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[{"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1297926681.686327, "message": "Yeah, the fact that it doesn't need a client is pretty awesome", "group_id": 4266, "id": 129776}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1297926744.459204, "message": "Did you see my response to your video card post?", "group_id": 4266, "id": 129786}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1297926519.902555, "message": "poke", "group_id": 4266, "id": 129765}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1297926607.6500161, "message": "Yes, it's on. Pretty groovy, huh", "group_id": 4266, "id": 129771}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1297927098.7067449, "message": "No problem. I'm heading off to bed now. Glad to see you back lurking on the boards again", "group_id": 4266, "id": 129814}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1297926993.731226, "message": "Great, thanks.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 129813}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1297926717.1580999, "message": "It's supposedly recently launched by a San Fran startup, but is rapidly growing", "group_id": 4266, "id": 129781}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1297926910.01579, "message": "If you are planning a physical purchase of the card, then you might get a suggested wattage form the box (since the box often has more info than the NewEgg sheet)", "group_id": 4266, "id": 129807}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1297926956.264101, "message": "It varies by card, and the best info is probably from the manufacturer, but if I had to throwout a number, I wouldn't worry unless the power supply was less than 450W", "group_id": 4266, "id": 129811}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1297926831.183707, "message": "I did, thanks. Added a question. Then I gut my machine and see what I have and what it can handle.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 129798}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1297926646.623512, "message": "Yep, glad we found a half way house. Better than having 5 different instant messaging services on.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 129773}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1297927123.673234, "message": "good night.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 129815}, {"user_id": 13135, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1297956951.559396, "message": "I got signed up, so if someone messages does it flash the browser window or something? Or will I need to check on it?", "group_id": 4266, "id": 132509}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1297964810.6347089, "message": "If your logged on, the browser tab will show one message tag. It's pretty cool, a mix between instant messager and archive.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 133474}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1297977055.4563091, "message": "Hows it going?", "group_id": 4266, "id": 135982}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1297975894.9349771, "message": "Tharbas...", "group_id": 4266, "id": 135767}, {"user_id": 13238, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1297977318.611017, "message": "maybe we should keep it in :P", "group_id": 4266, "id": 136028}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1297977323.4197421, "message": "lol", "group_id": 4266, "id": 136029}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1297977270.999052, "message": "It has a void at one end for depressed players to \"exit the game\"", "group_id": 4266, "id": 136022}, {"user_id": 13238, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1297977009.9211941, "message": "Bandit", "group_id": 4266, "id": 135966}, {"user_id": 13238, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1297977236.6747079, "message": "Not very much actually ^^ just walked around in this testmap", "group_id": 4266, "id": 136016}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1297977341.820991, "message": "I can't take it any more, I'm leaving into the void...", "group_id": 4266, "id": 136030}, {"user_id": 13238, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1297977348.3724599, "message": "i'd like to see this map textured and lighted but that may take a while", "group_id": 4266, "id": 136032}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297987194.6586001, "user_id": 11689}], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1297980896.3802969, "message": "Well, I going to help out in the texturing area.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 136838}, {"user_id": 13749, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1298071418.423351, "message": "'ello mudda', 'ave you 'idden my 'atchet?", "group_id": 4266, "id": 147373}, {"user_id": 13749, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1298071603.9774959, "message": "I'm going to be doing quite a bit more updating to the map before i even worry at all about textures so the texturing might take awhile. Lighting is also one of the final things that will be done.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 147418}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1298135430.62603, "message": "Proceeding in passes is a great idea, that way you can share improvements after each pass and we programmers will be able to keep checking our behaviors versus real level design", "group_id": 4266, "id": 149931}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305594089.679919, "message": "going dinner, cya later.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077137}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583030.2345841, "message": "ok", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075383}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583078.7057059, "message": "where are you guys at", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075396}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593416.406352, "message": "Are you working on 3D modeling or just concept art?", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1076939}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593421.3797221, "message": "both really", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1076942}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305582854.0944121, "message": "you there", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075350}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305594095.4096141, "message": "later man", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077138}, {"user_id": 13135, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583061.5651031, "message": "Hey bandit", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075391}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583940.6169691, "message": "Stories only need characters, who said they got to be NPC's?", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075529}, {"user_id": 13135, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583486.707906, "message": "well, it's great to develop those major storylines, but I think from a technical standpoint we need to have more immediate goals such as tools to build missions, dialog, etc and be able to run those in game. And then the system to run those.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075466}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583579.0096271, "message": "Good point Noah.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075474}, {"user_id": 13135, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583589.9014759, "message": "There's a lot of things left to develop before we can have a persistent world where you are going through a major storyline is all I'm saying. So we need a technical goal that will get us part of the way there.