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[{"user_id": 3880, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298256834.8168731, "message": "I keep putting it off", "group_id": 97, "id": 155743}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298256838.771867, "message": "Don't", "group_id": 97, "id": 155744}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298256048.566741, "message": "I guess it depends how much you value weight", "group_id": 97, "id": 155683}, {"user_id": 2726, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298256781.0267611, "message": "I currently use a 15\" MBP by the way. I had a 12\" iBook before that. :D", "group_id": 97, "id": 155736}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298257042.868232, "message": "SSD is a generational leap in performance in every way possible", "group_id": 97, "id": 155762}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298256069.432188, "message": "Speed wise at least", "group_id": 97, "id": 155685}, {"user_id": 3880, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298256899.0986841, "message": "The OWC kits seem nice, I would replace my optical drive since I can't remember the last time i used it.", "group_id": 97, "id": 155747}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298257127.766362, "message": "Probably", "group_id": 97, "id": 155781}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298257135.7352171, "message": "I just don't understand why people are so adverse to SSD", "group_id": 97, "id": 155783}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298257184.1544831, "message": "I'd even take a computer with 500Mb of ram and SSD over an 8GB + real HD computer", "group_id": 97, "id": 155785}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298257313.4390869, "message": "Not exaggerated at all", "group_id": 97, "id": 155802}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298257489.234082, "message": "I've been so insanely happy with this machine", "group_id": 97, "id": 155813}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298256058.849638, "message": "So long as both have SSD, they're going to feel very similar", "group_id": 97, "id": 155684}, {"user_id": 651, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298256585.6115029, "message": "The missing keyboard backlight is the only thing keeping me from getting an Air. Bugs me a lot on my current MacBook. Maybe it gets added next week with the (possible) MacBook pro update.", "group_id": 97, "id": 155720}, {"user_id": 14243, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298255984.508224, "message": "Well that. I own a 13'' macbookpro for almost a year, and i'm looking the 13'' macbookair with pretty eyes. The only notable difference is the backlight keyboard. I code, I don't need 8G RAM when using Vim :P.", "group_id": 97, "id": 155676}, {"user_id": 14243, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298256021.0362201, "message": "Sorry, the question.. Is it worth it? switching from one to the other?", "group_id": 97, "id": 155681}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298256035.96749, "message": "Pretty subjective", "group_id": 97, "id": 155682}, {"user_id": 14243, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298256168.6373551, "message": "well, I switch to apple because of the weight/size factor, it's very important to me. But I don't wanna switch and want to kill myself for doing it :P", "group_id": 97, "id": 155691}, {"user_id": 14243, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298256185.564157, "message": "I mean switch from pro to air", "group_id": 97, "id": 155693}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298256236.9430671, "message": "I doubt very much you'd regret it going from 13\"", "group_id": 97, "id": 155698}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298256246.171587, "message": "If you were using a 15\" it'd be a lot different", "group_id": 97, "id": 155701}, {"user_id": 14243, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298256334.5445321, "message": "nah, 15'' is too big for a laptop in my opinion. Well, I guess i'm coming back from NYC with a macbook air then :P", "group_id": 97, "id": 155708}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298256388.3210349, "message": "Ha, I love my hi-res 15\", there's no way I could handle a 13\" air", "group_id": 97, "id": 155713}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298256398.7321031, "message": "But I do a lot in photoshop, xcode, IB and stuff", "group_id": 97, "id": 155714}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298257006.28759, "message": "No.", "group_id": 97, "id": 155755}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298257014.6176989, "message": "You're delusional :)", "group_id": 97, "id": 155759}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298257063.263447, "message": "Starting, sleeping, waking, opening apps, keeping many apps running, searching for files, running text editors, image editors, switching between apps, etc", "group_id": 97, "id": 155765}, {"user_id": 2726, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298257118.1772239, "message": "Hmm. Will an SSD give me sponge baths too? :P", "group_id": 97, "id": 155779}, {"user_id": 1202, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298257238.698386, "message": "500MB of RAM?  I think that's a bit exaggerated.  