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[{"user_id": 5501, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3543, "date_created": 1297346034.557184, "message": "flask or django... which one would you prefer to learn first ?", "group_id": 97, "id": 69419}, {"user_id": 4893, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297347504.595598, "user_id": 5350}], "topic_id": 3543, "date_created": 1297347203.3734889, "message": "Depends on what you want to do. Personally I like Flask a lot for really small sites and where the primary data store isn't an RDBMS. Django on the other is extremely handy for content-focused projects thanks to the admin interface.", "group_id": 97, "id": 69563}, {"user_id": 4141, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3543, "date_created": 1297350765.7241001, "message": "and now as my needs are growing I'm discovering more and more advanced functionality which is very nice", "group_id": 97, "id": 70310}, {"user_id": 3946, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3543, "date_created": 1297349202.8621299, "message": "I use Bottle.py as my microframework of choice, just because it's a little more micro.", "group_id": 97, "id": 69967}, {"user_id": 222, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297348995.7852499, "user_id": 7}, {"date_created": 1297377637.790236, "user_id": 141}], "topic_id": 3543, "date_created": 1297348975.2317181, "message": "I used Flask for a toy project, it seems like a reasonable way to do things if you don't plan on using Django stuff (e.g. SQLAlchemy). Global request object is not awesome though.", "group_id": 97, "id": 69912}, {"user_id": 4141, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297377623.9051771, "user_id": 141}], "topic_id": 3543, "date_created": 1297350730.0381131, "message": "I love Flask; it's the first framework I've ever used and it's been nothing but good to me", "group_id": 97, "id": 70302}, {"user_id": 1126, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3543, "date_created": 1297351113.32546, "message": "Flask/Bottle are nice for smaller projects, but you have to understand going in that they're not full-stack web frameworks. So while time-to-learn and get a workable site up and running will be much quicker than that of Django for a simplistic site, once you start moving into larger territory it's going to be more of a hindrance by not providing you what you need.", "group_id": 97, "id": 70390}, {"user_id": 6, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3543, "date_created": 1297356511.92922, "message": "I tend to prefer using Django and ignoring the ORM before using Flask.  After using Flask for gimmeservers.com, I think I agree with @zerok that it's for the tiny sites.", "group_id": 97, "id": 71236}, {"user_id": 141, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3543, "date_created": 1297377565.7434101, "message": "i had bad experiences with putting the routing where the handlers are with Catalyst (Perl), so i don't think that scales to a non-tiny app either", "group_id": 97, "id": 75539}, {"user_id": 141, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3543, "date_created": 1297377671.664062, "message": "(maybe i was thinking of the global request object, not the app singleton, since that's common to how wsgi apps work anyway)", "group_id": 97, "id": 75551}, {"user_id": 6459, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3543, "date_created": 1297378293.442853, "message": "test", "group_id": 97, "id": 75608}, {"user_id": 141, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3543, "date_created": 1297377505.937711, "message": "that the app singleton is front and center always felt weird the few times i tried Flask", "group_id": 97, "id": 75535}, {"user_id": 5501, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3543, "date_created": 1297387175.994319, "message": "what do you guys think of Pylons.. is it worth learning it..esp considering its evolving into repoze", "group_id": 97, "id": 76994}, {"user_id": 7, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3543, "date_created": 1297389122.161449, "message": "I wouldn't bother with Pylons, if you want that style of framework look at pyramid", "group_id": 97, "id": 77384}, {"user_id": 3946, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3543, "date_created": 1297389400.4940569, "message": ":|", "group_id": 97, "id": 77404}, {"user_id": 26, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297390701.2445951, "user_id": 7}, {"date_created": 1297390931.6883841, "user_id": 1}, {"date_created": 1297554507.0222471, "user_id": 2125}], "topic_id": 3543, "date_created": 1297389241.1278579, "message": "Pylons are great if you don't want to get supply blocked", "group_id": 97, "id": 77393}, {"user_id": 26, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3543, "date_created": 1297389242.45561, "message": "wat?", "group_id": 97, "id": 77394}, {"user_id": 5501, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3543, "date_created": 1297393400.557128, "message": "django's like a cult :).. gets its real power from a very very dedicated-community ..Im going django", "group_id": 97, "id": 78023}, {"user_id": 5501, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3543, "date_created": 1297393296.051049, "message": "looked at flask.. really nice and has a good sql-alchemy extension.. looks suitable for small apps.. but its created and maintained by one guy...who's currently studying in college.. what if he decides to move on and do other stuff.. way too risky to spend my time n effort", "group_id": 97, "id": 77998}, {"user_id": 4893, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297738813.7492919, "user_id": 5501}], "topic_id": 3543, "date_created": 1297444894.4826601, "message": "@adnan Then I will just go east for two blocks and hit him hard :-P But seriously: Flask is already popular enough that even if Armin decides to drop it (which I don't see happening for the foreseeable future) I doubt it would take long for the current users to take over.", "group_id": 97, "id": 81571}, {"user_id": 7376, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3543, "date_created": 1297553872.047754, "message": "If you're learning, I'd go with Django first.  It's the community leader and there are plenty of tools at your exposure.  Take some time to look into WSGI itself.  If you ever need to build a lightweight web service, I'd use WSGI directly with routes and webob before I'd use a microframework.  IMHO, the microframeworks don't bring enough to the table to have much of an advantage over a pure WSGI example.  Plus, webob's Request, Response objects top notch.", "group_id": 97, "id": 87907}, {"user_id": 7799, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3543, "date_created": 1297582145.4191129, "message": "x", "group_id": 97, "id": 88702}]