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075477}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583981.2751019, "message": "lets say my mission is to go in and kidnap someone, the other players will prevent me from doing that? what if noone is logged in?", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075534}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583172.0643311, "message": "Bellevue WA", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075408}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583351.7114911, "message": "once i read and pick a story line, then i can quickly do some basic concepted story arc designs, from point A to point B...", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075447}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583463.980731, "message": "i got a question, so if I pick one of the stories, i can still choose wether I want to be a mage, decker or the muscle right?", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075461}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583043.898627, "message": "haha nice", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075388}, {"user_id": 13135, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305584010.9160769, "message": "I think opposing missions is kind of a special case that we'd like to allow", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075539}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305584017.997407, "message": "aw ok cool", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075541}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305582919.013253, "message": "ok sweet", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075357}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583050.7421329, "message": "hellop to u too :)", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075390}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305582838.1155021, "message": "hey", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075349}, {"user_id": 13135, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583037.9815619, "message": "hello, i mean :)", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075387}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583093.717725, "message": "im in alabama", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075400}, {"user_id": 13135, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583756.606075, "message": "Yeah, I think we could take the first episode and design a counter-mission to it so as to bring in two teams and test combat.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075499}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305582689.3525801, "message": "Hi david", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075313}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305582960.6830449, "message": "so im talking to noah as well", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075365}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583707.301055, "message": "so then we can build the first episode of one of the storylines?", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075493}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583901.51315, "message": "thats rough because, how can you progress the story?", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075524}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583014.6321261, "message": "ee", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075379}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583010.6372631, "message": "trying to get him over", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075376}, {"user_id": 13135, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583111.292865, "message": "texas", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075401}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583774.6439061, "message": "im only saying this because art wise it will help me develop assets and concepts. If i know the location, whats there and needed for the missions then I can know what to draw.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075503}, {"user_id": 13135, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583900.7921529, "message": "So what we need it seems is a) a writer developing our primary scene, who's what's, etc. b) artist(s) developing from that and c) developers making sure any functionality needed for it is there", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075523}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583997.9699719, "message": "but i got to go", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075536}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305582907.140878, "message": "yep, if you look at topics, you see a +1 next to that topic, so you can see new posts. Plus it archives everything, so others can see what has been discussed.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075356}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583012.835649, "message": "her", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075377}, {"user_id": 13135, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583032.1125331, "message": "hellop", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075385}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583136.053725, "message": "aw cool", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075405}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583261.3795421, "message": "yea me and bandit were talking about that as well... im going to read through the missions tonight", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075428}, {"user_id": 13135, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583214.4809639, "message": "So we were discussing Alpha and if we should be re-defining it's goals", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075415}, {"user_id": 13135, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583237.5160389, "message": "Instead of Arena Brawl the game, having it be more about runs from the start", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075422}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583295.277684, "message": "yea exactly", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075437}, {"user_id": 13135, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583608.2339439, "message": "Such as the opposing runs idea from the forums", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075479}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583279.408381, "message": "Perhaps, better than runs would be Major storylines.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075433}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583454.354528, "message": "The Major storylines may not be fill out, or outdated, but you get a good overview on the wiki and you can email me questions or meet up here again to duke it out.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075459}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583567.6195619, "message": "You can play any character you want or can imagine, it makes little different to the game as a whole.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075473}, {"user_id": 13135, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583690.8697691, "message": "So I'm all for changing what our Alpha is exactly, but it should be a limited set of features that are most core to the game", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075491}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583709.189353, "message": "Agreed", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075494}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583837.2530689, "message": "so is that how it works...? will the players play both sides of the story?", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075509}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583853.9888599, "message": "They can, yes.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075512}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583864.5531521, "message": "aww damn ha", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075516}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583952.79038, "message": "But we wondering dangerously off topic.