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[{"user_id": 2597, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298501789.5808189, "message": "I am planning to build a system/web app but not sure whether to use this or not.", "group_id": 95, "id": 192595}, {"user_id": 2597, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298501813.192642, "message": "Please share your thoughts and any decision considerations that made you move", "group_id": 95, "id": 192598}, {"user_id": 2597, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298501778.5257061, "message": "When should you actually start thinking of using a cloud based provider like Rackspace or Amazon EC2? I see that a lot of new startups has been using either one of those technology platform in development.", "group_id": 95, "id": 192592}, {"user_id": 1899, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298502903.744288, "message": "i have vps-es on rackspace, and have used ec2 as well. nowadays i just deploy all of my apps to heroku ;)", "group_id": 95, "id": 192961}, {"user_id": 14607, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298503021.5632131, "message": "we have the same app on both, & plan to abandon ec2 due to much inferior performance.", "group_id": 95, "id": 193023}, {"user_id": 2597, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298504628.8004279, "message": "what I mean by rackspace, is the rackspace cloud", "group_id": 95, "id": 193379}, {"user_id": 1899, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298512832.6381381, "message": "that encompasses three products: cloud servers, cloud storage, and cloud sites. so you mean cloud sites?", "group_id": 95, "id": 194848}, {"user_id": 2597, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298516236.3404419, "message": "as I am just using this \"cloud thing\" for database and web api's (REST)", "group_id": 95, "id": 194964}, {"user_id": 2597, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298516222.819797, "message": "I mean cloud servers", "group_id": 95, "id": 194963}, {"user_id": 13587, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298543788.39012, "message": "@equinox Answer to your original question: When 50% of what you pay for your VPS becomes \"expensive\" ?", "group_id": 95, "id": 196618}, {"user_id": 8502, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298545993.566071, "message": "I use Rackspace Cloud Servers to run all my production apps. Never had any problems nor downtime. If i've ever needed some extra capactiy i just resize and it's sorted in a few minutes. Much cheaper than Amazon from what i've seen", "group_id": 95, "id": 196728}, {"user_id": 2597, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298556801.225688, "message": "maybe I'll use it and stop go daddy", "group_id": 95, "id": 197743}, {"user_id": 2597, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298556660.9846539, "message": "is it common for people to stop their server, take a snapshot and then the following week start the server again", "group_id": 95, "id": 197719}, {"user_id": 2597, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298556792.8998971, "message": "good", "group_id": 95, "id": 197740}, {"user_id": 719, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298556761.3301251, "message": "@equinox I'd say yes.", "group_id": 95, "id": 197734}, {"user_id": 15236, "stars": [{"date_created": 1298583956.698072, "user_id": 2407}, {"date_created": 1298600611.907042, "user_id": 13587}], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298583746.493608, "message": "we use http://linode.com and works flawless...", "group_id": 95, "id": 202475}, {"user_id": 14726, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298584060.454834, "message": "we use ec2 with fab scripts to deploy new boxes when needed, never used rackspace...", "group_id": 95, "id": 202543}, {"user_id": 5713, "stars": [{"date_created": 1298586252.2226479, "user_id": 14726}], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298584593.9599161, "message": "why linode?", "group_id": 95, "id": 202626}, {"user_id": 14726, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298586246.343761, "message": "same here why linode? What's good about it?", "group_id": 95, "id": 202949}, {"user_id": 13587, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298600739.6399789, "message": "@cdmoyer yeah .. amazon is a cloud service provider. Linode is a VPS provider", "group_id": 95, "id": 205094}, {"user_id": 13587, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298600766.9843791, "message": "I LOVE watching the graphs :D", "group_id": 95, "id": 205097}, {"user_id": 12108, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298600831.3073111, "message": "YOu can find half (at least) of the staff in #linode on... efnet? freenode, and they'll help you with sysadmin issues, troubles, keep you abreast of issues.", "group_id": 95, "id": 205104}, {"user_id": 13587, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298600873.733587, "message": "I should probably apply for their PR position, though I have a feeling  @cdmoyer will beat me to it. But either way, they are one AWESOME service.", "group_id": 95, "id": 205106}, {"user_id": 12108, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298600877.552166, "message": "You can get multiple servers in the same data center and not pay internal bandwidth, for building a cluster.  And the regularly just give everyone ram, disk space, etc as costs go down.", "group_id": 95, "id": 205107}, {"user_id": 12108, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298600690.6258931, "message": "I've been using linode for 2 years, only one box, but it servers a variety of live (although low traffic projects.)", "group_id": 95, "id": 205088}, {"user_id": 12108, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298600704.0118849, "message": "There's a couple differences, vs, say amazon.", "group_id": 95, "id": 205090}, {"user_id": 13587, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298600696.1090381, "message": "@rigoneri totally hassle free .. cheap .. upgradable .. though probably not if you are expecting more than a million pageviews a month", "group_id": 95, "id": 205089}, {"user_id": 13587, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298600829.0337141, "message": "not to mention their awesome library ... step by step instructions for most common scenarios", "group_id": 95, "id": 205103}, {"user_id": 12108, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298600727.9267361, "message": "Like, it's a static VPS, so you have to worry a bit less about infrastructure and a box just going away.", "group_id": 95, "id": 205092}, {"user_id": 12108, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298600750.765975, "message": "and bandwidth, disk, io, etc are included so you know the price each month.", "group_id": 95, "id": 205096}, {"user_id": 12108, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298600787.803714, "message": "So, it's probably ideally for most projects to launch.  I mean, I always figure it's a good problem if you need to scramble and scale. ;)", "group_id": 95, "id": 205099}, {"user_id": 12108, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298600797.1329, "message": "And the team there is real people.", "group_id": 95, "id": 205100}, {"user_id": 12108, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298600911.656049, "message": "Yeah, I'm a fan.  I mean, I have clients and projects on EC2 and rackspace and mediatemple and slicehost, too.", "group_id": 95, "id": 205110}, {"user_id": 15382, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298601099.618264, "message": "<3 linode", "group_id": 95, "id": 205134}, {"user_id": 15929, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298638098.195549, "message": "personally i'm on rackspace cloud, because back in the day i think rackspace is cheaper and has better docs (i'm not a sys admin by trade) and now, i'm just too lazy to move everything. however i think now amazon giving free (although limited) for a year right? i think that should affect your choice between the 2.", "group_id": 95, "id": 207540}, {"user_id": 15236, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298643112.3793969, "message": "it seems @cdmoyer have said everything about #linode. Just to mention that we host http://preyproject.com there, supporting millions of hit weekly. No problems so far.", "group_id": 95, "id": 207897}, {"user_id": 14726, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298643192.3866091, "message": "@hijimayor @cdmoyer From your posts it seems that linode is a good place for small start up project, but is 4GB of ram the largest that you can get? That's probably not the best option if you are using mongodb..", "group_id": 95, "id": 207906}, {"user_id": 15929, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298643724.601727, "message": "interesting point @rigoneri, plus checkout the platform oriented services if you have decided on a platform, like heroku for rails, i know a couple for node.js (still in beta and not available for public yet), google appengine, etc.", "group_id": 95, "id": 207987}, {"user_id": 13587, "stars": [], "topic_id": 8494, "date_created": 1298704150.7691481, "message": "@rigoneri if you are using 4GB or RAM, a VPS is already probably not for you. EC2 or rackspace would work out cheaper", "group_id": 95, "id": 212994}]