convore.json/groups/freebsd/puppet-vs-chef-for-freebsd/messages.json

[{"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296587183.9888721, "message": "i know 1 person who has actually used it", "group_id": 101, "id": 41227}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296587324.9754901, "message": "i found it a year or two ago", "group_id": 101, "id": 41229}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296587086.4298069, "message": "yeah :P", "group_id": 101, "id": 41225}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585084.41465, "message": "I am (slowly) working on a mirror set of posts to Eric Holscher's Chef setup", "group_id": 101, "id": 41133}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585242.0285749, "message": "i can navigate my way around freebsd, use ports, i've read the manual, i get jails", "group_id": 101, "id": 41139}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585260.3510721, "message": "but i let most of the heavy lifting (kernel tinkering, etc) to our sysadmin guru", "group_id": 101, "id": 41140}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585368.7644219, "message": "wow, do you guys hire remote admins? :D", "group_id": 101, "id": 41149}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585672.1852281, "message": "oh so you guys are running compat?", "group_id": 101, "id": 41164}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585750.234524, "message": "kernel reboot + installing multiprocessing by hand/hacking the setup.py file", "group_id": 101, "id": 41173}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296586303.729763, "message": "it's been a lot of capistrano+prayer before that", "group_id": 101, "id": 41196}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585035.478112, "message": "/me works on Chef all day at work", "group_id": 101, "id": 41130}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585063.303097, "message": "and, though I would never use either software's server setup, Chef's server is about 4bil times worse than Puppets :)", "group_id": 101, "id": 41131}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585088.5789371, "message": "only using puppet", "group_id": 101, "id": 41134}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585168.899761, "message": "i'm really itching to write up a few posts on nginx, followed by a \"a neophyte's entry into freebsd\"", "group_id": 101, "id": 41135}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585731.5475171, "message": "semaphore support was the biggest hackness we had to do when we were running python 2.5", "group_id": 101, "id": 41171}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585765.3153639, "message": "ah", "group_id": 101, "id": 41176}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296586110.749342, "message": "What are you guys using for configuration management?", "group_id": 101, "id": 41189}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296584901.5897801, "message": "I prefer Puppet across the board, though they complain about BSD packaging.", "group_id": 101, "id": 41119}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296584920.8507099, "message": "I don't think I've even tried Chef on FreeBSD, but I find Chef to be limited in comparison, so...", "group_id": 101, "id": 41121}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296584944.225687, "message": "Cons for Chef:", "group_id": 101, "id": 41123}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296584949.773525, "message": "no dry-run", "group_id": 101, "id": 41124}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296584977.1533949, "message": "breaks the ruby language", "group_id": 101, "id": 41126}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585012.081223, "message": "required ordering of cookbooks is fragile", "group_id": 101, "id": 41128}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585063.4622819, "message": "interesting to hear", "group_id": 101, "id": 41132}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585269.5951459, "message": "but i'd like to get better", "group_id": 101, "id": 41141}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585284.167412, "message": "esp with regards to security magic (hi PF how are you)", "group_id": 101, "id": 41142}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585295.5327539, "message": "pf is amazing", "group_id": 101, "id": 41143}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585340.8830521, "message": "so you guys run FreeBSD at Mahalo?", "group_id": 101, "id": 41145}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585343.5002201, "message": "it just seems like a shame that linux has a much (better?) vocal community. i'd like to try and fix that for freebsd", "group_id": 101, "id": 41146}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585346.3933361, "message": "asenchi: 99.9%", "group_id": 101, "id": 41147}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585371.864835, "message": "nope", "group_id": 101, "id": 41150}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585375.1838109, "message": ":D", "group_id": 101, "id": 41151}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585395.0905781, "message": "what made you guys switch?", "group_id": 101, "id": 41154}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585399.889235, "message": "how many servers you have?", "group_id": 101, "id": 41155}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585936.5177851, "message": "other than giving them token money every then not really :/", "group_id": 101, "id": 41182}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585943.469439, "message": "and making it obvious we use freebsd as best we can", "group_id": 101, "id": 41183}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585952.7008159, "message": "those are both good :)", "group_id": 101, "id": 41184}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296586295.308275, "message": "they're just starting to use puppet for things", "group_id": 101, "id": 41195}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296584887.315053, "message": "hey look a new topic", "group_id": 101, "id": 41117}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585457.2420931, "message": "~150 or so?", "group_id": 101, "id": 41157}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585603.116184, "message": "and you were debian before? So are you guys hacking in kqueue support everywhere?", "group_id": 101, "id": 41160}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585631.722517, "message": "asenchi: with the 2.6 port making semaphore support a config option we haven't had to do a whole lot of hackery", "group_id": 101, "id": 41162}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585641.3544121, "message": "it's not like we were really going to use tornando seriously or anything like that", "group_id": 101, "id": 41163}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585860.513993, "message": "Are you guys involved with the freebsd project at all?", "group_id": 101, "id": 41181}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585969.877682, "message": "and maybe me writing these damn blog posts one day", "group_id": 101, "id": 41185}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296586557.515465, "message": "Ah", "group_id": 101, "id": 41206}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296586989.094739, "message": "yeah, that is my understanding also", "group_id": 101, "id": 