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[{"user_id": 2, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311966872.272182, "message": "has anyone here used SproutCore?", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750246}, {"user_id": 26037, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967028.505801, "message": "Never used SproutCore", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750263}, {"user_id": 38870, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311966882.9668219, "message": "I have", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750247}, {"user_id": 38985, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967938.359165, "message": "@johnbellone I know where you can get one. Good luck!", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750381}, {"user_id": 2, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311968072.37376, "message": "I've used handlebars and the context part was the toughest for me to *get*", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750394}, {"user_id": 38870, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311966897.630048, "message": "it's a little weird hearing Yehuda talk about something other than Rails", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750248}, {"user_id": 544, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967325.088249, "message": "I\u2019ve used Sproutcore 0.9 and 1.0, and didn\u2019t really like the approach they used. SC 2.x has a structural redesign of the approach that makes me interested in it again.", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750292}, {"user_id": 38964, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967887.845932, "message": "Ok, I'm starting to get the point of this talk at this conf.", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750378}, {"user_id": 544, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311968297.2382629, "message": "@leah I\u2019m thinking web *sites* will get more javascript-heavy and interactive; the direction of web apps has long been going that way! :)", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750437}, {"user_id": 38963, "stars": [{"date_created": 1311967993.873101, "user_id": 38870}], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967979.074708, "message": "@marcato15 Though I've enjoyed all the talks, this is the talk I was most excited about. So much of the web is being built in javascript now, I find almost every new javascript framework exciting.", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750386}, {"user_id": 38870, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311966914.4335439, "message": "older version", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750252}, {"user_id": 38870, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967362.4355471, "message": "@marcato15 I'm thinking of it more about future web app presentation layer building versus just about Spoutcore :)", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750295}, {"user_id": 38963, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311969568.724395, "message": "I have been searching for a good guide, and have been unable to track one down.", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750607}, {"user_id": 2, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311966901.2589209, "message": "@mkrisher the newer or older version?", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750249}, {"user_id": 39022, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967200.7440021, "message": "Awesome, I wouldn't want to give up jQuery.", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750280}, {"user_id": 38870, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967873.230978, "message": "damn, I forgot about leafychat", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750377}, {"user_id": 39022, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967955.9586489, "message": "Anyone got a recommendation for an IRC client for Windows? they all seem to suck.", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750384}, {"user_id": 38870, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311968323.457315, "message": "@mileszs it's cool, powerful, fairly easy to get started with, but has a different philosophy than sproutcore, I think they are trying to keep backbone small (file size wise)", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750443}, {"user_id": 38963, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311968359.028682, "message": "SproutCore.", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750448}, {"user_id": 38870, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311966962.975692, "message": "@leah we're using backbone at Harvest some, but I would like us to reevaluate sproutcore for comparison", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750258}, {"user_id": 38964, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967271.612432, "message": "Um, does anyone else feel like this topic is just a long ad for sprout core . Not seeing why this is part of the conf", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750289}, {"user_id": 2, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967439.3726311, "message": "obviously, convore is pretty js heavy", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750304}, {"user_id": 38950, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967589.8336589, "message": "@leah @mkrisher or BaseCamp.....or Google Wave or Plus.", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750322}, {"user_id": 38870, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967662.942775, "message": "@mileszs are you trying to say irc > Convore? :)", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750334}, {"user_id": 39022, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967139.9817441, "message": "So SproutCore is analogous/an alternative to jQuery or is it to be used in conjunction with jQuery? I noticed that Yehuda is also a jQuery core developer.", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750274}, {"user_id": 38870, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967172.222244, "message": "@alecgorge in conjunction with jQuery", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750276}, {"user_id": 2, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967416.8500409, "message": "@mkrisher agreed, I think the concepts are pretty important to the future of web apps... I'm thinking that web apps will be more javascript-heavy and interactive", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750303}, {"user_id": 2, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967527.3881421, "message": "@mkrisher thanks! it's one of the better use cases", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750318}, {"user_id": 38963, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967581.057591, "message": "I agree.", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750320}, {"user_id": 38870, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967630.4522741, "message": "@mileszs ha!", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750331}, {"user_id": 38950, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967677.6630809, "message": "The Convore iPad app needs some work though, at least on iOS 5 its slightly buggy.", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750336}, {"user_id": 2, "stars": [{"date_created": 1311968282.5593879, "user_id": 39003}], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967839.993892, "message": "you're not going to get me too riled up. I actually really like IRC", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750375}, {"user_id": 38985, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311968480.217674, "message": "@mileszs Parkour?", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750466}, {"user_id": 2, "stars": [{"date_created": 1311968976.3814559, "user_id": 544}, {"date_created": 1311973985.946908, "user_id": 