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[{"user_id": 18347, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304298349.468981, "message": "Hi that's my project :) hope you like it, would be awesome if you have any suggestions", "group_id": 81, "id": 879312}, {"user_id": 22943, "stars": [{"date_created": 1304353953.1923051, "user_id": 18347}], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304308837.5553639, "message": "Amazing will test it and report to you !", "group_id": 81, "id": 880019}, {"user_id": 15162, "stars": [{"date_created": 1304353954.349443, "user_id": 18347}], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304318289.13729, "message": "looks really useful - but why a web interface? I would much prefer to use this as a CLI script since it only really gives you a bunch of boxes to tick anyway", "group_id": 81, "id": 880840}, {"user_id": 20816, "stars": [{"date_created": 1304333830.1847019, "user_id": 18347}], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304319949.1825311, "message": "I think it would be cool to customise tools/utils section by providing github's (or other publick repo) link for custom project.", "group_id": 81, "id": 880985}, {"user_id": 12817, "stars": [{"date_created": 1304351599.0542679, "user_id": 18347}, {"date_created": 1304804522.191395, "user_id": 14057}], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304326519.1358459, "message": "Looks good! Another suggestion might be to add things that are perhaps external to Django but still essential/useful to a Django project, eg a Fabric fabfile, Sphinx docs (with sphinx.ext.autodoc set up), etc", "group_id": 81, "id": 881563}, {"user_id": 13006, "stars": [{"date_created": 1304351599.8057959, "user_id": 18347}, {"date_created": 1304407642.3581159, "user_id": 20816}], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304337219.6030159, "message": "Hey it would be cool if this could integrate some how with djangopackages.com. Also may be we could a flavor specific to pinax?", "group_id": 81, "id": 882229}, {"user_id": 13325, "stars": [{"date_created": 1304351601.0064421, "user_id": 18347}], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304345827.1265171, "message": "From a design standpoint, it confused me for a second that the about is collapsed. I think something short and then a more would be much more helpful.", "group_id": 81, "id": 883447}, {"user_id": 18347, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304352443.759254, "message": "maybe I could enable the creation of \"custom packages\" where the user writes their own installation config file?", "group_id": 81, "id": 885169}, {"user_id": 18347, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304350338.359992, "message": "Hi thanks for the feedback, loads of great advice.", "group_id": 81, "id": 884642}, {"user_id": 18347, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304352298.097204, "message": "@realchrisdev it would be hard to automatically define a what to do to install each project, but I could add the possibility of appending files to the pip requirements file using djangopackages.com . Alternatively I have defined a setup script file that could be written for each package e.g.", "group_id": 81, "id": 885117}, {"user_id": 18347, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304352349.0300059, "message": "\tpip_project_requirements: |\n\t    django-taggit\n\tsettings:\n\t    installed_apps: |\n\t        taggit", "group_id": 81, "id": 885138}, {"user_id": 11646, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304353783.8994811, "message": "You could provide a way for package developers to append their project-related setup. Maybe using templates or some kind of script.", "group_id": 81, "id": 885417}, {"user_id": 18347, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304355174.8484199, "message": "@ricobl mmmh, you mean the base project structure? I guess I should find a way to do that, as it is a great idea. :)", "group_id": 81, "id": 885678}, {"user_id": 18347, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304353935.892596, "message": "@adambrenecki any suggestions on how I should default the fabfile?", "group_id": 81, "id": 885451}, {"user_id": 11646, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304358819.234581, "message": "And you could provide an API or something.", "group_id": 81, "id": 886589}, {"user_id": 11646, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304358778.7751861, "message": "@jamespaxi Yes, each developer could maintain how his project should be installed.", "group_id": 81, "id": 886582}, {"user_id": 18347, "stars": [{"date_created": 1304510855.3504729, "user_id": 11646}], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304374868.911833, "message": "@ricobl ok, have written those down on my todo :) btw after the second iteration gets done, I'll likely open source it", "group_id": 81, "id": 890358}, {"user_id": 12817, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304498827.4855881, "message": "(I also have a few others, for instance ones that compile Sass to CSS and ones that concatenate a whole bunch of uncompressed JS, compress it, then concatenate with some already-compressed JS)", "group_id": 81, "id": 910759}, {"user_id": 12817, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304498602.7437451, "message": "@jamespaxi Almost every Django project I make has a <projectname>/, media/, and templates/ directory, and a fabfile that contains methods to a) pack the <projectname>/ and media/ dirs into gzipped tarballs, b) upload them to some remote server, c) unpack them, d) reload the server (this one would depend on what's running underneath Django on the particular server) and e) do all four of the above in one go.", "group_id": 81, "id": 910717}, {"user_id": 12817, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304498705.583163, "message": "Also, other methods in the fabfile that uploads the contents of the media/ directory to wherever my static media is hosted, exactly how this works depends on whether I'm using S3 + Cloudfront, a regular Unix server where I can tar-upload-untar, or something else.", "group_id": 81, "id": 910736}, {"user_id": 12817, "stars": [{"date_created": 1304747076.933042, "user_id": 18347}], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304499003.9805291, "message": "But this is probably something every Django dev does differently, so I suppose you could either go