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075530}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305584113.064008, "message": "so we need a mission / run? So that we can proceed?", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075555}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305584392.8263831, "message": "How about this one? http://awakenedmmo.org/wiki/Mission:Friendly_Warning", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075598}, {"user_id": 13135, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583638.8489699, "message": "It doesn't have to be an Arena, but just having a single level in which to have these runs would be a starting point", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075482}, {"user_id": 13135, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305584176.9469349, "message": "I think a test run to start from would be helpful for me. Even today I was trying to come up with example runs to think of what types of events and actions might occur.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075561}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305583887.392406, "message": "My idea, hoping to get everyone on board. Is too do away with most NPC's. entirely.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075520}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305584002.1697891, "message": "be home in like 20 mins", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075537}, {"user_id": 13135, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305584086.909672, "message": "we don't have believable opponents yet, so opposed teams is easier to start with", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075547}, {"user_id": 13135, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305584065.1685579, "message": "the opposing runs for alpha is because our AI is non-existent / sucks", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075545}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305584217.3980081, "message": "Ok, let me look.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075565}, {"user_id": 13135, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305584226.606497, "message": "The capability I'm working on is scripting missions, dialogs, events, etc.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075567}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305585253.240684, "message": "im home", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075672}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305585428.7093899, "message": "none, it's just a one off mission.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075710}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593432.5631831, "message": "that stuff thats on the site that im posting are just concepts", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1076943}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305585306.1265881, "message": "one story arc is that", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075680}, {"user_id": 13135, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305585083.5392399, "message": "Okay, so the scene is basically the bar where Damon comes to let loose.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075654}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305585357.1116381, "message": "what story arc is that?", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075695}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305585808.1840861, "message": "workout vid", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075756}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305585272.7919159, "message": "you guys there", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075675}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305585751.256129, "message": "huh?", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075752}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593535.6197281, "message": "things like that", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1076968}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305585277.042289, "message": "yep, two side can be team to teach him the lesson and body guards, you have a few different possible resutls", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075676}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305586678.482887, "message": "ok sweet", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075895}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305585721.893409, "message": "im doing the p90x right now ha", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075749}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305586074.8336711, "message": "Ah", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075790}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305586109.371455, "message": "to be honest, id be happy to have one section of one part of a story done and be happy just to play in the world of shadowrun", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075796}, {"user_id": 13135, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305586629.363312, "message": "hey I'm gonna leave work here. We should continue this at a later time.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075888}, {"user_id": 12839, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305587603.7201109, "message": "still here, was just finishing up some homework for school.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075987}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305586692.2647741, "message": "we need to get erik here is awell", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075897}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305586697.7698591, "message": "you still there", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1075899}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305590188.5883889, "message": "so I sort of like the hacking story but these dont have main characters, i dont get whats going on", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1076266}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593345.330883, "message": "whatup, good to see you on", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1076920}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593213.3849559, "message": "hi guys", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1076909}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593998.4965141, "message": "quantify?", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077108}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593361.1707189, "message": "You guys are talking great ideas, but that really is the Beta milestones almost verbatim", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1076922}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593554.5301521, "message": "It's purposefully an incomplete demo to help programming the combat system and AI. We need to crawl before we can walk", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1076971}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593506.634275, "message": "i just dont like the idea of the arena brawl,", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1076960}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593521.974061, "message": "the hacking", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1076963}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593525.2415569, "message": "the transporting", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1076964}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305595182.0182199, "message": "see i guess im a little lost, so i download the game, i start my story line.. would there also be someone else there that could be starting that same story? or do i go to this public area, gather my runners and we all go to continued the story?", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077341}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593215.2918251, "message": "catching up", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1076910}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593383.018007, "message": "http://awakenedmmo.org/wiki/Roadmap", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1076930}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593635.0143759, "message": "for me its more interesting to play a shadowrun game, instead of another 360 clone", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1076992}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593240.437161, "message": "okay, caught up", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1076911}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593393.215076, "message": "id rather be working on assets that can be reused in other areas", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1076935}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593394.133996, "message": "Good to see you, David", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1076936}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593517.4501109, "message": "wheres the shadow runs", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1076962}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593999.6832371, "message": "ha", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077109}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305594004.295872, "message": "over my head man", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077111}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593728.908644, "message": "i get it that its just for testing", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077023}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593568.566977, "message": "that can be done without assets", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1076975}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593479.9724979, "message": "The Arena is intended to be a realistic urban setting with some contrived features for playability, I really see no reason why the core of what you're making is out of place in Arena Brawl and reusable in other areas. The intention is for it to segue nicely to building out story locations", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1076958}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593739.1360371, "message": "The project actually predates release of the 360 game", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077025}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593308.8506169, "message": "You guys are missing one of the key reasonings behind Arena Brawl: strictly speaking, it doesn't require a Zone and World server communicating and working together. We would be able to make a single-player vs. bots and LAN-only version that showed off SRA's potential to people", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1076918}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305594683.5301001, "message": "There are public areas in the game for congregation, and we had some lofty-eyed dreams of making everything persistent and public at some point, but since moving the UDK (and given the fact that it isn't MMO from the ground-up) we will likely have more instancing for each team", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077282}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305595787.2802169, "message": "If you want a complete high-level description, we have one on the wiki: http://awakenedmmo.org/wiki/Game_Design_Document", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077410}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305595965.9648671, "message": "Perhaps some practical examples of the game from the player's perspective are missing from the wiki. Nothing describes the user experience in terms of \"logging in, teaming up, and storylining\"", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077463}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596200.384867, "message": "i need you to hear me out", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077510}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593533.5528531, "message": "assasinations", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1076967}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593602.7236869, "message": "i think im missing something about the game", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1076981}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593606.2525079, "message": "If the asset quality does not reflect the direction of the final game, it will not work as a demo to drive interest for the game", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1076983}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593616.8639791, "message": "and thats what im talking about", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1076989}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593792.7942319, "message": "It really is just for testing and it really is driven by the constrains of how much software Noah and I can make", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077052}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593914.020905, "message": "I can definitely empathize that from an Assets standpoint, you guys could start making things for the final game tomorrow if you really wanted to", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077085}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305594062.683042, "message": "The player is the most important character in the story", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077124}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305594079.2280681, "message": "ok,", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077132}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305594099.0889621, "message": "seeya", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077140}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593706.190028, "message": "arent we all here because of the disregard for what shadowrun was by microsoft", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077015}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593774.60285, "message": "(though, we were facepalming over the trailers something fierce)", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077044}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593839.71311, "message": "We need 1 complex piece of software to make AB, to make 1 story (using a technique reusable in the final game) we need all 3 pieces of the final architecture (client, Zone Server, and World Server), plus the database the servers sit on top of", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077067}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593919.9059241, "message": "so how does this work, theres 3 main story lines? when a person picks a player in that story line are they the main person? or just a piece?", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077087}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305593976.1218691, "message": "Hmmm, how to quantify that", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077106}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305594080.9259191, "message": "The player belongs to a team, and that team may be made up of interchangeable players", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077133}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305594096.383585, "message": "(3 friend one night, 2 friend + 1 other guy the next night)", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077139}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305594131.430196, "message": "and how is that done", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077152}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305594321.8686581, "message": "so what if everyone wants to be the main guy", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077212}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305594569.7282889, "message": "so if i download the game and play it, will only see the players in the game that want to help me progress?", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077260}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305594122.8154149, "message": "So, the story will have to relate to the team as well as individuals", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077150}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305594245.848022, "message": "Each character carries with them the total progress in the game (relationships with factions, contacts, enemies, etc). At any given time, the player can be on one mission (that mission may or may not factor into a larger storyline)", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077193}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305594253.9975419, "message": "Then they go have fun doing that one mission for 30-90 minutes", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077197}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305594246.530725, "message": "Current thinking is that when a team is formed, they choose one person who's story progress is used to set the next mission for the whole team.