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[{"user_id": 8291, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34986, "date_created": 1305218996.8104229, "message": "I'm doing a MSc. (Software Egineering) in a country where the most common platforms for the Web are Java, .Net and (still considered hip) PHP. The backend stuff, as far as I know is done mainly with C/C++/C#. I really like Python ecosystem, got quite used to it. I was wondering, what can I do to make Python my career (be it the Web or backend)?", "group_id": 292, "id": 1026294}, {"user_id": 31561, "stars": [{"date_created": 1305269208.0749991, "user_id": 12817}, {"date_created": 1305405178.1349461, "user_id": 927}], "topic_id": 34986, "date_created": 1305218929.0743289, "message": "In my humble opinion making any single tool, even one as awesome as python, your career is a bad move.", "group_id": 292, "id": 1026288}, {"user_id": 8291, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34986, "date_created": 1305219039.955106, "message": "Also, sorry for posting here, but it's the most active Python group.", "group_id": 292, "id": 1026306}, {"user_id": 831, "stars": [{"date_created": 1305221712.0796511, "user_id": 2376}, {"date_created": 1305224290.4485021, "user_id": 8291}], "topic_id": 34986, "date_created": 1305220144.5846641, "message": "I think your question should be less \"how can I make specific technology X my career\" and more \"how can I chart a career that follows my passions rather than the popular sheepskins\".  I have advice on that in my old article \"A custom-fit career in app development\" http://adtmag.com/articles/2003/05/31/perspective-on-xml-a-customfit-career-in-app-development.aspx", "group_id": 292, "id": 1026453}, {"user_id": 8291, "stars": [{"date_created": 1305330813.9832499, "user_id": 22794}], "topic_id": 34986, "date_created": 1305219123.519012, "message": "@bensonk, yes I am aware of this. I'm just looking for some tips. Still, gonna remember this one :)", "group_id": 292, "id": 1026319}, {"user_id": 31561, "stars": [{"date_created": 1305224296.860599, "user_id": 8291}, {"date_created": 1305241102.4911621, "user_id": 275}], "topic_id": 34986, "date_created": 1305219715.7595811, "message": "There are a couple of places python is big right now. I'd recommend getting proficient at django, and at general data munging / analysis. If you have both of those skills, you'll be quite likely to find python work.", "group_id": 292, "id": 1026419}, {"user_id": 8291, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34986, "date_created": 1305220761.2165511, "message": "@uche, this was actually my line of thinking. Thanks for the link.", "group_id": 292, "id": 1026552}, {"user_id": 2376, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34986, "date_created": 1305222549.281141, "message": "@odiroot the scenario is just the same in India! I'll complete my B.Tech (Computer Science & Engineering) next month and surprisingly no one at my college had heard of Python when I started using it a couple of years ago. Even though I'm still learning, but I love it already, enough to want to make it my career choice. Early this year, my proposal to build my major project using Python was turned down because the invigilators would have not heard about it. It was suggested that I stick to Java or .Net.. or PHP at max, if I was dead bent on not using either of them.\n\n@uche thanks for sharing the link.", "group_id": 292, "id": 1026845}, {"user_id": 1736, "stars": [{"date_created": 1305224286.8475561, "user_id": 8291}, {"date_created": 1305266296.9160881, "user_id": 18845}, {"date_created": 1305266637.083813, "user_id": 8391}, {"date_created": 1305305374.249233, "user_id": 13912}, {"date_created": 1305330870.676455, "user_id": 22794}, {"date_created": 1306151236.297909, "user_id": 5778}], "topic_id": 34986, "date_created": 1305223882.375561, "message": "How to make Python your career. 1) Write awesome Python code. 2) Continue writing awesome code. 3) Profit.", "group_id": 292, "id": 1027119}, {"user_id": 2604, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34986, "date_created": 1305240258.180155, "message": "hi", "group_id": 292, "id": 1031055}, {"user_id": 2604, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34986, "date_created": 1305240266.017164, "message": "whats up guys?", "group_id": 292, "id": 1031056}, {"user_id": 31561, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34986, "date_created": 1305245738.0511141, "message": "@jeffrey Spot on.", "group_id": 292, "id": 1031537}, {"user_id": 16551, "stars": [{"date_created": 1305256981.8444431, "user_id": 1}, {"date_created": 1305260160.7339079, "user_id": 31883}, {"date_created": 1305322109.845304, "user_id": 13806}, {"date_created": 1305397306.1756229, "user_id": 