convore.json/groups/python/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things-httptco44hacq7/messages.json

[{"user_id": 1, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302044977.319464, "user_id": 1736}, {"date_created": 1302076207.6496611, "user_id": 10411}, {"date_created": 1302123171.775631, "user_id": 13893}], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302044941.0690939, "message": "https://convore.com/tools/ :)", "group_id": 292, "id": 549809}, {"user_id": 1736, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302045026.2705369, "user_id": 1}], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302044989.165417, "message": "Convore win, Python lose.", "group_id": 292, "id": 549820}, {"user_id": 1736, "stars": [], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302045195.4351439, "message": "Now paging at @pydanny to Python Packages, please pick up the white courtesy phone", "group_id": 292, "id": 549885}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302045039.7043691, "message": "Yeah the whole ratings thing is just silly IMO", "group_id": 292, "id": 549835}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302044823.021313, "message": "https://twitter.com/jessenoller/status/55386342166757376", "group_id": 292, "id": 549764}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302044833.925, "message": "https://twitter.com/zainy/status/55389430202109952", "group_id": 292, "id": 549770}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302044834.3885989, "message": "https://twitter.com/jessenoller/status/55394841961578496", "group_id": 292, "id": 549771}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302044834.8540449, "message": "https://twitter.com/zainy/status/55394991442378752", "group_id": 292, "id": 549772}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302044835.4305301, "message": "https://twitter.com/jessenoller/status/55395149408239617", "group_id": 292, "id": 549774}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302044836.1253941, "message": "https://twitter.com/zainy/status/55395640129224704", "group_id": 292, "id": 549775}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302044837.7342629, "message": "https://twitter.com/jessenoller/status/55395783771570176", "group_id": 292, "id": 549776}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302044838.1996, "message": "https://twitter.com/ericflo/status/55396184453414912", "group_id": 292, "id": 549778}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302044838.672502, "message": "https://twitter.com/zainy/status/55398790378696704", "group_id": 292, "id": 549779}, {"user_id": 886, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302050468.7290061, "user_id": 1736}], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302049723.4836459, "message": "You know, I think the only 5-star rating system I've found useful *is* the one on Amazon. And that's only because the corpus and user-base are big enough to warrant the recommendations feature. When PyPI grows that... I'll probably stop using it entirely.", "group_id": 292, "id": 551132}, {"user_id": 25106, "stars": [], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302056651.5779581, "message": "I feel similarly frustrated with the ratings on djangosnippets. I think that's the main reason I no longer bother contributing to that site. I take time out of my day to prpvide a bite-sized piece of documented code that solves a useful problem (for me, anyway). My reward is to be downvoted to -3 with no explanation. Why bother?", "group_id": 292, "id": 553496}, {"user_id": 25106, "stars": [], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302056442.7988391, "message": "I'm sure a lot of users did ask for a ratings system once upon a time. Ratings were a fad (probably instigated by Amazon), and for awhile people were putting them everywhere. The debate wasn't whether to have one or not; it was four stars vs. five. I'm now at this very moment trying to put together a migration path for removal of a star rating system from the news site I maintain. Few people use it. The authors hate it. Hit count has proven to be a more useful statistic.", "group_id": 292, "id": 553384}, {"user_id": 25106, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302057765.7065639, "user_id": 1}, {"date_created": 1302059302.893326, "user_id": 1736}], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302056761.1532569, "message": "Any way you slice it, the authors win on this one. They're providing the content. Disrespect them and they'll build an alternative index. They're programmers; they know how.", "group_id": 292, "id": 553563}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302057813.183821, "message": "Ha! @zain wrote back http://pypi.python.org/pypi/jogging/0.2.2", "group_id": 292, "id": 553871}, {"user_id": 3617, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302541844.7464869, "user_id": 15343}], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302063031.8362329, "message": "Ratings are generally silly. +1 or -1 is really all the rating needed for most purposes.", "group_id": 292, "id": 554504}, {"user_id": 6543, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302070384.866044, "user_id": 1}, {"date_created": 1302541856.7513559, "user_id": 15343}], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302067060.9118271, "message": "i'm not gonna get into it on the catalog sig, but i think those ratings are useless.", "group_id": 292, "id": 555004}, {"user_id": 1398, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302071100.5471931, "user_id": 1736}, {"date_created": 1302134181.5727639, "user_id": 4375}], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302070484.882381, "message": "We are sprinting on #Packaginator this sunday so PyPI ratings can be made moot. Our goal is abject objectivity. Please join and help finish out critical code tasks so we can get Python Packages launched! WE NEED YOUR HELP!!!", "group_id": 292, "id": 555301}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302142578.3155921, "user_id": 205}], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302070429.262532, "message": "I think \"I'm not gonna get into it on the catalog sig\" is a generally useful idea about any subject at all.", "group_id": 292, "id": 555293}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302108021.6374919, "user_id": 141}, {"date_created": 1302345611.8006561, "user_id": 6671}, {"date_created": 1302509148.2848289, "user_id": 6836}], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302076274.8604491, "message": "@ericflo Aren't convore stars kind of like a binary rating system?  