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[{"user_id": 2345, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299205910.859412, "message": "TwitBird and Twitteriffic are the two best third-party apps. I myself use TwitBird now that the official app got to this.", "group_id": 97, "id": 266007}, {"user_id": 14726, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299205218.4256959, "message": "+1 that quick bar is stupid!! I might go back to twitterrific...", "group_id": 97, "id": 265902}, {"user_id": 17013, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299205237.1358039, "message": "I just use safari on my iphone now, kinda sad", "group_id": 97, "id": 265905}, {"user_id": 14726, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299205286.387017, "message": "I guess that's how twitter is going to be making money though... Promoted \"quick bar\" advertisement", "group_id": 97, "id": 265916}, {"user_id": 17013, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299205224.4951091, "message": "I deleted the app from my phone after spending 15 minutes trying to figure out how to turn it off.", "group_id": 97, "id": 265903}, {"user_id": 17013, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299205339.7034631, "message": "I don't mind the bar but it appears then is gone then shows up again, don't really care what is trending, I have my followers I care what they have to say.", "group_id": 97, "id": 265923}, {"user_id": 17013, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299205202.956953, "message": "I am so upset about this. I really wish there was a way to turn off the \"annoy me now\" grey bar.", "group_id": 97, "id": 265899}, {"user_id": 4070, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299205096.2982731, "message": "I first started using Twitter as a TweetDeck person, but then they put all their emphasis on the platforms I don't use (Google things), and their iPhone and Mac clients are both pains in the ass. When they released the official client for iPhone, I adopted it, and same with the Mac client. I still found myself using twitter.com, Twitter for Mac, and Twitter for iPhone, sometimes ALL AT ONCE, in order to get all the functionality I needed, but I was okay with that, because they were all official, so they were at least somewhat consistent. Generally speaking, the iPhone app was the best of the bunch.\n\nHOWEVER, as some of you are no doubt aware, today, they ruined the iPhone app. They added some fixes and features it badly needed, but they packaged it along with this stupid \"quick bar,\" which is a heavy, ugly ad for a promoted topic, along with some trending topics, which I don't want to see, either. You can't turn it off.\n\nSo, iPhone users, what do we do now? What Twitter clients do everything, and do it in a pretty, intuitive way? Are any of the paid ones worth the money? Or should I just get over the \"quick bar?\" What's your solution?", "group_id": 97, "id": 265880}, {"user_id": 17013, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299205410.777518, "message": "I thought I liked the auto complete for @ but then realized it doesn't list my followers it lists new people to follow.", "group_id": 97, "id": 265934}, {"user_id": 17013, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299205439.8825409, "message": "maybe I will go back when I dry the tears off my face. LOL", "group_id": 97, "id": 265940}, {"user_id": 13826, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299205991.7602811, "message": "You can always restore the previous version of the app if you haven't emptied your Trash since updating it.", "group_id": 97, "id": 266017}, {"user_id": 4070, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299211218.2568469, "message": "@benwong Oh, that's a good idea. I think I did, but I can Time Machine it.", "group_id": 97, "id": 266404}, {"user_id": 18425, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299217330.2033341, "message": "True, true, also some services that are free just can't get the funding to actually get to their full potential.", "group_id": 97, "id": 266973}, {"user_id": 9233, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299216608.776288, "message": "(that was fast btw :o)", "group_id": 97, "id": 266900}, {"user_id": 17968, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299216866.3526621, "message": "The thing is, though, I know this is in an effort to help monetize the platform. I want to see Twitter become successful. It seems like such a quick fix to drop promoted items in the iPhone app and help drive up value for advertisers. I can totally see that logic. The problem for me is that it's an advertiser-centric logic (it would appear) and not user-centric. I'm used to Twitter being more user-centric. Frankly, I'd be right in line to pay for a premium account on Twitter if it went add/sponsored/promoted free, and maybe through in verified account status. Am I nuts?", "group_id": 97, "id": 266933}, {"user_id": 18425, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299216643.919517, "message": "The quick bar really doesn't bug me to much when I use the twitter app.", "group_id": 97, "id": 266907}, {"user_id": 13668, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299215806.703691, "message": "Osfoora is a great app. I've been using it for a long time. Worth the price.", "group_id": 97, "id": 266823}, {"user_id": 4791, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299215916.9502721, "message": "Did they put the quick bar in the iPad app?", "group_id": 97, "id": 266836}, {"user_id": 17968, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299217227.779722, "message": "Good lord. I just re-read my post and realized that I can't spell worth beans. Sorry about that. I think you're right about helping out Twitter though -- there's a good bit of me that wants to pay just to feel more like I have a service I can trust. I'm trying not to count on too many services I can't actually *pay* for since the freebies tend to burn me by... I dunno... folding.", "group_id": 97, "id": 266959}, {"user_id": 9233, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299216635.793745, "message": "Or get a real iPhone client: Icebird or Weet (the latter being a much