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077194}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305594283.5322549, "message": "Missions will have twists and turns, etc. Then the mission is done, their decisions factor into the next path available in the storyline", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077202}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305594360.030762, "message": "Well, everyone is free to leave a team at any time and there is a voting system for most decisions (not 1:1, it's actually charisma+leadership)", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077218}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305594855.484714, "message": "you would come back through public areas for travel and some exposition scenes, but most of the action and things would happen in team instances (so you won't be interrupted during your car chase or showdown with the great dragon)", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077299}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305595954.377852, "message": "i am sure with that first mission you can use that to get your programming side worked out", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077462}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596037.9494441, "message": "Yeah, herding cats = organizing writers", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077484}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596238.422297, "message": "if your stuck on this arena stuff, then meet me half way", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077520}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596267.1019831, "message": "and make the first mission the arena bowl", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077528}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596287.730947, "message": "there you will be able to gather players together", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077531}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596358.674989, "message": "so what do you guys have working so far?", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077555}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596462.7993159, "message": "so what story line interest you most", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077570}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305594437.7810659, "message": "so basically your helping someone or getting help progressing through the game?", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077227}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305594451.9131629, "message": "Yup. There are varying projections about how much inventive/penalty it takes to keep people civil working teams, so we've bandied around additional ideas like achievement systems and player ratings", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077231}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305594484.9482391, "message": "The stories are also intended to be structure such that two players that are near the same point in the story can claim equal progress by the end of a mission, but the writers never quite arbitrated how that would happen", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077238}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305594503.8175721, "message": "(so, if you're in a team of 4 and you", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077240}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305594531.069627, "message": "are all within 1 or 2 missions of each other in the story, you actually all move ahead without having to repeat content)", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077250}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305594542.0973971, "message": "but, I would say that's a fairly ambitious long-term goal", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077252}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305594566.4924669, "message": "in the mid-term (like the beta storyline) I would imagine being able to string 3-5 missions into a coherent long-running story would be quite the achievement", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077258}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305595213.968122, "message": "or anything", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077346}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305594689.076648, "message": "A lot of writers (including myself) were also relieved by that constraint because some of the 100% persistent & public conflicts were nuts to think about", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077283}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305594805.6832571, "message": "When one first starts a session, you will probably drop into a public area (UDK imposes a 64 player per zone limit, which we can up at our own peril), meetup with some friends (or find some willing strangers), then go off and have a mission somewhere with just the 4-5 of you.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077293}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305595212.037348, "message": "i never played wow", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077345}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305597282.1781919, "message": "Please try to remember that software grows like a tree, so we can only be so tall so fast. Conceptualize whatever you like, since that will drive interest, but 3D modeling things for the final game when it can't be used in some form of combat-centric, client-only demo is going to get those assets sat on for a year", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077639}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596255.5002761, "message": "lets pick one of the missions stories", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077524}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596294.325567, "message": "play the mission and test everything", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077533}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596333.883414, "message": "yea, so the gameplay mechanics right", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077547}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596610.6193631, "message": "how developed is that storyline?", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077578}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305595429.543246, "message": "Well, not every mission is intended to tie into a storyline, even though storylines are intended to be the most epic part of the game. There are certain prerequisitues to getting into a storyline. EG if you want to play the mafia storyline, you have to do some missions to gain some positive rep with the mafia", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077368}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305595707.743521, "message": "Those same missions will likely make you an enemy of the Yakuza, which would form the core conflict of the mafia story", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077400}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305595856.5277531, "message": "I also think you might enjoy the writing guy, particularly because it addresses your character important question directly http://awakenedmmo.org/wiki/Writing_guide", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077430}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596005.4218991, "message": "i was trying to read through the story lines but found nothing really fleshed out?", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077471}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596670.3128979, "message": "To put it in terms of a movie, it was okayed by the producers, but lacked a screenplay. It had some broad story strokes, but no setting, characters, etc", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077581}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305595901.5197921, "message": "This is what id like to do and hear me out. Id like to take one of the story lines an be level story boarding concepts. Also I would like to that one story level and begin with the first main mission. and creating a lot of 2d concepts that show exactly the feel and look and style.