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[{"user_id": 8939, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297625658.7589271, "message": "what do you say about android", "group_id": 97, "id": 92949}, {"user_id": 719, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297626530.3892291, "message": "\"These are not the droids you are looking for...\" :)", "group_id": 97, "id": 92979}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297629056.3798909, "user_id": 141}], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297627707.5685899, "message": "Agreed. I think it's something we're just going to have to face when the time comes.", "group_id": 97, "id": 93029}, {"user_id": 141, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297627550.1821339, "message": "despite how much fiction has been written about them i don't think the philosophical questions have been settled at all", "group_id": 97, "id": 93021}, {"user_id": 9316, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297658319.6890881, "user_id": 1}], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297650010.9618089, "message": "Is this a discussion about 'android' the OS or 'android' the machine-people?", "group_id": 97, "id": 95481}, {"user_id": 3570, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297881636.7944269, "message": "It's about the singularity.", "group_id": 97, "id": 122536}, {"user_id": 2458, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297881963.6450701, "message": "@micrypt https://github.com/jquery/jquery/tree/trunk/plugins/color/jquery.color.js :)", "group_id": 97, "id": 122572}, {"user_id": 12346, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297895357.5997579, "message": "Android as an OS is cool, but the user experience is better with iOS.", "group_id": 97, "id": 125548}, {"user_id": 12527, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297908010.9163139, "message": "Agreed. iOS is much slicker/more stable, but at the cost of having to jump through Apple's hoops. If you like to tinker and mess with settings, iOS is frustratingly locked down.", "group_id": 97, "id": 128394}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297921345.7936759, "message": "@Stammy I've done a little bit, not much at all, but a little.", "group_id": 97, "id": 129483}, {"user_id": 1217, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297921270.150924, "message": "any android devs here?", "group_id": 97, "id": 129480}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297921369.414253, "message": "It's too bad we don't have an awesome android group yet https://convore.com/discover/search/?q=android", "group_id": 97, "id": 129484}, {"user_id": 11222, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297929091.1237431, "message": "@Stammy Android dev is waay more intuitive than iOS. I'm scared just looking at their $99 Developer thingy.", "group_id": 97, "id": 129911}, {"user_id": 5582, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297935316.6151619, "message": "@javelinapps If I had the money, I'd definitely buy one of the dev phones like the Nexus One or the Samsung Galaxy S. That way you get the latest Android versions the minute they're released", "group_id": 97, "id": 130313}, {"user_id": 12892, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297935161.0298481, "message": "Cool. So what device do you recommend to get (for development and testing. I already have a phone I use)?", "group_id": 97, "id": 130286}, {"user_id": 12892, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297934509.6606779, "message": "Don't you have to pay to get onto the Android marketplace as well? I've been considering it, since I have some apps for iOS that I could port.", "group_id": 97, "id": 130246}, {"user_id": 5582, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297935026.772217, "message": "@javelinapps it's a one-time fee of $25 to register", "group_id": 97, "id": 130274}, {"user_id": 5582, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297935393.877562, "message": "Technically you could also develop on the phone directly - I will try this as a plan B. My girlfriend has a Samsung Galaxy 3 (i5800), which is a great inexpensive entry-level Android phone. Not so sure how good it is for development.", "group_id": 97, "id": 130318}, {"user_id": 5582, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297935650.208694, "message": "Also another annoying point for me was Eclipse, so I tried IntelliJ IDEA community edition from JetBrains, and it's fantastic. It's free and open-source and includes the Android plugin. Compared to Eclipse I find it faster, lighter. And it seems to \"think\" more for you... presents useful options and gets out of the way.", "group_id": 97, "id": 130333}, {"user_id": 12892, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297935740.3344049, "message": "The simulator, I agree, is hopelessly slow. But buying a phone because it's \"older\" is not that appealing..", "group_id": 97, "id": 130339}, {"user_id": 5582, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297935763.5516851, "message": "When you set up the Android tools you can choose to create a virtual device for every version you want to test, so backwards testing gets pretty easy", "group_id": 97, "id": 130340}, {"user_id": 12892, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297935868.5344529, "message": "That sounds good. Was considering waiting for Honeycomb though.", "group_id": 97, "id": 130346}, {"user_id": 5582, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297935255.904834, "message": "@javelinapps Sorry, I don't actually own an Android phone. I developed an app (well, about 3/4 of a feasible 1.0 version) but I got sick and tired of the slow emulator (admitted, I have an old laptop).", "group_id": 97, "id": 130310}, {"user_id": 12892, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297935655.037472, "message": "Is there a worry that developing on the latest and greatest, you risk performance on \"lesser\" phones not