convore.json/groups/sabermetrics/stat-war/messages.json

[{"user_id": 573, "stars": [], "topic_id": 15558, "date_created": 1301198776.813365, "message": "WAR, wins above replacement, is an attempt to measure a player's value in a single statistic.", "group_id": 4566, "id": 449312}, {"user_id": 573, "stars": [], "topic_id": 15558, "date_created": 1301199092.201165, "message": "Check out this post for a fantastic explanation of what goes into WAR: http://www.fangraphs.com/library/index.php/misc/war/", "group_id": 4566, "id": 449335}, {"user_id": 573, "stars": [], "topic_id": 15558, "date_created": 1301198921.022779, "message": "The ingredients that go into this stat are offensive and defensive contributions (WAR is calculated differently for pitchers and fielders), an adjustment that accounts for expected production from a particular position, and an adjustment that accounts for the player's home park's effects on hitting.", "group_id": 4566, "id": 449322}, {"user_id": 573, "stars": [], "topic_id": 15558, "date_created": 1301198999.127486, "message": "All of this is compared against a baseline: a \"replacement level\" player.", "group_id": 4566, "id": 449327}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 15558, "date_created": 1301512682.486227, "message": "good summation.", "group_id": 4566, "id": 484193}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 15558, "date_created": 1301512689.8679481, "message": "but it does come in a lot of flavors, which should be noted", "group_id": 4566, "id": 484194}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 15558, "date_created": 1301512695.168314, "message": "granted with slightly different names", "group_id": 4566, "id": 484195}, {"user_id": 573, "stars": [], "topic_id": 15558, "date_created": 1301520227.2481639, "message": "definitely. the key is, and i think this can't be repeated enough, understanding that WAR isn't a definitive evaluation; it's the beginning of, and a tool for, discussion.", "group_id": 4566, "id": 485215}, {"user_id": 573, "stars": [], "topic_id": 15558, "date_created": 1301596819.0942271, "message": "i think selecting a few players from different tiers could be an interesting case study for comparing WAR calculations across sources", "group_id": 4566, "id": 494613}, {"user_id": 573, "stars": [], "topic_id": 15558, "date_created": 1301596876.964613, "message": "speaking to the different flavors, it's worth noting at least this: WAR is calculated differently by each source. baseball reference, if i understand this correctly, eschews defensive data because it doesn't believe in the quality of the data. fangraphs does not.", "group_id": 4566, "id": 494624}, {"user_id": 573, "stars": [], "topic_id": 15558, "date_created": 1301597010.303297, "message": "personally, i side with baseball reference for a couple of reasons: the defensive data that fangraphs uses includes proprietary data behind a paywall, and because WAR translates more usefully to fantasy baseball without defensive measurements included", "group_id": 4566, "id": 494655}, {"user_id": 573, "stars": [], "topic_id": 15558, "date_created": 1301597316.6066811, "message": "i think an interesting fantasy stat would be one that measures how valuable a certain player is to your team, compared to the rest of your offense or defense. could be very valuable in projecting trades, too.", "group_id": 4566, "id": 494735}, {"user_id": 15780, "stars": [], "topic_id": 15558, "date_created": 1301525766.2342589, "message": "Because it's seen as a starting point with a player (probably a timely issue given that rosters are being finalized for opening weekend!) why don't we pick a handful of players to track throughout the season to see how they compare, etc? (if this isn't possible... it's probably because i'm still learning about the way WAR is used! haha)", "group_id": 4566, "id": 485648}, {"user_id": 15780, "stars": [], "topic_id": 15558, "date_created": 1301933271.6363771, "message": "So who do we pick to get a good sample to track the stat? A couple rookies/vets/superstars? Positions...??", "group_id": 4566, "id": 524314}, {"user_id": 573, "stars": [], "topic_id": 15558, "date_created": 1302042332.0405309, "message": "depends what you're looking to track. what are you looking to track?", "group_id": 4566, "id": 549054}]