", "group_id": 373, "id": 57043}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297293682.84901, "message": "@holdenweb some semblance of organization :)  they're complementary IMO", "group_id": 373, "id": 59976}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297292834.6547849, "message": "Yes, it's likely we won't do the realtime streamer this year, in defference to convore", "group_id": 373, "id": 59762}, {"user_id": 3354, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297293651.180783, "message": "OK, enlighten me as to why I'd prefer Convore over Twitter, please.", "group_id": 373, "id": 59962}, {"user_id": 3354, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297293713.6418791, "message": "Especially since when I tried to comment the system threw me into the \"register your account\" sequence and then proceeded to forget about my post, which I had to re-type.", "group_id": 373, "id": 59984}, {"user_id": 2863, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297293757.8673279, "message": "@holdenweb For PyCon, it would be the concept of having topics instead of just a feed of tweets that are not necessarily connected. Also knowing that something is unread and not going to simply stream past w/o you knowing is a perk.", "group_id": 373, "id": 59995}, {"user_id": 222, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297300251.1758969, "message": "I prefer this over twitter because I think it's annoying when my twitter feed is full of conference junk... this is segregated by the topics I'm following, not people.", "group_id": 373, "id": 62102}, {"user_id": 207, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297300035.203027, "message": "though the trouble with the unread count is that it's an aggregate of *all* the groups you're in, and i haven't found any way to narrow it down", "group_id": 373, "id": 62057}, {"user_id": 3354, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297314295.5730009, "message": "Right, I think I am starting to see the point as I read more about the the service. And, of course, a nice demonstration of cool Python stuff, so definitely appropriate and supportive from that point of view.", "group_id": 373, "id": 65094}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297314442.739121, "message": "@Gulopine Hover mouse over the \"Groups\" menu/button at page top, you'll see a group *and* topic breakdown with independent unread counts. Seems reasonably useful thus far.", "group_id": 373, "id": 65126}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297314525.9629951, "message": "And I am +0 re: topic. Still have to figure out how this thing works. Like: more organized than Twitter. Dislike: adds another \"thing\" I have to constantly check on top of Twitter + IRC; a bit slow to navigate (though see beginning of comment...)", "group_id": 373, "id": 65139}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297314575.3398371, "message": "If all Pycon attendees could be relied upon to use this instead of Twitter (unlikely, people being people) I'd be more +1 on it.", "group_id": 373, "id": 65152}, {"user_id": 3354, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297314761.8410621, "user_id": 1376}, {"date_created": 1297322500.558506, "user_id": 1930}, {"date_created": 1297335074.8534231, "user_id": 222}, {"date_created": 1297341773.206857, "user_id": 3456}, {"date_created": 1298735503.362273, "user_id": 2}], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297314713.69313, "message": "There should definitely be a dollar fine for letting your cowbell sound in any conference session.", "group_id": 373, "id": 65187}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297316773.571254, "message": "-1 It's too much like an irc chat room", "group_id": 373, "id": 65767}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297317550.7972989, "message": "@zeeg I sorta share that sentiment, but am giving it the benefit of the doubt because A) it can (and will) be upgraded to have new sitewide features (IRC can't be nearly that agile) and B) ease of access (no irc client requirement, either for people who aren't on/can't grok it, or for those who simply don't have their client handy)", "group_id": 373, "id": 65989}, {"user_id": 4156, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297317564.580291, "message": "I also post oversized comments on Convore.", "group_id": 373, "id": 65994}, {"user_id": 3494, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297317757.2725561, "message": "+1 if there's a way to sort by other than datetime by pycon, otherwise -0.  The current chronological ordering makes keeping up and parsing an active topic more time consuming than I'd like.", "group_id": 373, "id": 66036}, {"user_id": 2024, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297343694.3646441, "message": "+1 I hate Twitter for any sort of structured conversation. If it's not Convore, I'd rather it be IRC than Twitter.", "group_id": 373, "id": 69073}, {"user_id": 1760, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297347507.255779, "message": "@jessenoller I wonder if we could prevail upon the creators to auto-populate some topics for us. Have they published an API, yet?", "group_id": 373, "id": 69605}, {"user_id": 1152, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297346815.0895679, "message": "For me, it has the benefits of a mailing list, without the things of IRC I hate (in theory) and you can have a group, with sub topics which means conversation segregation is much better. Twitter is just a fire hose.", "group_id": 373, "id": 69514}, {"user_id": 1152, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297346756.5275149, "message": "For all of you - the reason I'm suggesting it is that is *is* more structured than twitter, retains the conversations (unlike twitter) and is near-realtime.", "group_id": 373, "id": 69504}, {"user_id": 3456, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297347537.6803689, "message": "The beginnings of an API are shown here https://convore.com/api/", "group_id": 373, "id": 69609}, {"user_id": 222, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297348830.376024, "message": "@dz how else would you sort a conversation? lexically?", "group_id": 373, "id": 69879}, {"user_id": 5639, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297349870.2978971, "message": "+1 for supporting entrePyneurs ;-)", "group_id": 373, "id": 70138}, {"user_id": 603, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297349273.9141049, "message": "i think for discussion of each talk, this would be a great tool to use. The problem with twitter is one where if I'm not following someone, I miss out on what they might be contributing to a \"conversation\". If each talk has it's own group, that also cuts down on the noise factor.", "group_id": 373, "id": 69985}, {"user_id": 1152, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297356095.480495, "message": "There is an API, and with help, we could pre-populate topics for all the talks, keynotes, summits, etc.", "group_id": 373, "id": 71141}, {"user_id": 1736, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297359621.0017331, "message": "If we are going to auto-create topics like that Convore would have to support selective subscriptions within a group, otherwise my unread count would be off the charts at all times.", "group_id": 373, "id": 71825}, {"user_id": 207, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297378134.762435, "message": "@coderanger mine already is :(", "group_id": 373, "id": 75599}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297382963.491586, "message": "And the Convore developers are also open to other suggestions too :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 76377}, {"user_id": 207, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297382978.5717471, "message": "i wouldn't think write when it starts would be good", "group_id": 373, "id": 76378}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297382991.2818961, "message": "@Gulopine Ok, maybe 5 mins before or something.", "group_id": 373, "id": 76382}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297383028.5143759, "message": "The nice thing about that, too, is that you don't have competing discussions about talks you're not in.  If you want to hop over to that topic to see what you might be missing, you can, but you don't need to if you don't want to.", "group_id": 373, "id": 76389}, {"user_id": 207, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297383077.9361391, "message": "hrm, might be interesting to set up a bot that people can address directly and have it go to a big screen during q and a", "group_id": 373, "id": 76397}, {"user_id": 207, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297383095.5652161, "message": "not sure how well that would really work, though", "group_id": 373, "id": 76400}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297382909.525594, "message": "I think it'd be reasonable for someone to write a bot that would create a topic for each talk right when it starts.", "group_id": 373, "id": 76363}, {"user_id": 3354, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297384221.5551839, "message": "You could almost certainly get a feed of the talks from Eldarion: they have to provide one for the AV team anyway ...", "group_id": 373, "id": 76545}, {"user_id": 207, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297382995.4170899, "message": "i'd want to get in there a bit early to discuss what we expect, etc", "group_id": 373, "id": 76383}, {"user_id": 207, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297382997.535311, "message": "but yeah", "group_id": 373, "id": 76384}, {"user_id": 5639, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297384554.6563871, "message": "It'd be kind of nice if you could get an email when a new topic is created in a group (like we get now), but also choose whether or not we want to 'follow' that topic. It would help keep unread counts under control. It would also make that count more meaningful, because if we see *controlled* unread counts, it means we actually are missing things we care about.", "group_id": 373, "id": 76582}, {"user_id": 6487, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297384495.3744371, "message": "+1", "group_id": 373, "id": 76580}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297385882.292484, "message": "@holdenweb once the schedule is up I wrote the view for carl for DJangoCon so we'll have a feed as well", "group_id": 373, "id": 76752}, {"user_id": 3494, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297395450.8001361, "message": "And I got my terminology confused.  That should be \"topic listing in groups\"", "group_id": 373, "id": 78293}, {"user_id": 3494, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297395393.4409039, "message": "@bob hackernews and reddit both have other types of sort. in large threads with a lot of responses, I typically sort by hotness or best.  the thread listing in topics would be a lot more useful to me if I could sort by popularity of thread vs when it was last updated.", "group_id": 373, "id": 78280}, {"user_id": 6439, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297455224.2421191, "user_id": 1}], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297455063.972894, "message": "+1", "group_id": 373, "id": 82831}, {"user_id": 8391, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1297603585.103564, "message": "I think that'd be awesome.", "group_id": 373, "id": 90722}, {"user_id": 