convore.json/groups/python-deployment-and-hosting/what-do-we-call-the-new-heroku-like-platforms-for-python/messages.json

[{"user_id": 1736, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35426, "date_created": 1305509909.1745009, "message": "The usual name is platform as a service, or PaaS.", "group_id": 5283, "id": 1065230}, {"user_id": 31790, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35426, "date_created": 1305509598.684238, "message": "DjangoZoom, ep.io, Gondor.io, etc. Is there a name for the category? Python Cloud Platforms? Python Cloud Hosting?", "group_id": 5283, "id": 1065195}, {"user_id": 31790, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35426, "date_created": 1305510025.841526, "message": "So PPaaS? ;-)", "group_id": 5283, "id": 1065242}, {"user_id": 1736, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35426, "date_created": 1305518959.750931, "message": "The specifics are hard to nail down. Some host any WSGI app, some only do Django, GAE is PaaS but only for its own platform really.", "group_id": 5283, "id": 1066805}, {"user_id": 31790, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35426, "date_created": 1305526302.3068171, "message": "ep.io and gondor.io both use the term 'hosting', as in 'smart python hosting', and 'effortless production Django hosting', respectively.", "group_id": 5283, "id": 1067975}, {"user_id": 31790, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35426, "date_created": 1305526068.222394, "message": "Well, clearly different services will have their own unique value-added features. I'm not too concerned over the ways they differ, I'm after what do we call the category they are all more-or-less in.", "group_id": 5283, "id": 1067956}, {"user_id": 31790, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35426, "date_created": 1305526799.30268, "message": "So do 30loops with 'python hosting platform', DjangoZoom is a 'deployment and cloud hosting provider'.", "group_id": 5283, "id": 1068055}, {"user_id": 31790, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35426, "date_created": 1305526095.27178, "message": "Heroku calls itself a \"cloud application platform for Ruby\".", "group_id": 5283, "id": 1067959}, {"user_id": 31790, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35426, "date_created": 1305527497.021589, "message": "Pydra says it is a 'cloud platform for Python web applications', stable.io say it is 'Badass Python web hosting', while Stackato is an 'enterprise cloud platform for Python'", "group_id": 5283, "id": 1068121}, {"user_id": 8740, "stars": [{"date_created": 1305602434.0138581, "user_id": 8391}], "topic_id": 35426, "date_created": 1305555894.902869, "message": "My best attempt at a collective noun would be \"specialised Python hosting\"", "group_id": 5283, "id": 1071317}, {"user_id": 8740, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35426, "date_created": 1305555869.6253669, "message": "I personally hate the term \"PaaS\" almost as much as I hate the term \"Cloud\"", "group_id": 5283, "id": 1071311}, {"user_id": 31790, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35426, "date_created": 1305555642.8285141, "message": "So, what words are common to all or most of these? Not counting Heroku, 'Python' - 4 times, 'Cloud' - three times, 'Hosting' - 5 times, 'Platform' - three times. None uses the term 'PaaS' to describe themselves.", "group_id": 5283, "id": 1071242}, {"user_id": 31790, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35426, "date_created": 1305556128.572607, "message": "Hmm. Here is a different way to ask the question that may be more beneficial: What phrase would I Google if I was expecting to see these services as results?", "group_id": 5283, "id": 1071356}, {"user_id": 14679, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35426, "date_created": 1305567193.3181419, "message": "@webmaven, are you trying to find more? http://www.quora.com/What-is-the-Heroku-equivalent-for-Django-applications is a pretty thorough list (I see you've contributed to it). Platform-as-a-Service is probably the best category name.", "group_id": 5283, "id": 1072897}, {"user_id": 31790, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35426, "date_created": 1305568772.6146629, "message": "@shimon I'm not trying to find more, I'm trying to figure out how to enable discovery. Searching for 'Python PaaS' reveals Google App Engine, Activestate's Stackato, and RedHat's Openshift, but none of the rest of you. A search for 'Python platform as a service' brings up PiCloud, which is a very different offering.", "group_id": 5283, "id": 1073113}, {"user_id": 1736, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35426, "date_created": 1305567388.890666, "message": "\"managed hosting\" is also a valid label, but very overloaded already.", "group_id": 5283, "id": 1072932}, {"user_id": 31790, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35426, "date_created": 1305568826.2790821, "message": "Incidentally, I just ran across http://cloudroulette.me/ which I think is hilarious.", "group_id": 5283, "id": 1073120}, {"user_id": 31790, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35426, "date_created": 1305569009.6709321, "message": "BTW, note that  http://cloudroulette.me/ uses the term 'python cloud providers'.", "group_id": 5283, "id": 1073135}, {"user_id": 16589, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35426, "date_created": 1313923773.580229, "message": "I agree with \"cloud hosting\" or \"cloud providers\". Amazon EC2 isn't actually \"cloud\" hosting, it's just on-demand VPS's.", "group_id": 5283, "id": 1921824}, {"user_id": 20521, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35426, "date_created": 1314027955.75579, "message": "@coderanger i can run web2py in GAE or  Flask or any other framework.", "group_id": 5283, "id": 1930922}, {"user_id": 1736, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35426, "date_created": 1314169518.129288, "message": "@nekrox Can't tell if trolling ...", "group_id": 5283, "id": 1947354}, {"user_id": 38714, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35426, "date_created": 1324177177.925679, "message": "@coderanger the web2py community sets its own standards", "group_id": 5283, "id": 2744070}, {"user_id": 38714, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35426, "date_created": 1324177184.614459, "message": "@coderanger the web2py community sets its own standards", "group_id": 5283, "id": 2744071}, {"user_id": 38714, "stars": [], "topic_id": 35426, "date_created": 1324177187.2378221, "message": "@coderanger the web2py community sets its own standards", "group_id": 5283, "id": 2744072}]