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[{"user_id": 16271, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299560140.733804, "message": "And since it can be hard to tell online sometimes, I am completely serious about this question.  It really is something I'm wondering about...would love to hear any research or anecdotes.", "group_id": 95, "id": 293820}, {"user_id": 6661, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299560443.4748051, "message": "Hope you got your answer!", "group_id": 95, "id": 293902}, {"user_id": 6661, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299560479.6283801, "message": "Get a product, start rolling. You have a lot more to worry about than a domain name with or without vowels", "group_id": 95, "id": 293911}, {"user_id": 16271, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299560043.3165219, "message": "If only my web site were in Arabic...", "group_id": 95, "id": 293782}, {"user_id": 16271, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299561011.762779, "message": "@tuhin It seems I've been out of the game too long - I'm forgetting the lessons I was telling people 10 years ago :(  But - it's good to remember them :)", "group_id": 95, "id": 294075}, {"user_id": 6661, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299560928.8458581, "message": "Exactly my point!", "group_id": 95, "id": 294051}, {"user_id": 16271, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299560027.621155, "message": "Curious about something with the whole web 2.0 thing where all new web sites apparently shouldn't have vowels.  I may be starting something soon and I found a domain that's available that is of the unvoweled type, but I worry that people will assume the domain is the way the word is pronounced.  I'm not sure what the industry experience has been with the unvoweled approach hurting word of mouth?", "group_id": 95, "id": 293780}, {"user_id": 6661, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299560423.7707889, "message": "XKCD.com", "group_id": 95, "id": 293894}, {"user_id": 16271, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299560706.832392, "message": "@tuhin I tend to think you're right about just start it.  I remember years ago sitting in Gordon Biersch brainstorming about names for Plaxo - the point was to pick something arbitrary that didn't mean anything.  But that's different than having a real word with the vowels removed.  But I think I'll just go with it anyway.  A good product will get found.", "group_id": 95, "id": 294000}, {"user_id": 6661, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299561060.6043191, "message": ":)", "group_id": 95, "id": 294095}, {"user_id": 4212, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299564944.41961, "message": "Pretty much what @mridley said. Your company creates an image around the name over time.", "group_id": 95, "id": 294624}, {"user_id": 8668, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299576001.0362351, "message": "I think it depends on your market", "group_id": 95, "id": 295064}, {"user_id": 8668, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299576032.3706839, "message": "If you create mnysprmrkt.com for consumers to compare car insurance prices... you may be doing it wrong", "group_id": 95, "id": 295066}, {"user_id": 16361, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299613911.0543649, "message": "If it's memorable and associated with what you do it's not bad. It's short to describe the \"transformation\" and probably easy to remember. btw @tuhin, I felt xkcd succeeded because it was so awesome despite its name. You have to be more awesome if you have a less optimal name.", "group_id": 95, "id": 298900}, {"user_id": 11647, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299614820.636596, "message": "@mridley Choosing the domain is the first step towards developing a brand identity, so yes, it is very important that its consistent with your target market. Being that said, don't fret too much, even Mozilla rebranded Firefox from Firebird.", "group_id": 95, "id": 299033}, {"user_id": 8668, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299625903.562613, "message": "@mridley is \"Plaxo\" the current name?", "group_id": 95, "id": 300395}, {"user_id": 8668, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299625867.9252141, "message": "The Firebird rebranding wasn't through choice if memory serves! And XKCD is an easy initialism to remember and transmit - you'd have to spell out \"flickr\" if you told your aunt about it, but XKCD is self-describing", "group_id": 95, "id": 300390}, {"user_id": 19798, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299659222.7665811, "message": "I think there are vowels: ex-kay-sea-dee. It may depend on how long the name is and how people share it. How would they pronounce it through word of mouth?", "group_id": 95, "id": 302698}, {"user_id": 16271, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299739116.8234251, "message": "@ZoFreX Plaxo is the current name of Plaxo, but I am not going to start a new project with the name of an existing company.  That would be extra confusing.  I was just using Plaxo as an anecdote - but that discussion was in like 2001 (I think?).", "group_id": 95, "id": 311451}, {"user_id": 16271, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299739680.1212211, "message": "In any case, I just registered the domain cnctor.com (ie. connector)  Hopefully it will work out.  In any case now I need to actually build the site :-)", "group_id": 95, "id": 311474}, {"user_id": 6661, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299828553.7518201, "message": "I think the catch is that if you are going for names that are likely not to contain vowels keep them small. The longer they become the more people try to \"pronounce\" them as a word and fail miserably!", "group_id": 95, "id": 320295}, {"user_id": 6661, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299828604.786561, "message": "@mridley what about konektr, conektor, cnctr", "group_id": 95, "id": 320299}, {"user_id": 20552, "stars": [{"date_created": 1299833052.2199659, "user_id": 12775}, {"date_created": 1299855735.5372, "user_id": 20298}], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299830867.401804, "message": "Domains without vowels can definitely be catchy, though I'd personally buy the related domains with vowels if I could as well. Forward everything together, and then if someone enters the wrong thing, you're still fine.", "group_id": 95, "id": 320451}, {"user_id": 20298, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299855784.2982321, "message": "@mridley interesting", "group_id": 95, "id": 322871}, {"user_id": 9018, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299870395.7959549, "message": "I want to puch the founder of Flickr in the nose when i meet him. This is a dumb idea.\nCome up with a fake name that \"rings\" and forget buying a domain with no vowels.", "group_id": 95, "id": 325683}, {"user_id": 16271, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299892311.627311, "message": "@tuhin I wanted cnctr but it wasn't available. Anyway I'm going to put the name on the backburner for now and try to find time to actually code it. I may junk the domain I bought in the end. We'll see.", "group_id": 95, "id": 329343}, {"user_id": 16271, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299892817.348871, "message": "Also I totally agree that if the English spelling is available that's best. Just often it's not.", "group_id": 95, "id": 329379}, {"user_id": 15929, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299892645.608917, "message": "@deancollins I think it's a him and her. and I'd pay to watch (who'd miss watching a couple of millionaires getting punch?!)", "group_id": 95, "id": 329367}, {"user_id": 15929, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299892935.9970629, "message": "it's probably just me, but the thing is we have so many companies / apps with short, zippy, and catchy name. a new company with 'normal' name, like the new group messaging 'Fast Society' rings wrong...", "group_id": 95, "id": 329393}, {"user_id": 16271, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299897203.888695, "message": "@unwrangle I like fast society's name. And product.", "group_id": 95, "id": 329616}, {"user_id": 15929, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299902357.7237639, "message": "the name sounds too 'club'-ie for me, then again maybe clubers are the target market. I'm a WhatsApp kinda guy", "group_id": 95, "id": 329906}, {"user_id": 20138, "stars": [], "topic_id": 11424, "date_created": 1299992949.2623899, "message": "Yes. It's harder since no one will understand WTF you're doing.", "group_id": 95, "id": 338998}]