5942, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1298734095.427953, "message": "convore is cool, though the font size is little bit small for me.", "group_id": 373, "id": 214430}, {"user_id": 15977, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1298732721.327292, "message": "I don't think you'll *stop* people using twitter or irc :-)", "group_id": 373, "id": 214399}, {"user_id": 1152, "stars": [{"date_created": 1298743546.6983991, "user_id": 1}], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1298732960.4780741, "message": "@voidspace I hadn't planned on it. But I can encourage convore use.", "group_id": 373, "id": 214407}, {"user_id": 2024, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1298734128.6970439, "message": "@sunqiang good thing you can adjust that in your browser.", "group_id": 373, "id": 214433}, {"user_id": 5942, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1298734521.494432, "message": "@joshourisman , when I increase the font size, it will clutters up the page. some text is overlapping.", "group_id": 373, "id": 214441}, {"user_id": 2024, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1298747332.1942241, "message": "@sunqiang weird, I'm not having that problem. In Chrome, anyway. What browser?", "group_id": 373, "id": 215270}, {"user_id": 1930, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1298746187.6147211, "message": "@voidspace - the point isn't to stop, rather to offer up an alternative.  If the topic organization is useful, people will use it.  If they do, and it's because it offers something new, something easier, something better - then it has been a service.  If not, it will provide (hopefully) useful feedback to a startup.   Win-win, eh? ;-)", "group_id": 373, "id": 215238}, {"user_id": 5942, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1298762954.832094, "message": "@joshourisman It's firefox(3.6.13). now I'm try Chrome, it looks better, thanks.", "group_id": 373, "id": 215973}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1298834955.1590519, "message": "it can't be emulated", "group_id": 373, "id": 219856}, {"user_id": 240, "stars": [{"date_created": 1298836138.497884, "user_id": 2}, {"date_created": 1298841195.9880459, "user_id": 1}], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1298834909.046391, "message": "If we use convore can we be absolutely certain we can emulate Ian Bicking's epic IRC chat log from 2009?", "group_id": 373, "id": 219834}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [{"date_created": 1298836140.850436, "user_id": 2}], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1298834959.5800109, "message": "it was a once in a lifetime experience", "group_id": 373, "id": 219857}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1298841211.1886511, "message": "@jessenoller Seriously you got shit for that? :(", "group_id": 373, "id": 220816}, {"user_id": 1152, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1298841848.7830019, "message": "@ericflo Yes.", "group_id": 373, "id": 220965}, {"user_id": 1152, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1298840808.5583141, "message": "@jaybaird No. Because of the amount of shit I got about that Epic IRC log.", "group_id": 373, "id": 220737}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1298841857.877022, "message": "sigh.", "group_id": 373, "id": 220967}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1298844871.2957621, "message": "... who from?", "group_id": 373, "id": 221591}, {"user_id": 1152, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1298849180.2853329, "message": "@alex You know full well I won't share. It would be irresponsible of me to do so, just as it would be irresponsible of me to divulge other complaints.", "group_id": 373, "id": 222366}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [{"date_created": 1298850588.105818, "user_id": 1}], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1298849231.10443, "message": "@jessenoller I do, and you know I'm physically incapable of not being some combination of incredulous and curious :)", "group_id": 373, "id": 222378}, {"user_id": 1736, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1298852129.454299, "message": "@alex The tone of the talk was a big shock I think, especially for people that haven't interacted with Ian personally and know his own personal brand of whimsy.", "group_id": 373, "id": 222919}, {"user_id": 1152, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1298854837.501137, "message": "Anything involving a live forum will devolve into poop jokes, sex jokes, or insults about various family members and ascii renderings of genitalia. I can't discourage speakers from doing \"live forum\" things more.", "group_id": 373, "id": 223069}, {"user_id": 214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1298854063.432416, "message": "Ian's talk from 2009 was great, but the IRC log was stupid. It was full of people paying zero attention to the talk and making, basically, poop jokes, or the rough equivalent. (I didn't complain about it, but I did tell him not to do it the next year.)", "group_id": 373, "id": 223030}, {"user_id": 1152, "stars": [{"date_created": 1298855519.603864, "user_id": 214}], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1298854880.5229189, "message": "Live forums as backchannels/discussions? Fine. Inside of a talk? No. The second worst thing is the live programming example, which always goes wrong.", "group_id": 373, "id": 223072}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1298855090.1341691, "message": "I'll say it was an interesting experiment", "group_id": 373, "id": 223085}, {"user_id": 14957, "stars": [], "topic_id": 2241, "date_created": 1298871749.0847609, "message": "@jessenoller Actually worst thing is Live Forum/Feed AS talk.", "group_id": 373, "id": 223700}]