Just saying. :P", "group_id": 97, "id": 155796}, {"user_id": 2726, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298256716.8871379, "message": "I vote for sticking with the computer that you already own until it dies. (Keep your stuff backed up.) But of course I say that because it's my philosophy. However, based on what you've said I think a MBA would be perfect for you.", "group_id": 97, "id": 155732}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298256797.026361, "message": "Unless your current computer doesn't have an SSD", "group_id": 97, "id": 155738}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [{"date_created": 1298256846.7283061, "user_id": 651}], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298256824.525825, "message": "If you don't have SSD in your computer, you're delusional", "group_id": 97, "id": 155741}, {"user_id": 3880, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298256830.6948349, "message": "=(", "group_id": 97, "id": 155742}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298257344.433743, "message": "In terms of importance of computer parts, SSD is #1 and CPU/Ram/GPU is somewhere around #700", "group_id": 97, "id": 155805}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [{"date_created": 1298304832.0913761, "user_id": 7081}, {"date_created": 1298313209.6524301, "user_id": 1729}], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298257543.2118461, "message": "I wouldn't advise installing SSD into your crush", "group_id": 97, "id": 155818}, {"user_id": 1202, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298256942.9903719, "message": "Keep in mind that RAM shouldn't be your only consideration when deciding between the two computers.  The processor in the MacBook Pro, specifically in the 15\" and 17\" models, will be significantly faster than the Core 2 Duo's in the Air.  Personally, I'd go with a MacBook Pro only because of performance, not because of size.", "group_id": 97, "id": 155748}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298256850.242085, "message": "It's the biggest performance jump I've seen in computers since Pentium was announced", "group_id": 97, "id": 155745}, {"user_id": 10525, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298256858.9275031, "message": "I like Macbook Air but I prefer de Pro because by the same price you get more features, more hard drive spaces and more power. I know is bigger, but not so important for me\u2026", "group_id": 97, "id": 155746}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298257163.6975231, "message": "I'd take a sub 1Ghz processor with SSD over the fastest processor with a regular hard drive any day", "group_id": 97, "id": 155784}, {"user_id": 2726, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298256949.0083799, "message": "I agree that SSDs are a huge performance gain, Kyle. Especially for me but I know some specific cases where everything a user commonly does is already in RAM so it makes little difference to them. Those users probably have a MBP with 8GB of RAM.", "group_id": 97, "id": 155749}, {"user_id": 2726, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298257235.5650139, "message": "If someone hasn't actually used a new Air, they might not realize just how much of a difference there is.", "group_id": 97, "id": 155794}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298257443.1677339, "message": "But I had a similar (CPU/Mem) MBP before this with a 7200 drive and it felt at least 10x slower", "group_id": 97, "id": 155811}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298257411.689688, "message": "http://share.kyleneath.com/captures/About_This_Mac-20110220-190324.png", "group_id": 97, "id": 155808}, {"user_id": 14243, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298257854.594708, "message": "well I'm trying to buy an SSD for my macbook pro, but where I'm from in order to buy an SSD you have to rob a bank and sell the hole safe. I know SSD is a tech jump, I MUST get one ASAP", "group_id": 97, "id": 155838}, {"user_id": 2726, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298257292.3248169, "message": "Paging RAM out to disk is *fast* on an SSD.", "group_id": 97, "id": 155800}, {"user_id": 2726, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298257421.2882259, "message": "Fast.", "group_id": 97, "id": 155809}, {"user_id": 2726, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298257550.95522, "message": "Of course, that may actually involve sponge baths.", "group_id": 97, "id": 155819}, {"user_id": 2726, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298257391.855231, "message": "@kneath what do you use?", "group_id": 97, "id": 155806}, {"user_id": 2726, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298257454.7755809, "message": "Nice partition title.", "group_id": 97, "id": 155812}, {"user_id": 2726, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298257491.2244229, "message": "I want to upgrade but I think moving to a different machine before this one dies would just be wasteful.", "group_id": 97, "id": 155814}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298257425.633996, "message": "Best of all world for this machine :)", "group_id": 97, "id": 155810}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298257499.0221369, "message": "Usually I start to hate my computers after owning them for a few months", "group_id": 97, "id": 155815}, {"user_id": 19, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298257508.2298231, "message": "And I'm pretty sure SSD is the biggest