13853}, {"date_created": 1305448897.025557, "user_id": 2376}, {"date_created": 1306776664.7750649, "user_id": 32426}], "topic_id": 34986, "date_created": 1305256351.849112, "message": "@jeffrey Someone should invent a programming language called 'Awesome'. Then you could saw you are an Awesome programmer'.", "group_id": 292, "id": 1033911}, {"user_id": 31715, "stars": [{"date_created": 1305263458.5920539, "user_id": 6671}], "topic_id": 34986, "date_created": 1305263332.198611, "message": "Get involved in open source projects and begin to develop a track record for good code. At your stage in your career though I would put a higher priority on your environment than any language. Find really smart programmers and watch how they handle problems. If those people are in Java, then be a Java programmer. This is not a time to find a spot to be comfortable, it's to be challenged.", "group_id": 292, "id": 1035628}, {"user_id": 31715, "stars": [{"date_created": 1305274168.9005899, "user_id": 5734}, {"date_created": 1305277928.2976611, "user_id": 8291}], "topic_id": 34986, "date_created": 1305264285.707859, "message": "To get to your question in the near term though, Keep an open mind and be flexible. I got my current job by talking to someone who was looking for a PHP person, but was able convince them that Python was a better solution by pointing to both my own projects and open source projects and showing them a track record of delivering solutions.", "group_id": 292, "id": 1035916}, {"user_id": 21184, "stars": [{"date_created": 1305269277.546092, "user_id": 12817}, {"date_created": 1305363932.7205541, "user_id": 2376}], "topic_id": 34986, "date_created": 1305266098.1956561, "message": "Along the Lines of @zenWeasel and @jeffrey I can highly recommend the book \"Apprenticeship Patterns\" from O'Reilly. Helps you on the sometimes bumpy road to being a programmer instead of <x> programmer", "group_id": 292, "id": 1036323}, {"user_id": 2604, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34986, "date_created": 1305327596.5052879, "message": "cool", "group_id": 292, "id": 1048428}, {"user_id": 31715, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34986, "date_created": 1305354469.1095819, "message": "@nureineide Nice tip on the book. Going to pick that up.", "group_id": 292, "id": 1050641}, {"user_id": 6704, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34986, "date_created": 1305379076.493011, "message": "Deciding to be an \u201cX\u201d programmer can be very rewarding if you find a technology that really fits your brain and, maybe even more important, your aesthetics \u2014 for many reasons it is important when writing code to write beautiful code (where possible), and it is easier to do that in a language that you yourself find beautiful.", "group_id": 292, "id": 1052291}, {"user_id": 6704, "stars": [{"date_created": 1305391694.847924, "user_id": 8291}, {"date_created": 1305399721.0844679, "user_id": 2588}, {"date_created": 1305405188.8241551, "user_id": 927}, {"date_created": 1305456934.976984, "user_id": 257}, {"date_created": 1306151379.8231001, "user_id": 5778}], "topic_id": 34986, "date_created": 1305379204.2965319, "message": "So, how do you do it?  For me, giving back to the community is the key.  Write blog posts about things you learn; give talks at your local Python meetup; offer talks at the regional or international level if you wind up getting good at it.  Give advice to everyone you meet to make them better Python programmers.  Contribute to open-source projects.  In my experience, when entrepreneurs go looking for talent, they often start by dropping by a local Python meetup and trying to determine who knows what they are talking about.", "group_id": 292, "id": 1052311}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34986, "date_created": 1305421401.0639939, "message": "While I can almost agree with the \"Don't become an X programmer\" sentiment, I have to say that doing so has served me well, as long as you don't keep a particular X for very long. X used to be PHP for me, then it was python, now its Java, in my spare time, X is go. In the aggregate, you could call me a \"programmer\", but its something I at least worked up to.", "group_id": 292, "id": 1056788}, {"user_id": 31883, "stars": [{"date_created": 1306151342.0675941, "user_id": 5778}], "topic_id": 34986, "date_created": 1305422607.2542169, "message": "@justinlilly programming is a skill/art/craft/whatever that is agnostic of language, but must be learned through concrete languages", "group_id": 292, "id": 1056869}, {"user_id": 31883, "stars": [], "topic_id": 34986, "date_created": 1305422654.29724, "message": "even if those concrete languages are completely made-up, as knuth does for taocp", "group_id": 292, "id": 1056872}]