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[{"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297361789.441021, "message": "will you be working on Mockle in the near future?", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72291}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297361085.2674329, "message": "so, on a first read of your post to the ML and timeless Mockle is page-oriented?", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72172}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297361358.6972549, "message": "I'm guessing there's a lot of js involved", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72217}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297362161.8596959, "message": "WYSIWYG?", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72365}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297361425.3212399, "message": "layouts contain a '<mockle html=\"template\"></mockle>' which will be replaced with the content", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72229}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297361463.417712, "message": "you'll need a <script src=\"mockle.js\"> in all templates", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72233}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297361520.1098881, "message": "so don't care about the syntax, only the semantics", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72240}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297361463.6628809, "message": "hhmm", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72234}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297361614.8763461, "message": "effigy seems like a nice idea, but also a bit of legwork to get started?", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72258}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297362040.5508089, "message": "nice :)", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72330}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297361347.9493279, "message": "how would you do layout and partials magic and still make them viewable on the browser?", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72216}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297361449.2641511, "message": "s/topic/top of a template/", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72231}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297361687.167423, "message": "if you're not going to care about that, why not use a less verbose Mustache-ish syntax?", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72274}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297361296.3903069, "message": "yeah, but it must support partials and layouts too", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72206}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297361611.1128359, "message": "<span mockle-text=\"username\">judofyr</span>", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72257}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297361871.2120881, "message": "I have some code locally (layout, partials essentially) which also works across domains", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72305}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297361525.0964351, "message": "html-based like effigy?", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72241}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297361729.910718, "message": "i see", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72282}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297362353.864001, "message": "because in reality, when it comes to modifying the layout, they are not really separated at all", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72403}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297361404.5598309, "message": "put this at the topic to use a layout: '<script src=\"mockle.js\">{\"layout\":\"layout.html\"}</script>'", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72223}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297362220.1743181, "message": "yeah", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72379}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297362227.522182, "message": "sidebar with an outline of the DOM", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72381}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297362232.83933, "message": "think nested list", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72382}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297362462.592859, "message": "brb!", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72427}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297361310.830138, "message": "but yeah, like a mockup you'll end up with several .html-files", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72208}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297361589.7983699, "message": "yeah", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72254}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297361642.9386189, "message": "nice idea, but you don't really get the best features of MDD: you can't open it in the browser", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72263}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297361910.3557739, "message": "but I'm not actively developing it", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72313}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297361485.1763189, "message": "I still haven't decided about the syntax though (HTML-based or Mustache-based)", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72235}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297362055.1914279, "message": "I'm all for crazy ideas", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72333}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297362216.782419, "message": "or split panes?", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72378}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297362266.1265521, "message": "hhmm", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72386}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297361894.8513861, "message": "(needed because newer versions of Chrome/Firefox don't allow XHR on localhost)", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72310}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297362081.7248809, "message": "but Mockle can easily fit into any project in any language for any designer", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72343}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297362316.107065, "message": "yeah", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72395}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297362010.7643499, "message": "I also have some other crazy idea for template engines/writing HTML", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72326}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297362102.7531121, "message": "so if I can help with something or just cheerlead xD", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72352}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297362194.5040159, "message": "hmm so a mix then", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72373}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297362134.1553161, "message": "the crazy ideas are more like creating a completely new HTML editor in the browser :P", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72361}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297362167.1451571, "message": "nope", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72366}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297362276.0861931, "message": "like Chrome's \"inspect element\" but editable?", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72388}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297362429.724328, "message": "I like the idea, fast workflow and turn around", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72417}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297362474.7233789, "message": "and I'm out, ttyl", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72431}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297362178.556895, "message": "you still write HTML/CSS but you write it while you see", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72367}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297362331.829812, "message": "and you edit HTML and CSS the same place", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72398}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297362440.0066271, "message": "coupled with mockle it'd be mean ass", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72420}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297365246.8638721, "message": "resources: http://timeless.judofyr.net/mockup-driven-development", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72903}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1297365276.7645741, "message": "older discussion: http://groups.google.com/group/guardians-of-the-temple/browse_thread/thread/b106b9c4c94609c5", "group_id": 1947, "id": 72917}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1299190345.448889, "message": "I was just reading the RMU interview, so you have a prototype working? that's nice", "group_id": 1947, "id": 264541}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1299190924.495832, "message": "are you going public wid'it anytime soon?", "group_id": 1947, "id": 264606}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1299190421.8485551, "message": "but it does it cross-site :)", "group_id": 1947, "id": 264556}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1299190432.3729849, "message": "that's pretty spiffy :D", "group_id": 1947, "id": 264558}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1299191515.2508759, "message": "nah, need to figure out the rest of the syntax", "group_id": 1947, "id": 264675}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1299190401.7131469, "message": "well, it only injects templates/layouts", "group_id": 1947, "id": 264553}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1299190439.9151039, "message": "(which means that it works on the file system in Chrome)", "group_id": 1947, "id": 264560}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1299194797.875509, "message": "I was trying to run the specs on github-js, heh", "group_id": 1947, "id": 264999}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1299194898.6827741, "message": "then partial.html will do a simple innerHTML, and do: <iframe src=\"page.html\" name=\"result:insert-inner-html-here\">", "group_id": 1947, "id": 265006}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1299194770.2663479, "message": "yup", "group_id": 1947, "id": 264994}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1299194008.7606609, "message": "looking forward to it xO", "group_id": 1947, "id": 264907}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1299194946.009515, "message": "which is a function defined by the first page.html", "group_id": 1947, "id": 265009}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1299195203.766844, "message": "cd directory; python -m SimpleHTTPServer; open localhost:8000", "group_id": 1947, "id": 265022}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1299194468.830008, "message": "in chrome: XMLHttpRequest cannot load file://blabla/spec.core.js. Cross origin requests are only supported for HTTP.", "group_id": 1947, "id": 264974}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1299194479.9723361, "message": "this is the cross-site problem you were mentioning before, right?", "group_id": 1947, "id": 264975}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1299195378.5685439, "message": "oh i see", "group_id": 1947, "id": 265034}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1299194789.7485039, "message": "I'm solving it using window.name as a transport", "group_id": 1947, "id": 264997}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1299194851.0891991, "message": "so if page.html must load partial.html, it inserts <iframe src=\"partial.html\" name=\"send:page.html\">", "group_id": 1947, "id": 265004}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1299194931.091162, "message": "then page.html will load again, but this time it will just call window.parent.parent.RECEIVED_CONTENT(inner-html)", "group_id": 1947, "id": 265007}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1299195157.317049, "message": "that seems a good 'workaround'. is there any other way to 'fix' chrome? I also have that problem in a .NET app I'm building", "group_id": 1947, "id": 265018}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1299195193.7593241, "message": "chrome doesn't want to run the script, and IE tries to debug itself and crashes", "group_id": 1947, "id": 265021}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1299195314.6115501, "message": "in the folder with the scripts?", "group_id": 1947, "id": 265031}, {"user_id": 1855, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1299195438.025635, "message": "expected 'function (){}' to be 'function () {}' *facepalm*", "group_id": 1947, "id": 265042}, {"user_id": 1516, "stars": [], "topic_id": 3782, "date_created": 1299195367.027246, "message": "it just starts a web server in that directory, so you get the \"normal\" XHR behaviour in chrome", "group_id": 1947, "id": 265033}] |