reason I'm still happy with it", "group_id": 97, "id": 155816}, {"user_id": 2726, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298257518.1059561, "message": "I know people who are like that with dates.", "group_id": 97, "id": 155817}, {"user_id": 14267, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298262868.6624589, "message": "@sebelas hahahahhaha", "group_id": 97, "id": 156026}, {"user_id": 15887, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1298855987.110559, "message": "I have an Air, I like it, but I do pine for a system where I don't have to economize my usage. I'd like to have my Air + a desktop iMac, with 12 gigs of RAM, quad i7, etc. I agree with @kneath - SSD is a must on all computers here on out.", "group_id": 97, "id": 223158}, {"user_id": 667, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299018696.431222, "message": "I have one of these 240GB SSDs in my i7 MBP: http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/internal_storage/Mercury_Extreme_SSD_Sandforce/Solid_State_Pro", "group_id": 97, "id": 240415}, {"user_id": 16907, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299018422.6321399, "message": "Why not get just one computer, the quad i7 MacBook Pro?", "group_id": 97, "id": 240299}, {"user_id": 16939, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299044494.411551, "user_id": 224}], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299018895.7400501, "message": "11 inch MBA great for a mobile solution. I like it better for most use over iPad.", "group_id": 97, "id": 240520}, {"user_id": 4893, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299084302.0727241, "message": "Since the iPad doesn't allow most use-cases for me, that's quite easy :-)", "group_id": 97, "id": 248580}, {"user_id": 15929, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299085635.6360071, "message": "short answer: it depends...", "group_id": 97, "id": 248850}, {"user_id": 15929, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299085899.725858, "message": "if you need it to do heavy coding (beyond vi of course), you might need to virtualize windows env? extra screen res on 15\"+ mbp to run multiple coda, perhaps?\n\nslight tendency on gaming point? mac appstore getting more and more popular. chances are epic games might produce game for mac now, since they're doing stuff with iOS anyways... having better gpu helps...", "group_id": 97, "id": 248890}, {"user_id": 15929, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299086023.595068, "message": "besides ssd and sex appeal, i don't think mba has any edge... imho", "group_id": 97, "id": 248903}, {"user_id": 1231, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299086118.524976, "message": "I'd also suggest weight and size, but that's hard to nail down because everybody's needs and expectations are different.", "group_id": 97, "id": 248915}, {"user_id": 17469, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299120016.419292, "message": "@aseba you dont need an IDE but see how gcc works on that cute Macbook Air battery. Oh, oh, and wait till you try sudo port install fucking-anything. BOOM.", "group_id": 97, "id": 256376}, {"user_id": 15887, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299129658.4908509, "message": "@CrisGato two 27\" monitors = heaven", "group_id": 97, "id": 258044}, {"user_id": 18425, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299178443.6528161, "message": "I am thinking about getting a MacbookPro for college. Does anyone think that the Air would be better?", "group_id": 97, "id": 262330}, {"user_id": 18355, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299178366.9251151, "message": "Instead of buying the 15 inch MacBook pro I opted for an iMac and an air. I get more power per dollar I'm the desktop and the most portable computer Apple sells.", "group_id": 97, "id": 262300}, {"user_id": 651, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299185057.8042319, "message": "@johnathanschultz I think the 15\" MacBookPro is too big to carry around all day and the 13\" MBP is kinda outdated with the low-res display compared to the 13\" MBAir. If you don't need hardware the Air's missing, I'd prefer that.", "group_id": 97, "id": 263441}, {"user_id": 18425, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299187097.5999269, "message": "Thanks, I think I will look more closely at the Air. Maybe someone at my local apple store would be another person to talk to as well.", "group_id": 97, "id": 263781}, {"user_id": 2597, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299189084.7466371, "message": "@aseba I carried a netbook for 6 months before having my MBP", "group_id": 97, "id": 264190}, {"user_id": 2597, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299188522.4417131, "message": "@mrtazz I carry my 15\" MBP everyday and I think it's not that heavy", "group_id": 97, "id": 264055}, {"user_id": 14243, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299188748.2869451, "message": "@equinox that's because you never carried anything lighter :P", "group_id": 97, "id": 264084}, {"user_id": 13912, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299191408.6151159, "message": "Had my old 17\" die some time ago. Had to use my dad's air for a while. Not fun. These are the most portable desktop replacements out there. Lighter than a lot of smaller laptop models + 8 hour battery.", "group_id": 97, "id": 264661}, {"user_id": 13912, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299191175.253222, "message": "17\" antiglare + hybrid seagate momentus xt on this thing http://i.imgur.com/EQg4z.jpg", "group_id": 97, "id": 264643}, {"user_id": 17922, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299217088.2146089, "message": "Has anyone swapped out the HD in a MBP for a SSD?  