41216}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296587014.5843239, "message": "http://codespeak.net/execnet/", "group_id": 101, "id": 41219}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296587026.4533019, "message": "imo, i want to set this up and write a python lib for freebsd", "group_id": 101, "id": 41221}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296587043.3373799, "message": "you can call into server's python and run stuff", "group_id": 101, "id": 41223}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296584929.3994329, "message": "any reason? jacobian was in town advocating for chef (although not very loudly)", "group_id": 101, "id": 41122}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296584965.1489041, "message": "too structured", "group_id": 101, "id": 41125}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296584990.4638269, "message": "not enough resources, and setting up providers is messy", "group_id": 101, "id": 41127}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585024.242981, "message": "and honestly, the way it loads cookbooks is super silly to me.", "group_id": 101, "id": 41129}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585195.6084499, "message": "yeah, same on the freebsd front.", "group_id": 101, "id": 41136}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585211.3611219, "message": "once it hits ec2, theres really no reason not to use it", "group_id": 101, "id": 41137}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585310.3760531, "message": "i've used it for about 10 years now", "group_id": 101, "id": 41144}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585359.372323, "message": "one debian machine left", "group_id": 101, "id": 41148}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585379.3143401, "message": "hope you like la!", "group_id": 101, "id": 41152}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585389.9186749, "message": "man wish i could move. would love to work on freebsd all day", "group_id": 101, "id": 41153}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585452.968821, "message": "we were setting up a new DC years ago and had to pick something. aaron had just started, and he got his way", "group_id": 101, "id": 41156}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585513.7655461, "message": "that is awesome.", "group_id": 101, "id": 41158}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585575.7096951, "message": "it's had it's moments, but again, it's usually not the OS but open source projects using epoll or some linux-specific async disk write technology where we get stuck", "group_id": 101, "id": 41159}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585699.7738609, "message": "no?", "group_id": 101, "id": 41166}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585703.216567, "message": "now i'm confused", "group_id": 101, "id": 41167}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585710.154177, "message": "i think i may be also.", "group_id": 101, "id": 41169}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296585768.14395, "message": "i see now", "group_id": 101, "id": 41177}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296586374.6663439, "message": "i should get some stuff published, perhaps that would be helpful. Would be interested in seeing what issues you guys run into with Puppet. Hoping to try and make Puppet more acceptable on FreeBSD (though it works pretty well right now)", "group_id": 101, "id": 41199}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296586420.544229, "message": "they're digging it a lot", "group_id": 101, "id": 41201}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296586430.6397221, "message": "i'm hoping to hack fabric to hell one day so i don't have to use ruby in that area", "group_id": 101, "id": 41202}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296586439.8409719, "message": "then when i'm rich and bored i'll write an acceptable config management in python", "group_id": 101, "id": 41203}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296586448.881701, "message": "yeah fabric should fit in pretty well.", "group_id": 101, "id": 41204}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296586501.1496129, "message": "it's its singlethread nature and lack of gateway support that are hidnering us from using it right now", "group_id": 101, "id": 41205}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296587171.251832, "message": "i think it's a secret mostly, but imo it seems like a dream piece of software", "group_id": 101, "id": 41226}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296586997.939563, "message": "have you looked into execnet?", "group_id": 101, "id": 41217}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296587020.5892069, "message": "i know jeff wants to switch parimiko out but", "group_id": 101, "id": 41220}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296587081.2962711, "message": "woah", "group_id": 101, "id": 41224}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296586965.5324509, "message": "there's an experimental multiprocessing branch apparently", "group_id": 101, "id": 41212}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296586974.0830131, "message": "yep", "group_id": 101, "id": 41213}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296586976.5525739, "message": "but the way parimiko works makes gateway support not really possible", "group_id": 101, "id": 41214}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296586979.864903, "message": "at least not that i can tell", "group_id": 101, "id": 41215}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296587011.9281721, "message": "i have not", "group_id": 101, "id": 41218}, {"user_id": 228, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1296587260.7251699, "message": "when did it come out?", "group_id": 101, "id": 41228}, {"user_id": 297, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1297466469.721977, "message": "@asenchi I've had alot of issues with puppet on FreeBSD but I haven't tried chef.. yet.", "group_id": 101, "id": 84574}, {"user_id": 297, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1297466518.051194, "message": "skimming over the chef wiki, it looks really.. overwrought.  Is it worth the setup to try out?", "group_id": 101, "id": 84577}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1297533873.6475749, "message": "@theotherjeff what issues have you had? I haven't run into any yet.", "group_id": 101, "id": 87191}, {"user_id": 216, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1297533891.0360439, "message": "@theotherjeff You want to look at chef-solo. IMO don't waste your time with Chef server.", "group_id": 101, "id": 87192}, {"user_id": 6348, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1301549833.3306761, "message": "@theotherjeff What sort of issues? Always interested in tickets/feedback.", "group_id": 101, "id": 488728}, {"user_id": 297, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1301593506.5576229, "message": "@jamtur01 I had issues using the freebsd & ports package providers, they were throwing some funky errors, also, puppet was having trouble starting up the mcollectived service.", "group_id": 101, "id": 494074}, {"user_id": 297, "stars": [], "topic_id": 1564, "date_created": 1301593564.96469, "message": "My attentions have been elsewhere for a while, but when I get a little time I could get a look at the specifics of those errors for you.", "group_id": 101, "id": 494080}]