more simplistic but gorgeous app)", "group_id": 97, "id": 266906}, {"user_id": 18425, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299216993.1006989, "message": "I don't know lol. :P I might think about getting a premium account but just to hep out twitter. I really don't see the big deal about this bar. Maybe I am just broke.", "group_id": 97, "id": 266939}, {"user_id": 18425, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299216811.536792, "message": "I don't know if it is just for me, but the bar is not causing any problems for me. The only thing it does is not let me see one less tweet. That really isn't a problem for me that much.", "group_id": 97, "id": 266926}, {"user_id": 17968, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299216687.1301799, "message": "I went back to Twitterrific. I couldn't do it. I tried. I tried to convince myself that people were overreacting. But I just couldn't do it. Way too annoying.", "group_id": 97, "id": 266917}, {"user_id": 9233, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299271667.8725641, "user_id": 1661}], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299216602.0147979, "message": "Jailbreak your iPhone an get this: http://rad.st/4ylY (Twizzler)", "group_id": 97, "id": 266897}, {"user_id": 18780, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299268832.689404, "message": "The only good thing about the new version is the fact that it auto completes usernames when you write a tweet. The rest of the upgrades sucks.", "group_id": 97, "id": 272331}, {"user_id": 4070, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299271526.055289, "message": "I just Time Machine'd back to the previous verison. Did you see @twittermobile's cute tweet today? \"Hey iPhone users: Thanks for the feedback! We always use your comments, along with data, to plan changes. Stay tuned!\"", "group_id": 97, "id": 272594}, {"user_id": 1661, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299271704.9577899, "message": "Go back to SMS? *ducks*", "group_id": 97, "id": 272613}, {"user_id": 3417, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299308666.459621, "user_id": 1}], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299298498.55301, "message": "So glad I don't update regularly :-D", "group_id": 97, "id": 275057}, {"user_id": 18275, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299307263.7467799, "message": "Use Osfoora.", "group_id": 97, "id": 275313}, {"user_id": 18275, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299310744.642781, "user_id": 1}], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299310700.102937, "message": "RT @dwineman Uninstall Twitter 3.3. Sync. Drag Twitter 3.2.2.ipa from trash onto iTunes icon. Click Replace. Re-check in Apps tab. Sync. You're welcome.", "group_id": 97, "id": 275397}, {"user_id": 227, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299313209.685477, "message": "Time for Ditto!", "group_id": 97, "id": 275440}, {"user_id": 9445, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299394870.2209339, "user_id": 1}], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299394824.078896, "message": "I think it's a good policy to reserve judgment on new versions of sites for 2-3 days after you've had some time to test it.  When I was walking around today, the quickbar showed trending topics *nearby*, which I thought was really cool", "group_id": 97, "id": 278864}, {"user_id": 15929, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299397896.4577031, "message": "http://twitter.com/SG/status/44200177090838529 good news?", "group_id": 97, "id": 279035}, {"user_id": 2293, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299407819.9477389, "message": "I've heard Tweeting's is a decent alternative.", "group_id": 97, "id": 279402}, {"user_id": 2293, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299407359.348716, "message": "I've had zero issues with the update. On initial load, I generally see the bar overlaid at the top but as soon I begin to scroll it goes out of view and is docked at the very top of the list. I'm fine with how it is, but I know many aren't..", "group_id": 97, "id": 279337}, {"user_id": 2293, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299407366.294848, "message": "It won't bother me if it's left in or taken out. :)", "group_id": 97, "id": 279339}, {"user_id": 18257, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299407655.9804859, "message": "I like Osfoora the Twitter bar was distracting for me.", "group_id": 97, "id": 279375}, {"user_id": 2293, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299407834.0336659, "message": "And it includes PUSH.", "group_id": 97, "id": 279406}, {"user_id": 17124, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299414700.098938, "message": "My first reaction after the update was \"wtf, has my iPhone been pwned or somethhing?\" But after that, I have no problems with the Twitter client, although the grey promo bar is indeed annoying. Hopefully we can opt out after the next update, or hopefully they make it a bit more subtle.", "group_id": 97, "id": 280001}, {"user_id": 1198, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299462153.3306389, "user_id": 1}], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299462114.8361299, "message": "The thing to realize here is that Twitter is a free service.  They've got to monetize somehow.  And yes, whereas the quickbar can be quite annoying at the moment, they've already submitted an update to the App Store that will only put it at the top, no longer floating over tweets.  