Worth the upgrade in terms of performance/speed?", "group_id": 97, "id": 266946}, {"user_id": 5582, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299221675.9393561, "message": "I'm a bit disappointed by the recent \"facelift\" of the MBP. I was expecting Apple to drop the optical drive for more battery life or less weight and/or slimmer case. Also, I was pretty sure they would bring in the SSDs. And I certainly didn't expect the resolution in the _PRO_ to be less than in the Air.", "group_id": 97, "id": 267289}, {"user_id": 1684, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299221414.931145, "message": "i have three...i have had a macbook for a year and decided i want the air...but i was so used to the lit keyboard and only dicovered the lack of it in the air...i bought the macbook pro a month after i got the air...so now i use the air for the road its the ultimate lightweight laptop...minus the keyboard lights...and sometimes it hangs...otherwise no complaints...and i have the macbook pro 13 inch which has to be the rolls royce of all laptops...so smooth so comfortable so fast...in the office and the old macbook which works just fine at home which im using to write this....so if given the choice now that i have the 3...get the pro...there is an old saying that goes \"if you really want to know ask the patient dont ask a doctor..\"", "group_id": 97, "id": 267274}, {"user_id": 18637, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299225365.810189, "message": "I have the 2010 MBP with the OWC 480 GB SSD. I boot the machine in 12 seconds. It is a totally different computer with the SSD. It is smoking fast and I find absolutely no reason to upgrade to the 2011 MBP having the SSD. I don't game though so the new graphics don't appeal to me.", "group_id": 97, "id": 267698}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299225427.4741609, "message": "Dunno about the pro, but I have am Air and I love it.", "group_id": 97, "id": 267703}, {"user_id": 13912, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299334283.3676839, "message": "@Aeonblue3 I've swaped it for a hybrid. If you have one of the more common 5400 RPM HDDs performance will improve significantly. I haven't compared to one with 7200RPM.", "group_id": 97, "id": 276250}, {"user_id": 1744, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299447025.6245461, "message": "Air FTW. I've been a huge fan of the laptop.", "group_id": 97, "id": 281914}, {"user_id": 17124, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299490715.392349, "message": "It is indeed subjective. We all have our own needs and quirks. In my case, when I saw the keynote showing the latest MBA models with flash memory, I thought that's the first laptop that actually makes sense. My next laptop will very likely be the MBA, either model.  After all, I do already have a desktop Mac, so I don't need the power and features of a MBP. The only downside and one of my pet peeves is the glossy screen, which I think is the wrong choice for an ultraportable computer like that. Meanwhile, I'm experimenting with an iPad to see if I could successfully replace a laptop with it.", "group_id": 97, "id": 286525}, {"user_id": 19352, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299516268.6350949, "message": "the only thing holding me back from the MBA is the GPU, but the early 2011 13\" MBP doesn't have discrete graphics... so I think it's kind of a wash?", "group_id": 97, "id": 288789}, {"user_id": 19382, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299528140.2671089, "message": "@aseba only masochists use vim outside of ssh ;)", "group_id": 97, "id": 290412}, {"user_id": 19160, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299529223.6144609, "message": "Love my MacBook Pro - like all the ports", "group_id": 97, "id": 290566}, {"user_id": 19040, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299568104.7597289, "message": "I find the 11 inch too small for any kind of work (unless i'm travelling and something needs a quick fix). speed wise it's actually quite usable for most things. Add a display and external keyboard and it's comparable to a macbook pro from 3 years ago (and I don't think they are too bad!).", "group_id": 97, "id": 294767}, {"user_id": 6135, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299720588.391315, "message": "I love my 13inch Air. wouldn't trade it for even a new MBP with thunderbolt.", "group_id": 97, "id": 309847}, {"user_id": 16194, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299736155.77266, "message": "My new thunderbolt MBP has to be returned because the gpu overheat under stress and freeze. Fail.", "group_id": 97, "id": 311271}, {"user_id": 19238, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299754397.9730599, "message": "@kneath SSD has limited write cycles", "group_id": 97, "id": 312503}, {"user_id": 651, "stars": [], "topic_id": 7757, "date_created": 1299188676.8561749, "message": "@equinox it's not only the weight, I think it's also a bit too big, at least for a messenger bag. But I also had problems to adjust to the 13\" after I replaced my 12\" powerbook :).", "group_id": 97, "id": 264071}]