convore.json/groups/read-the-docs/building-projects-in-a-virtualenv/messages.json

[{"user_id": 205, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297892953.24387, "message": "otherwise we'll be adding a ton of work for every build", "group_id": 82, "id": 125008}, {"user_id": 205, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297892387.3735361, "message": "I really want it to be the next big feature, as it will solve a lot of problems", "group_id": 82, "id": 124874}, {"user_id": 927, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297892726.2453589, "message": "The other thing I'm not sure about is how you'd be able to do this reasonably securely", "group_id": 82, "id": 124956}, {"user_id": 927, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297893041.46402, "message": "Now to see if someone else comes up with the obvious flaw\u2026", "group_id": 82, "id": 125050}, {"user_id": 205, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297892403.9230599, "message": "Does anyone know good prior art for this? tox maybe? /cc @achda", "group_id": 82, "id": 124875}, {"user_id": 927, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297892513.4200721, "message": "No immediate advice from me other than that tox might be worth looking at", "group_id": 82, "id": 124901}, {"user_id": 927, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297892956.5826049, "message": "Yes", "group_id": 82, "id": 125010}, {"user_id": 927, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297892977.5101571, "message": "Maybe go with a convention like root/username/projectname", "group_id": 82, "id": 125015}, {"user_id": 205, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297893397.3070569, "message": "having the venv will make it a lot better", "group_id": 82, "id": 125202}, {"user_id": 205, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297892824.0160069, "message": "Hrm, yea", "group_id": 82, "id": 124980}, {"user_id": 205, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297892837.7897079, "message": "Just wondering if there was something that I could steal the bits from for all the directory management etc.", "group_id": 82, "id": 124985}, {"user_id": 927, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297893012.3142409, "message": "(doing a mv / rm pair to avoid races)", "group_id": 82, "id": 125039}, {"user_id": 205, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297892378.5183361, "message": "Think is going to be a scratchpad for implementing that", "group_id": 82, "id": 124871}, {"user_id": 205, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297892417.6071069, "message": "*@acdha ^", "group_id": 82, "id": 124877}, {"user_id": 927, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297892695.0898781, "message": "You'd want some sort of pypi cache to avoid server delays", "group_id": 82, "id": 124949}, {"user_id": 205, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297892991.376482, "message": "yea, we already have that, so it'd just be another dir inside there", "group_id": 82, "id": 125025}, {"user_id": 205, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297893015.261003, "message": "yea, that makes sense", "group_id": 82, "id": 125043}, {"user_id": 927, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297893485.198554, "message": "I don't think it makes sense to turn RTD into a distributed build / QA farm but I imagine it'd be eye-opening if you published a pep8 report ;)", "group_id": 82, "id": 125222}, {"user_id": 927, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297892531.136487, "message": "I've done this only in the context of custom RPM building scripts or CI runners", "group_id": 82, "id": 124903}, {"user_id": 927, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297892553.342114, "message": "Both of which are pretty obvious: virtualenv / setup.py install / test / rm virtualenv", "group_id": 82, "id": 124908}, {"user_id": 927, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297892838.571306, "message": "But that's at least not a different problem than the one you already have ;)", "group_id": 82, "id": 124986}, {"user_id": 927, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297893002.1080999, "message": "and then have a temp-reaper which looks for anything which hasn't been accessed in more than n hours", "group_id": 82, "id": 125031}, {"user_id": 927, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297892810.6773379, "message": "(which could be quite tricky since people like github, bitbucket, etc. installs)", "group_id": 82, "id": 124976}, {"user_id": 927, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297893330.8202209, "message": "The only other thing I'd suggest is making install failures more visible to users", "group_id": 82, "id": 125170}, {"user_id": 927, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297893362.6624529, "message": "simply because I think a fair number of people don't test their doc build scripts very portably", "group_id": 82, "id": 125187}, {"user_id": 927, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297892777.5330019, "message": "Seems like you'd need to worry about that anyway, though, so I guess it'd be things like running as an unprivileged user and blocking outbound network access except for pypi", "group_id": 82, "id": 124969}, {"user_id": 205, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297892861.3950729, "message": "thinking about not supporting pypi", "group_id": 82, "id": 124990}, {"user_id": 927, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297892915.673341, "message": "Not that I've used - I've just used a caveman approach where a script generates a temp directory and deletes it no matter what the code in between does", "group_id": 82, "id": 125001}, {"user_id": 205, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297893004.5191741, "message": "but it'd have to be root/user/project/version/venv", "group_id": 82, "id": 125032}, {"user_id": 205, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297892872.9697771, "message": "RTD is all based around VCS atm, so just tags/branches, so we don't need pypi at all", "group_id": 82, "id": 124992}, {"user_id": 205, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297892924.4830091, "message": "right", "group_id": 82, "id": 125003}, {"user_id": 205, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297892940.3213911, "message": "Thinking it would make more sense to persist the venv's, but they just start to pile up after a while", "group_id": 82, "id": 125006}, {"user_id": 927, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297893344.137949, "message": "although that could get tricky if you're trying to avoid leaking information to an attacker", "group_id": 82, "id": 125179}, {"user_id": 927, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297893312.1473989, "message": "That does seem pretty reasonable", "group_id": 82, "id": 125161}, {"user_id": 205, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297893381.4300649, "message": "Totally", "group_id": 82, "id": 125193}, {"user_id": 205, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297893390.0992589, "message": "been running into that a lot", "group_id": 82, "id": 125199}, {"user_id": 205, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297893403.8923481, "message": "because most people \"import <project>\" all willy nilly", "group_id": 82, "id": 125205}, {"user_id": 927, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6552, "date_created": 1297893451.5125051, "message": "Yeah - I've seen that a lot", "group_id": 82, "id": 125216}]