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[{"user_id": 7716, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576299.146894, "message": "I work the whole stack - front web & backend ... and many are like me....", "group_id": 95, "id": 88333}, {"user_id": 7716, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576422.0047939, "message": "nothing like the troubles of high scale... CS class wont prepare you for that shi*", "group_id": 95, "id": 88344}, {"user_id": 7720, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576758.729636, "message": "hrm.", "group_id": 95, "id": 88348}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297624078.0466969, "user_id": 1128}, {"date_created": 1297706853.8553669, "user_id": 6004}], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576844.2506411, "message": "When I've interviewed people in the past, I start with something web related that's easy, and expect an easy answer.", "group_id": 95, "id": 88351}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297624073.545367, "user_id": 1128}, {"date_created": 1297706861.7330611, "user_id": 6004}], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576905.3713689, "message": "See how they fix it", "group_id": 95, "id": 88355}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576191.5509379, "message": "I think it depends on what kind of developer they want to be.", "group_id": 95, "id": 88321}, {"user_id": 2597, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576217.6766219, "message": "What do you think?", "group_id": 95, "id": 88325}, {"user_id": 2597, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576232.02706, "message": "I mean it's good for hardcore software engineers", "group_id": 95, "id": 88328}, {"user_id": 7716, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576276.5149951, "message": "to me a web developer is not nececerily different than a \"hard core\" developer", "group_id": 95, "id": 88331}, {"user_id": 7716, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576331.8376219, "message": "yeah well, I call my self  a web developer and do PHP, RoR, Java & C#... and most WebDevs I know are the same", "group_id": 95, "id": 88334}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576337.0669789, "message": "I mean yeah, there are problems to solve in any type of development (web or otherwise), but there's not a whole lot of crazy tough problems IMO until you start pushing some kind of boundaries.", "group_id": 95, "id": 88335}, {"user_id": 2597, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576351.038156, "message": "I totally agree with you ericflo", "group_id": 95, "id": 88337}, {"user_id": 2597, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576396.278183, "message": "not just binary search and friends", "group_id": 95, "id": 88343}, {"user_id": 2597, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576448.210573, "message": "I tend to like companies that asks for, what have you built so far rather than solve this super duper extraordinary tough challenging puzzle", "group_id": 95, "id": 88346}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297624075.6919849, "user_id": 1128}, {"date_created": 1297706856.275507, "user_id": 6004}], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576873.9752531, "message": "See how they fix it", "group_id": 95, "id": 88353}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297624074.372715, "user_id": 1128}, {"date_created": 1297706859.2081621, "user_id": 6004}], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576903.347842, "message": "Then I say, ok, now one user decides to go crazy and add 500,000 friends, so their friends list takes forever to load", "group_id": 95, "id": 88354}, {"user_id": 2597, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576212.812393, "message": "I sometimes just don't get it/agree when companies test you with challenging puzzle problems as a test to get into a position in a company. For several reasons, and one of them is that most of the solutions to these problems are already available online and I don't think it really doesn't show how good a programmer is", "group_id": 95, "id": 88323}, {"user_id": 2597, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576277.0582149, "message": "well, the one that does PHP, CSS, AJAX, JQuery, etc, etc", "group_id": 95, "id": 88332}, {"user_id": 2597, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576830.94677, "message": "sometimes I feel stupid that I don't like solving problems like in this site http://www.facebook.com/careers/puzzles.php but I do like to program so much", "group_id": 95, "id": 88350}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576217.4108641, "message": "For most web development, nope.", "group_id": 95, "id": 88324}, {"user_id": 2597, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576239.7675819, "message": "but I don't really see the point, for web developers", "group_id": 95, "id": 88329}, {"user_id": 7716, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576262.217638, "message": "Depends how you define a web developer", "group_id": 95, "id": 88330}, {"user_id": 7716, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297576371.549464, "user_id": 1}, {"date_created": 1297615370.4090691, "user_id": 8327}], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576360.7678599, "message": "I seem to hit those boundaries almost every day :p", "group_id": 95, "id": 88338}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576380.766876, "message": "@chekofif That's how you know you're doing it right, maybe?", "group_id": 95, "id": 88340}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576929.924413, "message": "Those are the kinds of real problems people will be faced with...systems which are exceeded in capacity in some way.", "group_id": 95, "id": 88357}, {"user_id": 2597, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576390.6093791, "message": "I mean most of those problems involve algorithms that I've never heard before in my CS class", "group_id": 95, "id": 88341}, {"user_id": 7716, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576393.5631959, "message": "I like to think so :)", "group_id": 95, "id": 88342}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576447.9681361, "message": "It starts getting really tricky again when you get into distributed systems", "group_id": 95, "id": 88345}, {"user_id": 2597, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576470.0314291, "message": "again.. if I had a company, I'd go with that approach", "group_id": 95, "id": 88347}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297624076.592967, "user_id": 1128}, {"date_created": 1297706855.147233, "user_id": 6004}], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576870.6198919, "message": "Then I cause a problem, like \"ok now it's being hit by 10,000 a minute\"", "group_id": 95, "id": 88352}, {"user_id": 1, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297624071.986012, "user_id": 1128}], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576907.752897, "message": "etc etc.", "group_id": 95, "id": 88356}, {"user_id": 2597, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297576937.147146, "message": "that is true", "group_id": 95, "id": 88358}, {"user_id": 3531, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297577059.9349439, "message": "And for the web work, that's definitely true. If their job is going to revolve around fomr sort of development that doesn't run into large scaling issues like that, but rather minimizing a problem to fit within given specifications, then challenging puzzles may well be the question that defines a whether or not an employee is well suited.", "group_id": 95, "id": 88359}, {"user_id": 3751, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297588241.3080389, "user_id": 1}, {"date_created": 1297597250.2830639, "user_id": 8244}], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297588073.996789, "message": "@ericflo I think that's for scientists, we programmer are engineers :P and thanks for open source we got lots of solutions for tough puzzles already.", "group_id": 95, "id": 89127}, {"user_id": 8013, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297616919.7913899, "user_id": 8503}], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297592354.2280159, "message": "There's different kinds of web dev. There's what I call \"tube connecting\" which is basically writing a bunch of trivial-yet-tedious statements using a commodity CMS' API. Then there's the challenging stuff. I think every great startup hopes that it will have unprecedented scaling issues, and will want to have the kind of talent that can engineer a solution like memcache or Cassandra, that", "group_id": 95, "id": 89526}, {"user_id": 8013, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297616921.938103, "user_id": 8503}], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297592385.72227, "message": "that's why you see difficult questions that are seemingly unrelated to web dev.", "group_id": 95, "id": 89530}, {"user_id": 2597, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297615301.6845601, "message": "That makes sense now", "group_id": 95, "id": 91838}, {"user_id": 8327, "stars": [], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297615478.5195191, "message": "If web development didn't occasionally provide me with interesting and challenging puzzles, I'd go do something else", "group_id": 95, "id": 91869}, {"user_id": 4085, "stars": [{"date_created": 1297624138.616209, "user_id": 1128}], "topic_id": 4665, "date_created": 1297620528.5977781, "message": "I always thought having to do a challenge for an interview was annoying, but with one I just received a few days ago, it let me know ahead of time I wasn't qualified for the job. Better than showing up and sucking at it.", "group_id": 95, "id": 92504}]