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077447}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596215.5145741, "message": "i have a badass concept artist that works next to me", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077515}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596617.967185, "message": "do we have locations?", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077580}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596838.447192, "message": "Dooley is a little busy being a web entrepeneur and newly minted father. Truly, I'm happy he's drifted back to put some time into the UI", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077592}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596025.4944861, "message": "Indeed", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077478}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596025.8589621, "message": "anything you make toward the final game, but not necessarily for AB, is still useful later", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077480}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596090.13798, "message": "The problem is that there is an infinite later and only limited useful options for showing palpable progress on the project", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077495}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596146.4749999, "message": "If we go full-bore on Arena Brawl, and find a modeler and animator for humanoids (the key component at this point, IMO), we would still be lucky to have something downloadable by Christmas (or about 2 years into the UDK)", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077504}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596166.806124, "message": "Beta, since it needs storylines and so much more software, would be lucky to happen in 2012", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077507}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596313.1299169, "message": "okay, did you catch the part where I said everything beyond Arena Brawl is about 2 years from now??", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077539}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596435.6975961, "message": "(the dynamic objectives system is the foundation for everything from missions and storylines, to conversations, contacts, and enemies)", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077566}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596407.9426739, "message": "parts of combat (cover, targetting, die resolutions), minimal interop between UDK and the database, a login system for the world server, and Noah is working on the dynamic objectives system", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077563}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596510.6807599, "message": "The Mafia vs. Yakuza storyline really garnered the most acclaim while it was being discussed", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077571}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305597153.0970831, "message": "Anywho, I think you have a big backlog of suggested Wiki reading and I need to go back to being busy", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077621}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596771.3948431, "message": "im surprised that dooley didnt write it", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077590}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596860.931689, "message": "awesome", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077594}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596915.522958, "message": "(BTW, the last 15 minutes of this conversation has been done with my baby in my lap, so we're all very busy with our progeny)", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077598}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596927.3484859, "message": "oh nice congrats man", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077601}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596955.5441821, "message": "Thanks, she's a toddler at this point, but she's still my baby", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077602}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305596972.758357, "message": "haha, thats better than what im doing, i dont even have a gf.lol", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077606}, {"user_id": 11689, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305597088.0419099, "message": "You know, being a single male is worse for life expectancy than smoking", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077615}, {"user_id": 33459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305597168.756892, "message": "haha , ok, see ya", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1077624}, {"user_id": 13135, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305783184.9551289, "message": "The Arena Brawl rules I have already implemented to a great extent, but in a way hard-coded into the game. Now I am working on making this system more dynamic and flexible, so that many different types of missions and goals can be created by writers working with a scripter or programmer.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1108487}, {"user_id": 13135, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305783603.945601, "message": "So there is no reason the setting and the assets needed for this \"arena\" of city slum buildings, cannot be directly usable in Beta. About the only extra assets needed for the Arena Brawl rules would be a ball and maybe a goal, not the hardest or most complicated assets, and they don't have to be uber-quality to server their purpose.\nI definitely am not creating a 360 clone, it's only vaguely similar to that and it will just be a stepping stone on the way to real World server architecture. The assets we need most are humanoids, a few weapons, buildings, maybe doors, things that I know should be reusable and applicable to any more advanced incarnation of the game. Anyway, I'm amazed at the work you are doing David. I think we will get things on a good track to making better progress. Talk to yall soon.", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1108525}, {"user_id": 13135, "stars": [], "topic_id": 6798, "date_created": 1305783066.022047, "message": "Just wanted to add my 2 cents into this. First, I think there is some misconception about what Arena Brawl is. It's not really a bowl or a sports arena, which is very confusing given the name (which we didn't make up). It's supposed to be an urban setting, a place amongst various abandoned buildings and ruins, where a game of the streets takes place. The idea itself is a little over the top, that people would risk their lives to compete in a guns-out team sports game, granted. We are massaging the original idea to include more elements beyond the simple rules of scoring goals with a ball or incapacitating the other team (i.e. deathmatch).", "group_id": 4266, "id": 1108467}] |