being that good, or even workable at all?", "group_id": 97, "id": 130334}, {"user_id": 5582, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297935676.2906809, "message": "well you generally should test that it works on older versions too", "group_id": 97, "id": 130335}, {"user_id": 12892, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297935793.4212251, "message": "Yeah... except for testing speed... because the simulator doesn't give you device speeds.", "group_id": 97, "id": 130342}, {"user_id": 12892, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297935697.5889561, "message": "I'm used to Eclipse from previous work so that shouldn't be a problem. On Mac, Eclipse seems faster, probably because of SWT.", "group_id": 97, "id": 130336}, {"user_id": 5582, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297935811.302289, "message": "@javelinapps that's why the dev phones are so good: you can flash an older image too, I guess, and natively test more than one version", "group_id": 97, "id": 130344}, {"user_id": 5582, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297935721.4189939, "message": "There are stats on that, don't have a link handy now, but I think right now 2.1 and 2.2 make up the majority with 1.6 still there but in decline and 2.3 probably rising slowly", "group_id": 97, "id": 130337}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297952369.3490109, "message": "In terms of android phones, I think its best to get the ones officially released by Google.", "group_id": 97, "id": 131920}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297952375.722018, "message": "Nexus One, Nexus S", "group_id": 97, "id": 131923}, {"user_id": 5582, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297952484.4107599, "message": "@justinlilly sorry, that's what I meant ... Nexus S not Galaxy S. I was confused :)", "group_id": 97, "id": 131943}, {"user_id": 7376, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297962873.221338, "user_id": 5582}, {"date_created": 1297991687.360688, "user_id": 9108}], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297956256.7673399, "message": "@nklsrh2 I gave up on Apple when I found out that I need to pay a $99 anual subscription to write software for their precious platform. Developers make a platform better, I felt insulted that I need to pay them $99/yr just to install my own app on my own hardware. F them.", "group_id": 97, "id": 132418}, {"user_id": 7376, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297956354.9228499, "message": "@justinlilly I love my Nexus One, I wish they'd release the Nexus S on AT&T so I don't have to go through the ordeal of switching carriers.", "group_id": 97, "id": 132429}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297957165.1146431, "message": "Though, afaik, nexus s does work for AT&T", "group_id": 97, "id": 132527}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297957209.9528229, "message": "on tmobile, if you own your phone, you can get a no-contract plan for 60/mo for unlimited data & texts. That's what I have and its nice.", "group_id": 97, "id": 132539}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297957191.0251229, "message": "And I think you have to buy the phone outright.", "group_id": 97, "id": 132535}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297957169.543987, "message": "but you get \"2.5g\"", "group_id": 97, "id": 132529}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297957157.439604, "message": "@ericmoritz I switch carriers from verizon to tmobile for the nexus s. It makes me happy.", "group_id": 97, "id": 132526}, {"user_id": 7376, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297957765.0937481, "message": "@justinlilly Excellent, I will have to check that out. A no contract plan sounds nice. What's the voice plans like?", "group_id": 97, "id": 132584}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297960255.741046, "message": "rather.. I have no need for a voice-only plan.", "group_id": 97, "id": 132856}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297960272.3186769, "message": "but that 60/mo includes voice, if that wasn't clear.", "group_id": 97, "id": 132862}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297960244.5355711, "message": "Not sure. I don't actually use voice.", "group_id": 97, "id": 132847}, {"user_id": 218, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297960278.325732, "message": "I thnk that's at like 450min/mo", "group_id": 97, "id": 132863}, {"user_id": 13244, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1297967044.4104459, "message": "Use Google voice and you don't need many voice minutes", "group_id": 97, "id": 133864}, {"user_id": 5388, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1298020607.135143, "message": "I love Android! But I also love the GUI for iOS. Anyone know if there exists a working port to Android or it doesn't exist because it would be illegal/patent infringement or just too much work?", "group_id": 97, "id": 140964}, {"user_id": 5582, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1298020969.43295, "message": "@Zolomon an iOs-to-Android port would be, imho, very hard if not impossible to do (no source code). The opposite has been done though.", "group_id": 97, "id": 140987}, {"user_id": 5388, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1298023269.990257, "message": "@0chris: I'm mainly talking about the GUI control elements (Labels, Textboxes etc. etc.) That is an iOS skin for the Android GUI elements?", "group_id": 97, "id": 141289}, {"user_id": 5582, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1298035499.75105, "message": "@Zolomon I meant this: http://www.idroidproject.org/wiki/Main_Page (full Android distribution for certain iPhone models)", "group_id": 97, "id": 142623}, {"user_id": 7376, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4980, "date_created": 1298041851.156935, "message": "@justinlilly No it wasn't clear, but it is now, thanks :)", "group_id": 97, "id": 143486}] |