Aren't some star systems binary?", "group_id": 292, "id": 556151}, {"user_id": 257, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302110293.7497621, "user_id": 209}], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302087128.7416241, "message": "@scopatz: I think they're more like facebook likes, they're there so you don't have to reply with some standard (nice!) message", "group_id": 292, "id": 557671}, {"user_id": 4077, "stars": [], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302110212.2532561, "message": "@scopatz That's two in a row", "group_id": 292, "id": 561643}, {"user_id": 1736, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302110084.5234849, "user_id": 25106}, {"date_created": 1302116565.954514, "user_id": 141}, {"date_created": 1302126365.455972, "user_id": 3617}], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302109087.603446, "message": "The important distinction between a 0-5 system and an \"I like this\" one is that in the latter the lack of a vote doesn't indicate a lack of quality to most people, it is purely an additive system. I suggested this on the sig list at the start of the shitstorm, but it seems to have been overlooked.", "group_id": 292, "id": 561481}, {"user_id": 209, "stars": [], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302110381.521163, "message": "@ericflo In an unrelated note, in the `new topic` emails that comes across as just a big list of twitter status links, which Isn't nearly as useful as it is here, I wasn't even aware that you were pulling those in automatically", "group_id": 292, "id": 561670}, {"user_id": 10411, "stars": [], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302109828.3996201, "message": "@asksol Yup, I understand the distinction.  But still, I never pass up the opportunity for a stellar pun.", "group_id": 292, "id": 561600}, {"user_id": 25106, "stars": [], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302111220.1172371, "message": "@pydanny FYI, https://github.com/cartweelweb/packaginator is a 404 for me", "group_id": 292, "id": 561867}, {"user_id": 25106, "stars": [], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302111276.908237, "message": "You're missing an 'h'", "group_id": 292, "id": 561892}, {"user_id": 25106, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302111043.3415861, "user_id": 10411}, {"date_created": 1302244084.1370189, "user_id": 20196}], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302110276.489557, "message": "@scopatz You're an all-star punner!", "group_id": 292, "id": 561652}, {"user_id": 1398, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302113904.5019779, "user_id": 1}, {"date_created": 1302115764.2614319, "user_id": 1822}, {"date_created": 1302142636.971544, "user_id": 205}], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302113897.1959391, "message": "Thank you @jezdez. :) You make the world a better place", "group_id": 292, "id": 562517}, {"user_id": 1398, "stars": [], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302111162.571923, "message": "Help us fix the issue! http://pydanny.blogspot.com/2011/04/python-packages-sprint-on-sunday.html", "group_id": 292, "id": 561842}, {"user_id": 1398, "stars": [], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302113826.1648381, "message": "Hooray @jezdez! This is so exciting! You have API please?", "group_id": 292, "id": 562498}, {"user_id": 213, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302113529.1263919, "user_id": 1}, {"date_created": 1302120316.7434349, "user_id": 1152}], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302113470.1710999, "message": "you might be interested in a little project I just announced: Depot - Dedicated Python package hosting. http://www.depot.io/", "group_id": 292, "id": 562415}, {"user_id": 213, "stars": [], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302113851.056298, "message": "@pydanny Your wish was my command :)", "group_id": 292, "id": 562508}, {"user_id": 1398, "stars": [], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302113878.667424, "message": "@ramen - go to https://github.com/cartwheelweb/packaginator", "group_id": 292, "id": 562514}, {"user_id": 1398, "stars": [], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302113849.562274, "message": "@ramen - fixed", "group_id": 292, "id": 562507}, {"user_id": 25106, "stars": [], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302118804.9018469, "message": "@pydanny Thanks!", "group_id": 292, "id": 563757}, {"user_id": 28054, "stars": [], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302218641.382941, "message": "Agree with @ramen - as hit count is more valuable for that system, number of downloads is a better indicator of a package's relative merit on PyPi.", "group_id": 292, "id": 582261}, {"user_id": 3354, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302292690.3405111, "user_id": 26100}, {"date_created": 1302301224.286015, "user_id": 1822}, {"date_created": 1302311440.6317959, "user_id": 218}, {"date_created": 1302321178.9106121, "user_id": 8}, {"date_created": 1302322337.211936, "user_id": 9229}, {"date_created": 1302471015.7364621, "user_id": 1243}], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302292356.5792279, "message": "Just as a matter of interest, as far as I can tell Martin has now removed the poll from PyPI. It would have been really nice if just one of the people bitching about the topic had bothered to publicly think him for this change. Apologies in advance if that has happened, but I certainly haven't seen it.", "group_id": 292, "id": 595315}, {"user_id": 3354, "stars": [{"date_created": 1302292691.7832439, "user_id": 26100}, {"date_created": 1302311439.682518, "user_id": 218}, {"date_created": 1302322340.1915741, "user_id": 9229}, {"date_created": 1302471017.1073101, "user_id": 1243}], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302292357.5200601, "message": "This goes to motivation: it's very difficult to change things simply by saying \"this is wrong and should be fixed\". You have to look for any positive change and acknowledge the hell out of it.", "group_id": 292, "id": 595316}, {"user_id": 10454, "stars": [], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302389454.6523409, "message": "Ben Finney has. http://mail.python.org/pipermail/catalog-sig/2011-April/003637.html", "group_id": 292, "id": 606091}, {"user_id": 3354, "stars": [], "topic_id": 17496, "date_created": 1302529708.090625, "message": "Please excuse my typo: s/think/thank/.  And thanks, @RobertKern, for pointing that out.", "group_id": 292, "id": 623999}]