with a baseline fabfile, or maybe make the methods included in the fabfile selectable under a \"Fabfile\" heading?", "group_id": 81, "id": 910787}, {"user_id": 11646, "stars": [{"date_created": 1304747070.206321, "user_id": 18347}], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304510871.1243401, "message": "@jamespaxi Great! Very nice to hear that!", "group_id": 81, "id": 912134}, {"user_id": 18347, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304703157.213515, "message": "Hopefully I'll have another release on Sunday and maybe the open source candidate next or the following weekend :) I hope there are a few people that would be willing to join up on this one!", "group_id": 81, "id": 944285}, {"user_id": 18347, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304702941.3239641, "message": "@adambrenecki hi thanks a lot for the great advice, hopefully I should have something close to the baseline structure you are suggesting, which makes perfect sense. I reckon that going down the customisation route migh be a bit tricky f", "group_id": 81, "id": 944250}, {"user_id": 18347, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304703039.5279491, "message": "For now as I don't hav much time to ge everything done, hopefully onc I open source we could get together with a few peeps and map out a bigger todo list and maybe take the other stuff you mentioned in the code :)", "group_id": 81, "id": 944268}, {"user_id": 209, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304708097.1104879, "message": "@jamespaxi What's the reasoning for not making what you have today available as open-source?", "group_id": 81, "id": 944876}, {"user_id": 18347, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304708565.8138039, "message": "@issakelly do I need to justify myself? :)", "group_id": 81, "id": 944965}, {"user_id": 209, "stars": [{"date_created": 1304747064.3925321, "user_id": 18347}], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304709940.9252219, "message": "@jamespaxi  No not at all, I did the same thing, just curious, and I'm really interested in the project, and making my apps fit your framework", "group_id": 81, "id": 945192}, {"user_id": 18347, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304708668.5167971, "message": "@issackelly ^ can't delete or edit on the iPad :)", "group_id": 81, "id": 944987}, {"user_id": 18347, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304709246.763787, "message": "To answer the question the code is not ready, the project was a quick prototype so needs to be reorganised and refactored a bit, or open source contributions will end up being wasted. Need a solid ramp first, then we can all jump. Hope this makes sense to everyone reading.", "group_id": 81, "id": 945063}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [{"date_created": 1304747049.7166569, "user_id": 18347}], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304746307.3602149, "message": "@jamespaxi you know that basically everything... starts on the front page :)", "group_id": 81, "id": 949042}, {"user_id": 18347, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304745162.5151899, "message": "omg djangocanvas.com hit HackerNews front page! http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2522629 awesome!! :)", "group_id": 81, "id": 948986}, {"user_id": 18347, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304745221.881335, "message": "@issackelly I will try getting it sorted soon hopefully!! :) What apps where you thinking of adding?", "group_id": 81, "id": 948992}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [{"date_created": 1304748630.1064391, "user_id": 18347}, {"date_created": 1304748743.039325, "user_id": 205}], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304748597.861625, "message": "@jamespaxi what if you integrate more defacto standards (ala django-startproject) to help people get better starting apps as well -- one big thing I think we're missing is education on how to build a good reusable app", "group_id": 81, "id": 949108}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304748609.1962199, "message": "and I struggle every day trying to make my apps reusable -- stupid distutils/setuptools/pip/etc :(", "group_id": 81, "id": 949110}, {"user_id": 18347, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304746612.1387789, "message": "@zeeg but does not stay :) main thing is that someone else shared it, so just that makes me happy", "group_id": 81, "id": 949054}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304748270.707118, "message": "@jamespaxi I'm actually more and more confused about what the various projects listed on the page are?", "group_id": 81, "id": 949091}, {"user_id": 18347, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304748454.352612, "message": "@zeeg they are just the django apps, the site builds a base poject with settings, urls, etc...,  pip requirements and virtualenv setup", "group_id": 81, "id": 949097}, {"user_id": 18347, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304748692.348424, "message": "@zeeg thanks David, I'll compute your suggestion once I've computed \"system reboot\", my brain is malfunctioning :D", "group_id": 81, "id": 949113}, {"user_id": 18347, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304748538.9869151, "message": "@zeeg I'm not competing with djangopackages btw, I'm probably going to use their api eventually. Suggestions from the legendary David would be great :)", "group_id": 81, "id": 949102}, {"user_id": 18347, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304748598.2052779, "message": "the birds have started singing here in London, good sign to run off to bed :)", "group_id": 81, "id": 949109}, {"user_id": 1127, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304748666.204664, "message": "and ya, good time to sleep :)", "group_id": 81, "id": 949112}, {"user_id": 8444, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304777481.9972141, "message": "nice work, james, i like how you're thinking ;)", "group_id": 81, "id": 951004}, {"user_id": 209, "stars": [], "topic_id": 33094, "date_created": 1304784784.4168241, "message": "@jamespaxi - I write/maintain an alternate admin made for frontend editing called servee.  We're more or less in an alpha build right now. http://github.com/servee/servee I'd love to have djangocanvas, to integrate with it, and to sort of run my own version too", "group_id": 81, "id": 951388}]