38985}], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311968510.31249, "message": "http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gPEJqbgKSYI/TgB8sZQs6rI/AAAAAAAAGG4/gfeOnoCjYg8/s1600/Alladin+was+doing+parkour+before+it+was+cool.jpg", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750476}, {"user_id": 38870, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967471.4470279, "message": "@leah agreed, we are in the early days of client-side frameworks it seems", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750311}, {"user_id": 38963, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967615.6618831, "message": "Also, better than trying to get some of you to join the #indyrb channel on Freenode.", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750329}, {"user_id": 39022, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967753.344512, "message": "Convore is working really well from the web interface. I didn't even think to look for an app because this is working so well.", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750362}, {"user_id": 15730, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311968088.5867491, "message": "I wonder when autocorrect will stop trying to change \"convore\" every time I type it.", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750398}, {"user_id": 38963, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311968269.2667229, "message": "@mkrisher How do you like backbone?", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750432}, {"user_id": 38985, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311968348.9265621, "message": "@leah my mustache hasn't quite reach handlebar status", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750446}, {"user_id": 38870, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967511.0771871, "message": "@leah convore is great for conferences by the way, much better than a twitter backchannel", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750316}, {"user_id": 38870, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967812.5367441, "message": "@mileszs I was just messing with you, trying to start something since @leah was listening :)", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750370}, {"user_id": 544, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311968350.141295, "message": "@leah I can\u2019t think of a web app I use these days that isn\u2019t JS-heavy. Twitter, Flickr, Facebook, Convore, Teambox, etc. etc. etc.", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750447}, {"user_id": 38963, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311969002.292711, "message": "It'll call an endpoint in your (server) app that supplies, say, JSON.", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750544}, {"user_id": 26037, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967717.4263611, "message": "I need an iPad to use the Convore app :)", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750350}, {"user_id": 38963, "stars": [{"date_created": 1311967734.554842, "user_id": 2}], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967718.832299, "message": "No! They each have their strengths, I think, and Convore is definitely shining in our current application of it.", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750352}, {"user_id": 2, "stars": [{"date_created": 1311968320.4387431, "user_id": 26037}], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311968194.7380819, "message": "http://guides.sproutcore.com/getting_started.html", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750419}, {"user_id": 38963, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967755.1315899, "message": "Also, I'm a huge geek and you'll have to pry IRC away from six feet under ground.", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750363}, {"user_id": 38964, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967998.8647699, "message": "The convore web page works much better for me in landscape on ios5 than portrait . Weird", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750390}, {"user_id": 26037, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311968394.2828219, "message": "This sounds like something I'll be playing with tomorrow. Very interesting.", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750453}, {"user_id": 38961, "stars": [{"date_created": 1311968418.209774, "user_id": 2}], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311968404.198302, "message": "Anyone know why views define their relationship to controllers and models in SC instead of vice versa?", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750454}, {"user_id": 26037, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311967978.209857, "message": "@swilliams_et Yes, good luck to me!", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750385}, {"user_id": 26037, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311968341.9987831, "message": "@mileszs Javascript versions or SproutCore versions?", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750445}, {"user_id": 38950, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311968860.2751801, "message": "So do SproutCore models then interface with MySQL on the backend somehow? How does the data move from the browser and to a real server and when exactly?", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750519}, {"user_id": 38963, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311968317.1174691, "message": "@leah Is 1.6 the _old_ version, and 2.0 is on the way? I have no idea why I keep getting confused by SproutCore's versions, but I do.", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750441}, {"user_id": 38870, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311968694.492909, "message": "@samshull I think it seems backwards compared to other MVC setups but this allows for more flexibility with regards to states, async finding out of states", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750498}, {"user_id": 38963, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311968543.9400611, "message": "Looks like that guide is for an older version of SproutCore (1.6). The latest SproutCore: http://blog.sproutcore.com/sproutcore-2-0-beta-2-released/ ... for which I haven't found good docs, yet. :-(", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750479}, {"user_id": 38950, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311969091.452234, "message": "Ahh gotcha.", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750557}, {"user_id": 38963, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311969451.6827321, "message": "Haha.", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750597}, {"user_id": 38963, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311969572.7636349, "message": "(for SproutCore 2.0)", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750608}, {"user_id": 38950, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311969397.5642779, "message": "Aww you rawk Miles", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750591}, {"user_id": 38961, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311968941.9830151, "message": "@timnovinger the data moves between the model and the backend via HTTP", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750531}, {"user_id": 38963, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311969240.667882, "message": "Really late reply to the jQuery + SproutCore question earlier: http://yehudakatz.com/2011/06/11/using-sproutcore-2-0-with-jquery-ui/", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750573}, {"user_id": 38963, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311969478.6216221, "message": "I hope this isn't like the Rails 3.1 release, which was supposed to be released (as final) like 2 months ago. :-)", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1750600}, {"user_id": 38951, "stars": [], "topic_id": 42962, "date_created": 1311995760.8208201, "message": "Strobe has done a nice screencast series that you might want to check out http://www.strobecorp.com/products-press/", "group_id": 11136, "id": 1752963}] |