Granted, this isn't removing it entirely, but it will at least improve the experience around it.", "group_id": 97, "id": 283346}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299462204.1061001, "message": "@mattgalligan it'll be interesting to see what that update does", "group_id": 97, "id": 283352}, {"user_id": 19214, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299461441.024838, "message": "I'm partial to Osfoora for my iPhone and iPad Twitter client use. I still use Hootsuite too but have found it's performance to be lagging as of late.", "group_id": 97, "id": 283299}, {"user_id": 17124, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299490158.1929431, "message": "I for one was referiing to the apparently updated version, where the annoyance is fixed at the top. A similar floating annoyance would have ended up my getting rid of the app. I am also not that convinced that that kind of thing will help in the monetizing part. To succeed, they should aim for cool rather than annoying.", "group_id": 97, "id": 286486}, {"user_id": 19382, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299525193.167192, "message": "@mg you think they aren't monetizing the shit out of twitter? its one of the most popular services in the *world* just because its free to users don't think they ain't raking in the cash", "group_id": 97, "id": 289823}, {"user_id": 2723, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299528047.003355, "message": "I've used Seesmic on iPhone, Windows Phone 7 and the desktop for 6 months or so and haven't looked back", "group_id": 97, "id": 290387}, {"user_id": 9108, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299548211.2805591, "message": "@tylergillies They're doing some monetization, but I wouldn't so quickly claim they are \"monetizing the shit out of\" it. One of the big challenges Twitter has faced since they started was a good way to monetize, so I'm expecting a lot more. It wasn't even until last spring that they really started to focus on that: http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/14/twitter-execs-address-the-big-question-monetization/", "group_id": 97, "id": 292982}, {"user_id": 4070, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299738891.510253, "user_id": 141}], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299656751.5726459, "message": "For the record, #Dickbar2 is out. They pegged it to the top of the stream, and now I actually, ironically, kind of love it. It will discourage me from frantically refreshing at the top of the stream, and now that it's out of the way, it's kind of nice to know what Twitter is talking about... kind of.", "group_id": 97, "id": 302526}, {"user_id": 15929, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299683073.652458, "message": "updated mine... now it's just kept on crashing", "group_id": 97, "id": 305487}, {"user_id": 3094, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299709962.7105319, "message": "I use TweetAgora, and have for almost a year. Disclaimer: my friend is the dev, but it's an awesome app that does things I haven't seen anywhere else", "group_id": 97, "id": 309072}, {"user_id": 18257, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299772214.256916, "message": "I deleted the Twitter app there are plenty of other good twitter apps out there.", "group_id": 97, "id": 314383}, {"user_id": 2360, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299798979.754251, "message": "Use osfoora :)", "group_id": 97, "id": 317501}, {"user_id": 2360, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299799035.1055739, "message": "Also weetapp is very nice", "group_id": 97, "id": 317509}, {"user_id": 17610, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299802980.568186, "message": "I like Twittelator, Echofon and Seesmic.", "group_id": 97, "id": 317872}, {"user_id": 20470, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299802784.8582649, "message": "I'm still using the official app, but I also use Osfoora...", "group_id": 97, "id": 317832}, {"user_id": 13623, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299806237.813195, "message": "I really like Twitterrific. Both iPhone and Mac.", "group_id": 97, "id": 318207}, {"user_id": 13501, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299826713.8819211, "message": "Go to your trash bin or recycle bin, grab that Twitter 3.2.ipa, and you get to go", "group_id": 97, "id": 320163}, {"user_id": 9108, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299947506.7777791, "message": "According to their new \"Developer Roadmap\" there may not be many more choices to pick from. http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-api-announce/browse_thread/thread/c82cd59c7a87216a?hl=en\n\nIn particular, this quote is pretty blunt: \"Developers have told us that they\u2019d like more guidance from us about the best opportunities to build on Twitter.  More specifically, developers ask us if they should build client apps that mimic or reproduce the mainstream Twitter consumer client experience.  The answer is no. \"", "group_id": 97, "id": 333277}, {"user_id": 4070, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299955753.9304309, "message": "Yeah, it's looking grim for lots of developers, and I understand any outrage over that. But overall, honestly, it seems like a good move. Clearly, the only way Twitter can monetize is by controlling the tweet stream, so now, they're going all in. They have to provide the best, most consistent Twitter experience across all platforms. If they can't, someone's going to start a competitor, using all the lessons we've all learned about Twitter's lack of a mission, and everybody's going to move there.", "group_id": 97, "id": 334728}, {"user_id": 21102, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299972698.356334, "message": "Hey Guys,", "group_id": 97, "id": 337665}, {"user_id": 21102, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299972713.934885, "message": "Does Anyone Like The New Twitter For iPhone?", "group_id": 97, "id": 337670}, {"user_id": 9108, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1299974431.630331, "message": "@JonMwords I can see it as a very good move... for Twitter. It's more than a little ridiculous, though, for all of the devs who made the system as usable and popular as it is today with their apps when the official site was painfully bad.", "group_id": 97, "id": 337738}, {"user_id": 3596, "stars": [], "topic_id": 10693, "date_created": 1300004865.6085031, "message": "Gotta say that the msg to devs is very poorly worded. The idea that third parties shouldn't \" mimic or reproduce the mainstream Twitter consumer client experience\" isn't all bad if parsed correctly. Why do we need 800 variations on a timeline? Something that works radically different, like a flipboard, is more valuable to the ecosystem.", "group_id": 97, "id": 339599}]